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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • Zam said:
    I'm not sure someone can be made exempt from forced deportation subtly which is why I feel most nominally aware Faunus would know who he is.
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    o_O

    I'm fairly certain that the Faunus Deportation War didn't happen within living memory (excluding Ozpin). The deciding factor in the most famous battle was night vision, which implies that it took place before NVG or portable electric lights were widespread. Plus, there's not nearly enough anti-faunus racism for a society that was willing to support forced deportation mere decades before; if it was that recent then it should be more like the Jim Crow era or Reconstruction South than it is.
     
    My headcanon at the moment for Leo is that his cowardice is more a result of going mad from the revelation similar to Raven in that once he learned about Salem and the wider implications she represents(after all Ozpin and her have been fighting for how long with no resolution??) He just decided to do whatever it took to survive.
     
    Zam said:
    Faunus, at least any with a remote understanding of history, hate him, 'Lionheart' may well be an insult to imply cowardice and betrayal of one's own people and thus those from the Faunus Rights Revolution, would not even be remotely surprised bu him betraying his allies, or it'd be real mild, somewhat scathing surprise.
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    Eh, I figure the term Judas Goat would be more commonly used to refer to a faunus race-traitor, considering their use in leading herd animals to the slaughter.
    Or whatever term would replace Judas in Remnant.
     
    The Narrator said:
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    I'm fairly certain that the Faunus Deportation War didn't happen within living memory (excluding Ozpin). The deciding factor in the most famous battle was night vision, which implies that it took place before NVG or portable electric lights were widespread. Plus, there's not nearly enough anti-faunus racism for a society that was willing to support forced deportation mere decades before; if it was that recent then it should be more like the Jim Crow era or Reconstruction South than it is.
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    If I recall, it was noted to take place after the Great War, based on Blake's dialogue. As to night vision, I imagine the Faunus army was less well equipped than the human one, so someone unaware of night vision would think they'd have the advantage storming them at night perhaps?

    I will never deny RT have not been great at showing the bigotry, though legalized discrimination, hundreds of Faunus deaths seemingly just being shrugged off ETC do indicate a massive degree of both legal and off the books disdain or Faunus from humanity.

    draconas said:
    Eh, I figure the term Judas Goat would be more commonly used to refer to a faunus race-traitor, considering their use in leading herd animals to the slaughter.
    Or whatever term would replace Judas in Remnant.
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    That's fair, I was mostly figuring that cos the context of the head canon, interesting idea though.

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    Speaking of goats, if I recall, Adam's horns are more like a goats than a bulls, I think I know what type of eyes he's hiding XD
     
    Barnaby said:
    I'm going to be a bit pedantic here but RT isn't, in the strictest sense of the word, actually indie. They're owned by Fullscreen, which is in turn owned by Disney. That's not entirely independant.

    But speaking about that point more broadly... I always sorta felt it was a bit condescending? Like "don't judge them, they're trying their best!" feels like it comes with a sense of cheapening or lessening how far RT has come over the years, or that they don't even deserve to be judged as an equal to any other piece of popular media.
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    While they undoubtably have more resources than they did, they're still relatively lowish on resources and produce the kind of work they did in the more indie days. They're kinda, I dunno, graduated independent? Low-budget professional? Style-wise and format wise, they really are not doing, or trying to do, the same thing as say Netflix originals or so on.

    It's hard to compare them because they do have a different budget and production model, and the results of their work show this in both good and bad ways. They have a lot of the earnestness of an indie production in their feel, and some of the flaws as well. They have a fair amount of happy accidents of unplanned stuff that works out well, and parts that don't work as well.

    They are without a doubt in a weird middle ground and I don't really know anyone else there. Anyone with a budget like theirs does different stuff, anyone who does stuff kinda like they do has a different budget.
     
    Q99 said:
    While they undoubtably have more resources than they did, they're still relatively lowish on resources and produce the kind of work they did in the more indie days. They're kinda, I dunno, graduated independent? Low-budget professional? Style-wise and format wise, they really are not doing, or trying to do, the same thing as say Netflix originals or so on.

    It's hard to compare them because they do have a different budget and production model, and the results of their work show this in both good and bad ways. They have a lot of the earnestness of an indie production in their feel, and some of the flaws as well. They have a fair amount of happy accidents of unplanned stuff that works out well, and parts that don't work as well.

    They are without a doubt in a weird middle ground and I don't really know anyone else there. Anyone with a budget like theirs does different stuff, anyone who does stuff kinda like they do has a different budget.
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    Sure, I can agree with that. But my ultimate point was that dismissing criticism because of their size isn't something people should do.

    I'll judge RWBY by it's own merits, and only that. I'm not going to put on kid gloves when talking about what I dislike about it nor give it a pat on the head when something I like happens, because it's done enough to deserve talking about like any other show.
     
    It's really hard to exist in the mid-major space RT is in, and often you survive in those spaces by having a niche product which has a hardcore base.
     
    crazyfunster said:
    I'm not sure if this stuff is appropiate for here or the gaming forum, but it's RWBY-related

    BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Director Talks About DLC Pricing - Siliconera

    This is stating that the pricing for Cross Tag Battle is going to be in line with other games total, not more.

    Now, I can't speak for Team Blue (the team that's doing the game, well the part that is)- but this is why I think we're getting things how we're getting them.

    1) The game is being made with a skeleton crew on the art side. Team Blue is also working on a Blazblue RPG. This means the folks working on this game are the fighting game design folks (who aren't needed for an RPG), 1-2 artists, and whoever has spare time (and Arcsys is pretty damn busy right now) . This means Blake will probably be rushed out a bit, and Yang won't be ready for a few more months.

    Why not release it when you're ready? Well-

    2) Arcsys makes other fighting games. The game Arcsys is most known for is Guilty Gear. Guilty Gear late this year is going to be coming out with another iteration of Revelator. GG Rev is a pretty popular series. If you released GG Rev and BBXT at the same time, they'd hurt each other saleswise.

    Why not just hold BBXT until 2019 then? Well-

    3) EVO. The world's biggest fighting game tournament, and a great platform to advertise your game. There's only so many EVO spots. This year , for example, it's supposed to be just 7 games (will likely end up 8 with a fan vote). Arcsys is getting one spot for sure with Dragonball Fighter Z, but they want that 2nd spot. Their current iteration of Blazblue is kinda old, and not overly popular. In 2019, they think their next iteration of Guilty Gear is going to get a spot. They want this game to get a spot in order to advertise it, so they gotta rush it out a bit. The late May timeframe they are releasing is just ahead of EVO's deadline for a game to be considered for EVO.

    Put all these things into consideration, and I can understand why they're doing things the way they're doing them, even if it did cause an outcry.
    Usually, passion projects like these historically among fighting games tend to be either classics (Marvel vs Capcom 2 is the best example of this), or total disasters. I'm going to bet on Mori, and well, I kinda want to play Blake and Yang some in a fighting game. (watch my skillset drive me to UNIEL characters instead- and if I get my streaming started- maybe you guys can actually watch that happen in realtime, and get a heaping dose of salt in the process!)
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    Just remember: they're just gonna re-release the game as a "Championship" edition with all the DLC you dumped money on.
     

    RWBY CHIBI: EPISODE 1 - ROAD TRIP

    This looks promising. :)

    I wonder if its just going to be a simple sketch with hijinks of if the road trip is a set up for them actually going to Haven and having the new Volume set there.


    Also there's a Nuckelavee t-shirt in the RT store now and it looks dope as fuck. Definitively buying that. :coolbeans:
     
    Mook said:

    RWBY CHIBI: EPISODE 1 - ROAD TRIP

    This looks promising. :)

    I wonder if its just going to be a simple sketch with hijinks of if the road trip is a set up for them actually going to Haven and having the new Volume set there.


    Also there's a Nuckelavee t-shirt in the RT store now and it looks dope as fuck. Definitively buying that. :coolbeans:
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    Episode 1? What? :???:
     
    Cinder's quote is the best part. Simply because I'm increasingly convinced that every volume is going to open with her more fucked up than the last. So this would still work in canon.
     
    VolantRedX said:
    Cinder's quote is the best part. Simply because I'm increasingly convinced that every volume is going to open with her more fucked up than the last. So this would still work in canon.
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    Cinder's final form is a quadruple amputee surgically attached to a giant mass of sewn-together Grimm, as is right and proper for a Final Fantasy Antagonist.

    Ruby: Why would you even do this?
    Salem: Because I could, obviously.
     
    Vindictus said:
    Cinder's final form is a quadruple amputee surgically attached to a giant mass of sewn-together Grimm, as is right and proper for a Final Fantasy Antagonist.

    Ruby: Why would you even do this?
    Salem: Because I could, obviously.
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    I assume that by the end she's so fucked up she's basically totally inhuman and tries to get Ruby to kill her but Ruby refuses out of pity and Cinder is killed some other way.
     
    ColdGoldLazarus said:

    Welp
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    I don't get where this idea that Jaune is a Mary Sue insert for Miles comes from. Jaune is barely relevant beyond basically giving Ruby some guilt over Pyrrha and has yet to do anything of note beyond healing Weiss.

    Also this person put in a lot of energy to lampoon a show they seem to hold nothing but contempt for. Good to see RWBY has hit the "only here to bitch" level of fandom. Most shows can only dream to have that level of interest.
     
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