Did you read the part of my post where I pointed out that he's already mentioned significant points about later seasons?
I'm not judging RWBY on what it did seven years ago. Sienna Khan wasn't seven years ago. The shitty handling of the White Fang wasn't seven years ago. The main plot of the story only being revealed in Volume 4 wasn't seven years ago. Ilia wasn't seven years ago. Menagerie wasn't seven years ago.
I'm still only about 40 minutes into the review, but I'm pretty certain at this point that it's not just going to judge RWBY off of what it was at the beginning. Also, just because a show grew doesn't mean the early parts aren't worthy of criticism, and frankly I wouldn't expect him to go "but the fanbase has talked about this stuff enough already so i won't bother" when media analysis is the entire point of what he does. The early seasons still exist. You still have to watch them to watch the rest of the show as it's intended. They didn't stop existing because the show got better.
Mentioned and reviewed are not the same thing.
His review only goes up to the end of V3 and has some brief forward cuts to discuss the Faunus plot-line. Also... Oh gosh you're one of those people who hates Ilia aren't you?
Literally everything he complains about could be put into a list format and covered in about fifteen minutes, this is a waste of time.
He says he watched the video which would be a primary source. Because that is what we are talking about aren't we?
Then my sources are primary sources too?
I mean honestly One Piece didn't partially sell itself on the promise of queer rep like RWBY started doing later on and it didn't start off with "there's a horrible systematic racism problem that informs the entire story and world that it takes place in" while making that racism story a core part of the plot going forward until like, Volume 6. I think it's perfectly normal for RWBY to catch more flak for it since it's way more accessible than One Piece and slaps you in the face with the problematic shit from Season 1 while One Piece waits until like, Alabastra to introduce Bon Clay and get skeevy.
You're making a lot of salacious and also very strange claims here with no actual backing. Also the Faunus plotline... Isn't the entire story? like, you do know that Salem is the main plot right now, right? This is apparently something else he did, conflating Blake's plot as being the main plot when she's, you know, one of our main characters in an ensemble cast series. I mean Nami's boobs growing constantly for fanservice sounds way skeevier and shittier than anything I've seen RWBY do.
Ok, it's been a while since I watched the show, but didn't all this happen after volume 3 ? Because I was specifically talking bout the end of voulme 3.
Oh, sorry, well in that case hes still a bad strategist who backstabbed Ozpin and ignored a disaster in motion to try and cover his own ass with Ozpin about Penny, he wasn't as bad then, but that's cos he wasn't as a major of a figure in a place where he had near absolute draconian control so he could only do so much damage.
- That's not what I got out of his argument. And, as he stated, he didn't intend for this video to cover the entire show, just the first 3 volumes (I think he said he was considering doing another video for the other ones).
- When he talked about Monty ghosting Miles and Kerry for a while and then coming back with brand new story ideas and characters that they then had to integrate into the show.
- Them being involved in romantic plotlines with the main characters.
- Indeed, and I never said that. I merely explained why I like this style, and said I was perfectly fine with people not liking it.
Dear goodness please no, if I have to hear again how you can't do dynamic action on a moving train I think I'll cry.
Fair enough, that got added after he took the video down as it wasn't in the original cut, though given he didn't readjust the rest of the video it sounds like a very minor admission despite Monty's heavy influence on the writing and him blaming Miles & Kerry for basically everything.
They weren't though, Jaune was consistently rejected & nothing came of it, and Mercury managed to get one dance with Wess before being dumped & was a butt monkey both before and after that. Plus if you're gonna accuse them of that, then by that logic Ren was Monty Oum's self insert so he could date Nora, but homberguy didn't say that cos it'd ruin his narrative.
Fair enough.
As I said, I can see why people are frustrated with the unfair and hateful criticism, but hbomberguy isn't part of the bigoted hatedom who whined about Adam's death and hates women, or the hypocrites who deny that the shows they like have similar issues to RWBY. and acting like.
As for the Patreon thing... look, no offense intended, but you're pretty obviously biased here. You're angry at hbomb for alledgedly wrongfully banning you (something which we can't verify due to you not providing any proof but that you apparently expects us to believe anyway) and for criticizing a show you like. The people who you quote to justify your point of view also seem pretty biased given how they focus on minor issues like the train thing and don't address the important points of the video. There are a lot of people who watched the video and found it good, which doesn't mean it is good, but some people thinking it's bad doesn't mean it's bad either.
And frankly you're the one going "thing bad" here. Hbomberguy made a video where he discusses both what he thinks are positives and negatives about RWBY without at any point being insulting towards the fans of the show, and you're just shitting all over it and being rude to people who liked it, including fellow RWBY fans.
He knew fullwell said people would be gleefully weaponizing his video to harass people, his own producer admitted it and basically said "We've taken it into consideration" which is effectively meaningless & just cos he's left leaning doesn't mean he doesn't have subconscious issues with women, his treatment of his own staff indicates there are some issues there.
I would except once your banned you can't access Patreon posts :/ Also, OK hold up, why is Hbomberguy being treated as some unbiased source in this, he went to lengths to say how much he dislikes the show going into this review, why are his views not being dismissed as biased, but those who like the show pointing out literal research failures on his part are being dismissed for bias?
His entire video is being rude to people who like RWBY and people keep coming onto a RWBY thread saying how great it is, forgive me for not enjoying a veritable invasion of insults.
We're not judging the entire show on the first 3 volumes, we're judging the first 3 volumes. Well, apparently some of his criticism is still relevant in later volumes, but I can't exactly judge if that's true or not since I stopped following the show at the end of volume 3 (I did watch a few eps from later volumes, and they didn't gave me any sense of true amelioration). But the main point of this video was to criticize the first 3 volumes (I think he said he might do another video covering the other ones).
And we're not asking you to believe us, we're asking you to either go watch the video in order to criticize it as a whole, or stop criticizing it based on hearsay and biased criticism.
He literally says the people working on RWBY are wasting their talents, currently, he's judging the whole show. Also I ask again, why are you here if you don't watch the show, why not talk about how clever Hbomberguy is for having the same problems you had with it in the youtube comments section of his video rather than getting into an argument defending his video on a forum channel you have no reason to use.
I'm not wasting several hours of my life on something I think is trash, if only hobomberguy had the maturity to do the same and move on with his life.
Why are you using scare quotes, when you did, in fact, use fallacies such as ad hominem (all the unecessary insults), cherry picking (he got this small detail wrong), appeal to the stone, red herrings...
Need I go on?
Now you know what you talking about hbomberguy feels like
Throwing a bunch of jargon in place of an argument does not a compelling point make, also nice way to cover admitting I was right, even if it was rather back handed.
Save I did watch some of his video, watched it being made, watched his conversations about it and also have the word of people who did watch it, which means I did more research than he evidently did given he thinks trains shouldn't exist in Mountain Glenn,.
