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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • Pensive Rumination said:
    It time for that wonderful game GUESS THAT CHARACTER!!

    So we've all now seen Neo. Pretty sure everyone first though Martix!Neo, but that doesn't feel quite right for some reason to me.

    Anyone else want to give a shot as to who she's based on? Mary Poppins? Alice?
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    Not enough personality to say yet, but the heterchromatic eyes and hair . . . Jekyll and Hyde? (Probably not though)
     
    This week: Roman continues his track record of being the most criminally stupid villain ever.

    Seriously, he gives me headaches over the amount of mistakes he makes.

    We already know he's failed to keep the fact that he's, well, a criminal from the public, which should make running a covert operation hard for him. Luckily the police are as lax as ever.

    Makes transactions that can be tracked back to him, gives his real name (though it would be impressive if he was operating under a pseudonym the whole time, but I wouldn't give the writers enough credit to do that), chases after two people with a FRICKIN mech in public ALONE BY HIMSELF AND WITH NO BACKUP. Seriously, he could have sent the White Fang to do his dirty work.

    And of course he doesn't look behind when he's operating the mech.

    Also, a plus to the Schnee Dust Company for scamming Atlas by making the Paladin with LEGO construction guides and Superglue.

    Aaaand Yang is Lung.

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    Anyone else want to give a shot as to who she's based on? Mary Poppins? Alice?
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    Mary Sue. /joke but seriously her character design screams "fanon"
     
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    jwolfe_beta said:
    The thing was going up against some of the best huntresses in their year, they cut it's viability before Weiss took out what looked like the main camera and I doubt Roman really trained a huge amount in using the things.
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    I'm not saying the outcome was implausible, in-universe. I'm saying the scene didn't have much tension. If the main characters are such badasses that a giant robot can't pose a credible threat, then the author shouldn't be using the giant robot as the primary threat of the episode.
     
    beleester said:
    I'm not saying the outcome was implausible, in-universe. I'm saying the scene didn't have much tension. If the main characters are such badasses that a giant robot can't pose a credible threat, then the author shouldn't be using the giant robot as the primary threat of the episode.
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    Ah, but that mech wasn't supposed to be acting solo. I get the idea the things are supposed to be acting in small groups while those robots act as disposable infantry.

    Those battlesuits aren't hero-killers, they're made to turn squishy soldiers into elite mooks.
     
    jwolfe_beta said:
    Those battlesuits aren't hero-killers, they're made to turn squishy soldiers into elite mooks.
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    Also, Roman isn't exactly a highly trained pilot and was taking four to one odds. Admittedly against trainees, but still Huntresses.

    One on one, I think his odds would have been a hell of a lot better.
     
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    jwolfe_beta said:
    Ah, but that mech wasn't supposed to be acting solo. I get the idea the things are supposed to be acting in small groups while those robots act as disposable infantry.

    Those battlesuits aren't hero-killers, they're made to turn squishy soldiers into elite mooks.
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    But the author wrote it acting solo. There's no reason he couldn't have had some disposable mooks following on motorcycles, or had more fighting in the chase scene before the heroes arrived, or have him interrupt one of the attacks, or something.

    I'm not saying the heroes couldn't kill the mech easily once they got their act together. I'm saying that Roman should have been given a chance to show off his big stompy robot before then so that it would be more satisfying when the heroes killed it.
     
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    I'm really getting tired of people criticizing the fight scenes.

    They are absolutely epic. The speed, the kinaesthetics, the elaboration, the imagination and the spectacle of them are just amazing.

    Could they be better? Sure, but only in the sense that perfection is unattainable; as they are they're the best fights in the business! The only things that come close to this amount of sheer awesome are a select few anime movies and hollywood blockbusters; and we're getting these things very other episode.

    Why did Torchwick attack alone? Because that's what the fight scene called for. It posed a reasonable challenge, and highlighted both the abilities some characters already possess and the amount of growth RWBY has experienced from their last teamfight against a giant boss monster. And it looked awesome.

    Mission accomplished.
     
    ShirowShirow said:
    I'm really getting tired of people criticizing the fight scenes.

    They are absolutely epic. The speed, the kinaesthetics, the elaboration, the imagination and the spectacle of them are just amazing.

    Could they be better? Sure, but only in the sense that perfection is unattainable; as they are they're the best fights in the business! The only things that come close to this amount of sheer awesome are a select few anime movies and hollywood blockbusters; and we're getting these things very other episode.

    Why did Torchwick attack alone? Because that's what the fight scene called for. It posed a reasonable challenge, and highlighted both the abilities some characters already possess and the amount of growth RWBY has experienced from their last teamfight against a giant boss monster. And it looked awesome.

    Mission accomplished.
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    yeah. Last time Team RWBY fought as a team, they decapitated a Giant Fuck Off Raven. Which according to their boar game is an Army killer
     
    Jcogginsa said:
    yeah. Last time Team RWBY fought as a team, they decapitated a Giant Fuck Off Raven. Which according to their boar game is an Army killer
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    At the end of the day we can't look at team RWBY (and likely NPR) as the average range of capabilities for combatants in Reminant. They are one man/woman armies as long as their aura holds out.
     
    Every day I grow more and more convinced people as a whole are finding it harder to separate Watsonian and Doylist points of view. :p
     
    beleester said:
    But the author wrote it acting solo. There's no reason he couldn't have had some disposable mooks following on motorcycles, or had more fighting in the chase scene before the heroes arrived, or have him interrupt one of the attacks, or something.

    I'm not saying the heroes couldn't kill the mech easily once they got their act together. I'm saying that Roman should have been given a chance to show off his big stompy robot before then so that it would be more satisfying when the heroes killed it.
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    If Roman were a much, much more capable character he would have probably been a legitimate threat and perhaps even won. As it stands, the writers decided to give him a low IQ and make him act like a typical cartoon villain.

    ShirowShirow said:
    I'm really getting tired of people criticizing the fight scenes.

    They are absolutely epic. The speed, the kinaesthetics, the elaboration, the imagination and the spectacle of them are just amazing.

    Could they be better?
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    YES.

    I bring you a better highway scene, courtesy of Red vs. Blue. Starting at 1:27.

     
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    The ice cream thing is not wrong. A little bit before Volume 2 aired, Monty made several cryptic tweets that were just photos of a certain thing, and just that thing, in a row. For instance he did it with Yatsuhashi, the last unnamed member of team, by tweeting images of the Japanese sweets of the same name. And shortly after, he began tweeting images of Neapolitan ice cream...

    Anyway, loved this episode, definitely liking Volume 2 so far, and I look forward to what comes next.
     
    Caustic said:
    If Roman were a much, much more capable character he would have probably been a legitimate threat and perhaps even won. As it stands, the writers decided to give him a low IQ and make him act like a typical cartoon villain.



    YES.

    I bring you a better highway scene, courtesy of Red vs. Blue. Starting at 1:27.

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    I knew the highway fight scene looked familiar! It's like they just copy pasted a few shots and changed the background.
     
    Triggerhappy said:
    Also, Roman isn't exactly a highly trained pilot and was taking four to one odds. Admittedly against trainees, but still Huntresses.

    One on one, I think his odds would have been a hell of a lot better.
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    And originally he was just chasing two people, if Yang and Neptune hadn't just happened to be close by Blake and Sun would probably have been toast.

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    beleester said:
    I'm not saying the outcome was implausible, in-universe. I'm saying the scene didn't have much tension. If the main characters are such badasses that a giant robot can't pose a credible threat, then the author shouldn't be using the giant robot as the primary threat of the episode.
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    You're not really getting the point of the giant robot. It was a fakeout, it showed up a lot in the trailers being scary and stompy so that we would assume that it was a mid season boss like the Deathstalker/Nevermore. It gave us an action packed trailer without really revealing anything important about this season so now we basically have no clue whats going to happen aside from Phyrra fighting Cardin's team for some reason and that Cinder has a plan that we have no clue what is. And some Beowolves will roam the streets but with how deceptive the trailer turned out to be we have no clue what that actually means, it could be a part of the festival like Lindblum's hunting festival in Final Fantasy 9 for all we know.
     
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    Anyone else notice they seem to be doing everything possible to make Sun into the most blatant expy of the show?
    I mean he's called Sun Wukong, he's got blond hair, he's a prankster/trickster/happy-go-lucky guy, he's got a monkey tail, he's got an awesome fighting staff, and he makes clones of himself to help fight!
     
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