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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • I decided to take a look at this RWBY thing, since I have seen it being mentioned often.
    Watched two episodes, still not hooked.
    So, at which point did you get hooked, and what exactly made you a fan of RWBY?
    (Just so I know how far I should watch.)
     
    Starfield said:
    I decided to take a look at this RWBY thing, since I have seen it being mentioned often.
    Watched two episodes, still not hooked.
    So, at which point did you get hooked, and what exactly made you a fan of RWBY?
    (Just so I know how far I should watch.)
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    Episode 8 was what really hooked me in. The big, climactic fight scenes are absolutely phenomenal, and the characters, plot and production values are all growing steadily.
     
    Starfield said:
    I decided to take a look at this RWBY thing, since I have seen it being mentioned often.
    Watched two episodes, still not hooked.
    So, at which point did you get hooked, and what exactly made you a fan of RWBY?
    (Just so I know how far I should watch.)
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    Leingod's had a good spot to keep in my eyes, though I confess I was more or less hooked by the trailers alone and was just sort of up and slightly higher up in terms of enjoyment for most of early RWBY so I never really had a 'it's grabbed me' stage barring the trailers. What sort of shows do you normally watch and what do you look for in them?
     
    Zam said:
    What sort of shows do you normally watch and what do you look for in them?
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    I usually read more fanfiction than watch shows. The few that I have watched and enjoyed during the recent years includes Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, Girls und Panzer and the first two seasons of MLP:FiM.
    Naruto, FS/N, Evangelion, Ranma, Slayers and Sailor Moon are titles that I have enjoyed fanfiction about. (There are other too, but in those cases it's more despite the setting.)

    The characters is usually the reason I watch a show/read a story. There are certain character types that I find especially interesting, either confident ones, tsunderes or the tall, dark and bishoujo types. (Interesting concepts is also something that attract my attention, but that is more hard to define and fuzzy.)

    As for Ruby, I liked her at first, but then something about her rubbed me the wrong way.
     
    Starfield said:
    I usually read more fanfiction than watch shows. The few that I have watched and enjoyed during the recent years includes Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, Girls und Panzer and the first two seasons of MLP:FiM.
    Naruto, FS/N, Evangelion, Ranma, Slayers and Sailor Moon are titles that I have enjoyed fanfiction about. (There are other too, but in those cases it's more despite the setting.)

    The characters is usually the reason I watch a show/read a story. There are certain character types that I find especially interesting, either confident ones, tsunderes or the tall, dark and bishoujo types. (Interesting concepts is also something that attract my attention, but that is more hard to define and fuzzy.)

    As for Ruby, I liked her at first, but then something about her rubbed me the wrong way.
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    I will admit there have been instances where I read more than I absorb the original material so I sympathize.
    I've liked some of those series as well, and much like you in many cases more in fanfic than in canon.

    Well Weiss is a bit of a Tsundere and Blake is dark and bishoujo, not so tall though; it's a shame to hear that, I quite like Ruby myself. A bit of an issue for RWBY is time, they have a limited length for the seasons,more so than most shows and thus end up focussing on certain aspects they deem important, I tend to feel season 1 is weaker in it's second half because if focussed on Jaune while leaving little for Yang to do and Blake only getting involved at the end, though it was quite intense when she and Weiss had their (spoilers)
     
    Zam said:
    Kind of curious now, what's the right type in this context? Barring Tsundere and aloof elder sibling I tend to not use such terms for character types.
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    *about genki*
    Well, I kind of like Usagi Tsukino, and her let's be friends type of genki, but it might be because I'm mostly exposed to her in written media.
    Ruby on the other hand went full fangirl.
     
    Starfield said:
    *about genki*
    Well, I kind of like Usagi Tsukino, and her let's be friends type of genki, but it might be because I'm mostly exposed to her in written media.
    Ruby on the other hand went full fangirl.
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    I see, well that's really only in the first episode or two, she drops the 'fangirl' aspect after that from memory unless we're talking about something different.
     
    Starfield said:
    Something like that, but I didn't watch the trailers, and more specifically the wrong sort of genki.
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    You should watch the trailers. They're not so much teasers as they are prequel episodes that establish the characters' backgrounds (except maybe Ruby's trailer, since that was the earliest and they hadn't nailed down the story yet).

    The trailers' contents are all original and some of the events that take place in them have been referenced in main series episodes. Many people even like the trailers more than most episodes. (Monty did work on each trailer mostly singlehandedly over the course of months, while episodes are mostly team collaborations that take weeks.)

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    Character Trailers:
    - (Rooster Teeth, YouTube) RWBY "Red" Trailer
    - (Rooster Teeth, YouTube) RWBY "White" Trailer
    - (Rooster Teeth, YouTube) RWBY "Black" Trailer
    - (Rooster Teeth, YouTube) RWBY "Yellow" Trailer
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    Well, I have now watched the trailers, and up to episode 7. I would say that episode 4 was when the series got my interest. As for favorite characters, so far Yang, Pyrrha and Ren, I need to see more of the rest. Especially Blake, since at this point the majority of her screen time was in her trailer.
     
    Starfield said:
    Well, I have now watched the trailers, and up to episode 7. I would say that episode 4 was when the series got my interest. As for favorite characters, so far Yang, Pyrrha and Ren, I need to see more of the rest. Especially Blake, since at this point the majority of her screen time was in her trailer.
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    Blake is mostly front and centre during the season finale but get's more screen time and plot focus in S2.
     
    Zam said:
    Blake is mostly front and centre during the season finale but get's more screen time and plot focus in S2.
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    So far the one who gets the short end of the stick is Yang, except a little backstory telling in season 2, she's pretty much confined to a supportive role, although the stinger of season 2's finale might hint that S3 will be her time to be under the spotlights.
     
    ElMariachi said:
    So far the one who gets the short end of the stick is Yang, except a little backstory telling in season 2, she's pretty much confined to a supportive role, although the stinger of season 2's finale might hint that S3 will be her time to be under the spotlights.
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    I certainly hope she gets more attention, at this point Jaune still seems to get way more focus than some members of RWBY.
     
    Zam said:
    I certainly hope she gets more attention, at this point Jaune still seems to get way more focus than some members of RWBY.
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    More focus than most of team RWBY members you mean, because except Ruby herself (with whom he almost shares as much attention from the plot) all the other members are left behind.
    That attention to Jaune at the expense of the rest of team RWBY and even team JNPR was even the most common complaint about the first two seasons.
     
    ElMariachi said:
    More focus than most of team RWBY members you mean, because except Ruby herself (with whom he almost shares as much attention from the plot) all the other members are left behind.
    That attention to Jaune at the expense of the rest of team RWBY and even team JNPR was even the most common complaint about the first two seasons.
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    Honestly Ruby doesn't seem to get too much attention either, at least in terms of involvement in the plot.
    It's certainly my biggest complaint, that and shipping stuff in general, like at all. Thing is I only see that criticized in a few places, when I first signed up to SB Jaune was generally ardently defended and places that did criticize him often seemed to get metaphorically mocked and insulted with those who did so being dismissed as 'idiot tumblrites/femanazis/man haters' ETC.
     
    To be honest, shipping is mostly in the fans' head with the occasional little nod from the RT crew when they use ship names for the combination attacks. In the show proper the only real shippings are either crushes that so far lead nowhere (Weiss/Neptune) or hilariously one-sided (Jaune toward Weiss, Pyrrha toward Jaune), Yang and Blake are too busy with their respective problems to think about romantic relationships and Ruby is just plain not interested in romantic relationships so far.

    I don't know if when you joined it was still season 1, but from what I understood, in season 1 there wasn't that much problems with Jaune taking screentime since it's clear that RT want to make him a deuteragonist to Ruby and also use him as audience surrogate to learn about Aura, Semblance and other aspects of the lore, but the biggest complains happened when he took away the spotlight again during a few episodes of season 2, all to talk about the same problems he had in season 1, namely his lack of confidence.
     
    ElMariachi said:
    To be honest, shipping is mostly in the fans' head with the occasional little nod from the RT crew when they use ship names for the combination attacks. In the show proper the only real shippings are either crushes that so far lead nowhere (Weiss/Neptune) or hilariously one-sided (Jaune toward Weiss, Pyrrha toward Jaune), Yang and Blake are too busy with their respective problems to think about romantic relationships and Ruby is just plain not interested in romantic relationships so far.

    I don't know if when you joined it was still season 1, but from what I understood, in season 1 there wasn't that much problems with Jaune taking screentime since it's clear that RT want to make him a deuteragonist to Ruby and also use him as audience surrogate to learn about Aura, Semblance and other aspects of the lore, but the biggest complains happened when he took away the spotlight again during a few episodes of season 2, all to talk about the same problems he had in season 1, namely his lack of confidence.
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    Sun/Blake, Weiss/Neptune Jaune/Pyrrha all seem to be going places, the middle one maybe not, but honestly I wish they'd just not include romance at all and focus on developing the people as individuals and teams along with the plot. I think you'll find I have rather... different opinions on Jaune's borderline stalking of Weiss as well I'm afraid.

    I sort of was, though I was less connected to the fandom, I was more tolerant of him in S1, though the moment I saw him I more or less threw up my hands and said 'here's the audience surrogate who fanfic writers and artists will turn into a harem master and eat up screen time'. Honestly given the series is named RWBY, I feel Jaune shouldn't play such a role at all if it's at the expense of the rest of the cast, especially when the exposition could have been delivered other ways, but that's just me. I heard they only decided to give him so much focus later but I can't guarantee that one.
     
    Zam said:
    Sun/Blake, Weiss/Neptune Jaune/Pyrrha all seem to be going places, the middle one maybe not, but honestly I wish they'd just not include romance at all and focus on developing the people as individuals and teams along with the plot. I think you'll find I have rather... different opinions on Jaune's borderline stalking of Weiss as well I'm afraid.

    I sort of was, though I was less connected to the fandom, I was more tolerant of him in S1, though the moment I saw him I more or less threw up my hands and said 'here's the audience surrogate who fanfic writers and artists will turn into a harem master and eat up screen time'. Honestly given the series is named RWBY, I feel Jaune shouldn't play such a role at all if it's at the expense of the rest of the cast, especially when the exposition could have been delivered other ways, but that's just me. I heard they only decided to give him so much focus later but I can't guarantee that one.
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    My two cents, but I get the feeling that Jaune kind of get a pass for his borderline stalking of Weiss because it was made clear that he's a good guy who will never go too far, and that in the case that he does step out of the line (in which case it will probably be unintentionally) Weiss have the strength and willingness to put him back in his place.

    For Sun/Blake, honestly for me so far I've only seen two companions that met and hang together due to their similarities : being Faunus of course, but also the willingness to break the law to reach their goals if the need arises, which also made it so none of them will judge the other for their past actions.
    In a way, I see it very similar to Ruby and Jaune's friendship born from their shared dorkiness and burden of being team leader. But again, that's my opinion.
     
    ElMariachi said:
    My two cents, but I get the feeling that Jaune kind of get a pass for his borderline stalking of Weiss because it was made clear that he's a good guy who will never go too far, and that in the case that he does step out of the line (in which case it will probably be unintentionally) Weiss have the strength and willingness to put him back in his place.
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    While I can follow your rationale I can't really agree if only because his constant refusal of the word no tells me he didn't quit when he should have. Plus, remember their meeting in the locker room, he immediately invaded her personal space, clearly disturbing and worrying Weiss and kept pushing until Pyrrha skewered him.

    ElMariachi said:
    For Sun/Blake, honestly for me so far I've only seen two companions that met and hang together due to their similarities : being Faunus of course, but also the willingness to break the law to reach their goals if the need arises, which also made it so none of them will judge the other for their past actions.
    In a way, I see it very similar to Ruby and Jaune's friendship born from their shared dorkiness and burden of being team leader. But again, that's my opinion.
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    To be fair Sun could buddy up with Yang over the law one XD I like your logic here, but I feel Sun at least is pretty much angling for a relationship and while I like his character and attitude well enough, eh, honestly it always feels like just pairing up the Faunus because they're Faunus, sort of like the RWBY equivalent of pairing the first two dwarven adventurers seen together.
     
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