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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • Mahrac said:
    Achillies but Jaune is the one with an invincibility related Semblance, am I?
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    When was this shown? I mean, I suppose we could assume his Semblance makes him temporarily incredibly hard to hurt sand throws back his enemies but I always just assumed that was him unleashing a burst of Aura in defence of himself.
     
    Zam said:
    When was this shown? I mean, I suppose we could assume his Semblance makes him temporarily incredibly hard to hurt sand throws back his enemies but I always just assumed that was him unleashing a burst of Aura in defence of himself.
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    I noticed it when rewatching Forever Fall 2. When Cardin tries to punch Jaune after he throws the sap, Cardin ends up hurting his own hand in addition to Jaune's injuries disappearing.
     
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    Mahrac said:
    I noticed it when rewatching Forever Fall 2. When Cardin tries to punch Jaune after he throws the sap, Cardin ends up hurting his own hand in addition to Jaune's injuries disappearing.
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    Ah I see, I always figured that was Jaune's Aura just acting as a forcefield and Cardin not bracing for someone flaring heir Aura as much as possible in defence causing him to get knocked back.
     
    Zam said:
    Ah I see, I always figured that was Jaune's Aura just acting as a forcefield and Cardin not bracing for someone flaring heir Aura as much as possible in defence causing him to get knocked back.
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    Yeah, though it's ambiguous, I don't think anything's been said about Jaune's Semblance at all.
     
    Adorable Eldritch said:
    Jaune's semblence is generic harem anime protagonist aura
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    Doesn't an anime harem require, y'know, more girls?

    Pretty sure if anyone has harem powers it will be Taiyang (I fathered children by both of my thematically opposed female teammates) Xialong.

    Jaune is just a slightly annoying flavor of generic underdog hero.
     
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    Oh goodness my mind cannot take the horror of Jaune or Tai Yang harem protagonist discussion.

    Though I have always found the "Tai Yang is a player" thing kind of odd, I mean he's seemingly had two relationships in his life, that's, not actually that impressive all things considered and yes a child was the result but he got ditched by one partner who he may never even have had an extended relationship with so I'm not sure that adds to his "harem/player" "aspect" all that much and it was with two people he was in closed quarters with for a minimum of four years. Really I'd be shocked if the majority of teams didn't end up having slight poly relationships at times.

    I actually do have a head canon for that going into the differences in Hunter VS Civilian Culture but I doubt the show will match it so I mostly leave it alone in the back of my head.
     
    Zam said:
    Though I have always found the "Tai Yang is a player" thing kind of odd, I mean he's seemingly had two relationships in his life, that's, not actually that impressive all things considered and yes a child was the result but he got ditched by one partner who he may never even have had an extended relationship with so I'm not sure that adds to his "harem/player" "aspect" all that much and it was with two people he was in closed quarters with for a minimum of four years. Really I'd be shocked if the majority of teams didn't end up having slight poly relationships at times.
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    I wasn't really being serious. I was just sort of poking fun at the Joke caption of their team photo.
     
    Zam said:
    Oh, sorry, :oops: people over on SB take the idea way more seriously than you do and it just kind of confounds me, and comes across as a little disconcerting when they really get into it.
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    I write a gigantic SAO/ZnT crossover fic that completely rejects/ignores both series' harem elements. I think it's safe to say I'm not looking for Harems anywhere. :p
     
    Triggerhappy said:
    I write a gigantic SAO/ZnT crossover fic that completely rejects/ignores both series' harem elements. I think it's safe to say I'm not looking for Harems anywhere. :p
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    You're right, sorry about the overboard reaction, its been... two weeks and a half on some of those boards but I was being unfair.

    Admiral Red said:
    Well, except Cinder's group. Because it's always <Joker>"part of the plan"</Joker>, isn't it?
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    Mostly according to plan, barring not getting 100% Maiden powers and such XD
     
    So, from what I saw of the preview, Ruby did find away around Mercury after he slapped her shit for a few seconds.
    I wonder if either....
    1. Cinder's gonna cut her off (If so, she's fucked. Utterly and totally.)
    2. Merc pulls that homing round hat trick he did with his fight against Yang to catch her.
     
    It took me a few days to work up the nerve to watch "Destiny". "Fall" was such a gut-punch that it's left me a little gun-shy on watching RWBY.

    Things I don't get:
    1) I understand Ruby getting up to go investigating when she spots Emerald, but what prompted her to go into that maintenance area?
    2) If Mercury is supposed to be laying low, being on the floating arena seems like a really lousy place for it.

    Speculations:
    1) Cinder might just want Pyrrha to win, and so might use her back door to sabotage Penny at a critical point.
    2) Cinder might want to take Pyrrha out, and so might have Penny go for the kill.
    3) Cinder might want to ramp up tensions in Vale, and might do that by making Penny look like a berserk murder-bot under Ironwood's control.
    4) Cinder might want to screw with Pyrrha's head, which might lead to other forms of messing with Penny's actions, plus Emerald's semblance at play again.
     
    deadpan29 said:
    1) I understand Ruby getting up to go investigating when she spots Emerald, but what prompted her to go into that maintenance area?
    2) If Mercury is supposed to be laying low, being on the floating arena seems like a really lousy place for it.
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    Not sure about 1, but for 2 at least it's possible that Cinder's moving her plan ahead now, with the Penny vs. Pyrrha fight. So it might not matter if Mercury's faking is revealed. It's supported by the fact that we're gonna be getting another World of Remnant after this week's episode, which generally indicates some kind of dramatic breakpoint.
     
    Speaking of the World of Remnant, the most recent entry was very interesting.

    We now know that Remnant had already tried using orbital satellites for communication, like we do today. The only reason it failed was because Dust couldn't function outside the atmosphere. An unfortunate side-effect of their primarily Dust-based technology, it seems.

    As a result, the ground-based CCTS is used instead, which I might add are more vulnerable to attack. (Just like GDI's A-SAT Control Center.)
     
    deadpan29 said:
    1) I understand Ruby getting up to go investigating when she spots Emerald, but what prompted her to go into that maintenance area?
    2) If Mercury is supposed to be laying low, being on the floating arena seems like a really lousy place for it.
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    I share your confusion on point 1, I'm thinking she may have been trying to sneak out of the stadium or to some particular person in the hopes of Emerald not noticing her and or sneaking up on Emerald herself.
    On point 2 Mat the Mamoth Rider actually made a fairly strong argument for the tunnels to be a decent place to hide, especially considering Cinder's virus gives her lots of power over the stadium so he may have just been there in case they needed a little extra muscle, is only revealing himself because of Ruby and possibly because, in his own words "show time" things are about to hit the fan.
     
    Mahrac said:
    I noticed it when rewatching Forever Fall 2. When Cardin tries to punch Jaune after he throws the sap, Cardin ends up hurting his own hand in addition to Jaune's injuries disappearing.
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    I just occurred to me that Invulnerability, within limits, is a boring but useful semblance. Just like Jaun is shaping up to be a boring but competent fighter. :p
     
    So, dust, despite being highly devastating and efficient in other fields, shows disadvantages to conventional fuel sources.
    Interesting.
    I wonder if they have anything akin to Atomic or Nuclear energy sources? I doubt it due to they way they focus on defenses more than offensive capability (and Nukes are very much an offensive weapon in almost every circumstance), but with Atlas' technology, it's not too far-fetched.
     
    NuclearNickel said:
    I wonder if they have anything akin to Atomic or Nuclear energy sources? I doubt it due to they way they focus on defenses more than offensive capability (and Nukes are very much an offensive weapon in almost every circumstance), but with Atlas' technology, it's not too far-fetched.
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    I maintain a belief that someone like Atlas has a couple Dust boosted nuclear weapons lying around, or some sort of equivalent. I mean, if they could develop laser cannons then they have no excuse, especially in a world with Aura, to develop high explosives.
     
    So... Theory time as I just had a scene concept that I probably won't write but that expanded on an idea I had ages back. Essentially Cinder, or the person we know as Cinder was once a relatively normal, or maybe some specially prepared vessel, but in either case she was a nominally innocent individual and a child when the creepy crawly beetle Grim we saw burst out of her hand and its associates basically took over her body.

    That is to say since childhood she's essentially been an unwilling puppet to the Grim equivalent of Yerks, evolved and developed in order to claim the magic of the Maidens and to parrot the Aura and Dust abilities of Hunters. The WoR said new types were being discovered all the time and that individual Grim evolve through time, maybe some grow down into somehting horrible and subtle.

    The idea ended with it abandoning a defeated Cinder for a new vessel and Cinder basically being a highly traumatised child/teenager in mind who's been trapped as a passenger in their own body for somehting like ten or twenty years.

    Unlikely to be canon but an interesting, I hope, if grim idea. In hindsight the concept may have been inspired by a Doctor Who villain who was used by the Supreme Intelligence only for its influence to leave her and she be left as she was when it found it, a six year old in mind... Dang I've gone and made myself sad.
     
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