RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
 
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On the night vision thing.

While Blake can see in the dark, its still liable to be easier to see in a brightly lit room where there's a variety of colors, shades, ETC.

That is to say, Ilia can blend in more easily in the darkness than she can in a bright area so while Blake can 'see' she's still going to struggle ot see her more.
Plus Illia is camouflaged. It'd be hard to see her with the lights on, much less in darkness.
 
Plus Illia is camouflaged. It'd be hard to see her with the lights on, much less in darkness.

Totally. It's not just that it's dark, it's that *she's dark* in the dark.



I like how the crowd was confused about Ilia coming over too, 'Wait, isn't she the White Fang girl?'. I also dug how the 'we could use your talents!' guy Sun tried to recruit was next, and one of the fish faunas.
 
Yea, being creator and choreographer in one was a really unique situation. I wish the teams would tune things up a bit more on the smaller fights, but I also get the difference in workflow.


-Blake takes objection to that idea and pulls her dad out with Gambol Shroud's ribbon, leaving Dumb Twin to his well earned crushing death.-

Here's a thought- I'm not 100% sure if crushing alone would kill him, depending on how strong his aura is...

.... but the dust in his weapons exploded. Dead.
I mean, there's also the bit where the police ask about him, Ghira's like "lolnope that fucker dead," and the police rub it in his brother's face with the whole "Was it worth it?" comment.

So, yeah. Dude is so dead.
 
I like how the local militant White Fang sect had enough people to give a good go of it, but really not a lot to spare- just a couple of the police would've made things so much harder on them, and they only had a few good fighters.
 
I like how the local militant White Fang sect had enough people to give a good go of it, but really not a lot to spare- just a couple of the police would've made things so much harder on them, and they only had a few good fighters.
Some part of me wonders if that was just those 'in the know' or if that really was all the WF on the island. But yeah, either way, it was a close thing no matter what.
 
I like how the local militant White Fang sect had enough people to give a good go of it, but really not a lot to spare- just a couple of the police would've made things so much harder on them, and they only had a few good fighters. It says they're dangerous, but they can hardly take over.
 
I do think that Blake has forgiven Illia a bit too quickly. She was complicit in attempting to kill Blake's family, which isn't something I'd expect Blake to just brush off.

Also, that was quite tense. While it was obvious that Blake will survive, I was honestly worried about her parents over there.

Now all we need is for Sun to die and the yuri shipping will have a chance :V
 
I do think that Blake has forgiven Illia a bit too quickly. She was complicit in attempting to kill Blake's family, which isn't something I'd expect Blake to just brush off.

Also, that was quite tense. While it was obvious that Blake will survive, I was honestly worried about her parents over there.

Now all we need is for Sun to die and the yuri shipping will have a chance :V

It helps that she both knew Illia, was there to turn her, and Illia did turn coat in time.

And we don't need Sun to die, there's plenty of fun shipping for him!
 
It helps that she both knew Illia, was there to turn her, and Illia did turn coat in time.

And we don't need Sun to die, there's plenty of fun shipping for him!
Well, I do think that currently Sun/Blake is the strongest ship, and sinking it won't be easy.

Though maybe it would be possible to ship Illia with another character, instead.

Illia x Weiss sounds hilarious. It will probably give Weiss's dad aneurism :V
 
Well, I do think that currently Sun/Blake is the strongest ship, and sinking it won't be easy.

Though maybe it would be possible to ship Illia with another character, instead.

Illia x Weiss sounds hilarious. It will probably give Weiss's dad aneurism :V

Nah, Sun x Kali!

Yang's another contender for Blake's heart.

Illia x Weiss would be fun...
 
I do think that Blake has forgiven Illia a bit too quickly. She was complicit in attempting to kill Blake's family, which isn't something I'd expect Blake to just brush off.

Also, that was quite tense. While it was obvious that Blake will survive, I was honestly worried about her parents over there.

Now all we need is for Sun to die and the yuri shipping will have a chance :V
What to do when someone spills gasoline and you're holding matches .. decisions, decisions ..
I thought one of the oldest 'ships in RWBY was Bumblebee. Look at Yang "saving a dance" for Blake after going well out of her way to cheer her up during Volume 2.
 
I can see why people might think Blake forgave Ilia too quickly.

I think a big part of it is that she could see this was tearing Ilia apart which helps and knew it wasn't her idea, IE, she was being manipulated/exploited by the brothers and Adam, yes they didn't technically lie to her (Though I doubt she knows Adam was abusive) but they took advantage of her issues and fears to use her which would garner Blake's sympathy.

Additionally, Blake herself likely has guilt about stuff she did in the WF but knows that doesn't define her and wants to give the same benefit of the doubt to Ilia, possibly encouraged further by her own teams acceptance of her back in the day.

Also someone made a neat analyse about how Blake regards Yang a strength and Ghira said it takes strength to forgive, I wonder if that was intentional.
 
It certainly helps that Blake herself was manipulated by the exact same arguments. That, and Illia *almost* did something bad, but didn't. She stabbed Sun and fought Blake and was really, really pushing the line there by participating in the attack, but... she stopped. No-one Blake cared about died, and Blake was unheart, and Sun is the type to totally shrug off stuff like stabbings.


What to do when someone spills gasoline and you're holding matches .. decisions, decisions ..
I thought one of the oldest 'ships in RWBY was Bumblebee. Look at Yang "saving a dance" for Blake after going well out of her way to cheer her up during Volume 2.

Yep. And now Blake is taking Illia to Haven to meet Yang. This... will be interesting! We will rarely have such a concentration of ships.

Hm... I think Ghira's going with them, but I wonder if Kali will stay behind to rule Menagerie.
 
Hm... I think Ghira's going with them, but I wonder if Kali will stay behind to rule Menagerie.
I don't think the role of chieftain works like that, given what we know of Remnant, and even the White Fang's leadership and Ghira's past I'd assume its a democratic position, or perhaps appointed.
 
I don't think the role of chieftain works like that, given what we know of Remnant, and even the White Fang's leadership and Ghira's past I'd assume its a democratic position, or perhaps appointed.

I don't know how it works, but even if democratic/appointed, then she can serve as a proxy while he's in Haven.
 
I don't know how it works, but even if democratic/appointed, then she can serve as a proxy while he's in Haven.
I'm not sure she could, but that would depend on how its set up, personally I was hoping she'd be the one going to Have if there had to be a pick between the two XD
 
I'm not sure she could, but that would depend on how its set up, personally I was hoping she'd be the one going to Have if there had to be a pick between the two XD

He's kinda the fighter of the two ^^ And I'm basically assume she's somewhat involved in politics to begin with, and she'd certainly be a well-known face in Menagerie that people'd listen to. There's certainly going to be some mechanism for how things are done when Ghira's away, and considering we haven't really seen anyone else, and Kali being present during Ghira's public speeches, I suspect there's not some other person. Plus it's just not *that* big of a town.
 
He's kinda the fighter of the two ^^ And I'm basically assume she's somewhat involved in politics to begin with, and she'd certainly be a well-known face in Menagerie that people'd listen to. There's certainly going to be some mechanism for how things are done when Ghira's away, and considering we haven't really seen anyone else, and Kali being present during Ghira's public speeches, I suspect there's not some other person. Plus it's just not *that* big of a town.
Who was it that took down the WF assassin with a tea tray ;)

I think I recall a council being mentioned actually, plus I think Kali who mentioned training? Regardless, Blake said "Sorry dad" when she burnt the house down and Kali's never been referenced as co chief or included in decision making, but we don't know enough to say so fair enough.
 
Who was it that took down the WF assassin with a tea tray ;)

I think I recall a council being mentioned actually, plus I think Kali who mentioned training? Regardless, Blake said "Sorry dad" when she burnt the house down and Kali's never been referenced as co chief or included in decision making, but we don't know enough to say so fair enough.

.... suddenly I want to see Blake training up Kali ^^
 
.... suddenly I want to see Blake training up Kali ^^
Could be fun!

Honestly some part of me still holds to a headcanon that Kali is/was a huge badass back in the day, but became exhausted and returned so training would be more like knocking the rust off, but I may be too attached to the idea. Still, she took down an assassin solo, she certainly has what it takes :D
 
Could be fun!

Honestly some part of me still holds to a headcanon that Kali is/was a huge badass back in the day, but became exhausted and returned so training would be more like knocking the rust off, but I may be too attached to the idea. Still, she took down an assassin solo, she certainly has what it takes :D
the old "retired assasin" trope?
 
Am I seeing this right? In V5C9, Gira gets hit by that fireball at around 10:18 and you can see his aura crackle. Initially I thought this meant he was out of aura, but after thinking about it maybe it's there to show he's simply using it? I can think of visible aura being shown when: Ren fights the big snek/Pyrrha's aura info dump, Pyrrha's black glow when she uses her semblance, Ren discovering his semblance. Just in case anyone was like me and thought Gira fought that entire episode with no aura, to stand around at the end with an untreated several-inch deep stab hole while being utterly fine...
 
Am I seeing this right? In V5C9, Gira gets hit by that fireball at around 10:18 and you can see his aura crackle. Initially I thought this meant he was out of aura, but after thinking about it maybe it's there to show he's simply using it? I can think of visible aura being shown when: Ren fights the big snek/Pyrrha's aura info dump, Pyrrha's black glow when she uses her semblance, Ren discovering his semblance. Just in case anyone was like me and thought Gira fought that entire episode with no aura, to stand around at the end with an untreated several-inch deep stab hole while being utterly fine...
His aura was down after the fireball, no aura break effect when the knife goes into his back. But aura break just means no forcefield function it does not remove super strength.

Ghira obviously was ignoring the stab wound in order to show his disdain for Sun, who passed out like a wuss when Ilia poked a similar hole in him. This disdain was also behind many of Ghira's decisions in that fight, such as ripping off his entire shirt to prove his body was better than Sun's, throwing his opponents into a different room so he didn't have to fight alongside Sun, and catching an entire balcony to one-up Sun's strength feat of bench pressing a support pillar in half. :p
 
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I'm seriously changing my mind about sticking with RWBY all the way to the end, just on principal. If that actually was his aura breaking, followed by a fight like that, well let's just say I'm straining just as much as Gira trying to suspend my own disbelief but nearly every episode has something that makes me go "surely this isn't bad and I'm just being salty". I've dropped better shows than RWBY for shallower reasons than this.
 
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