RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

[kokuenDG]

so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

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[Iandude0]

And considering Faking Death both by the person and another person doing it to you is a thing it seems odd to just go yep she is dead no question.

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It was confirmed later that she was supposed to have been reduced to a nuclear shadow by getting incinderated. It wasn't done due to rendering problems and time constraints.

 

[Triggerhappy]

It was confirmed later that she was supposed to have been reduced to a nuclear shadow by getting incinderated. It wasn't done due to rendering problems and time constraints.

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While I felt Season 3 needed shit to get real. I think that really would have been a bit much.

 

[revanninja]

It's more believable that Penny will be resurrected and more useful if Ozpin winds up alive despite Salem's claims.

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Yeah the people on the RT forum are looking at Salem's statement of Ozpin being dead odd too.
We get teased with the fight in vol 3 then we are off hand told oh he is dead. off screen death as well? Very odd.

Oh wow. You are really in denial. She's dead. She got shot in the chest, was getting burned from the inside, and then Cinder basically cremated her in front of Ruby. There is no reason whatsoever for Cinder to fake her death. There is no reason for Cinder to not kill her.

Her voice actress outright said that when she was cast, she knew that Pyrrha was going to die. Her voice actress returning for RWBY Chibi means absolutely nothing, as RWBY Chibi isn't canon.

And no, just because there is actual magic in RWBY doesn't mean it's possible for her to be uncremated and come back from the dead. There's a difference between manipulating the elements and outright resurrection of the dead. The fact that you used "magic exists" for your argument just shows how much you're grasping at straws.

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No i am not grasping at straws. The world literally has magic we see teleporting via Raven people have abilities that let them take literal lightning into their body for a boost.
When you get a world like that taking things at face value just doesnt work.

I am not in denial her VA never said only she knew Pyrrha's fate but the way she words it can easily be changed. And RT VAs have actually said things not correct before Donut for example.

There is actually a couple of reason Political pawn Pyrrha is a famous champion if she was used right she could turn Mistral against Atlas and create war which is Salem's stated goal. And cinder has shown interest in her from early on.
We dont know HOW Cinder's ability works we see her arrows form from nothing and literally break down and reform in mid air MUCH like how Pyrrha does.

This isnt grasping at straws this is looking at the setting and going there is things that dont follow normal rules and we are shown them ALL the time.

It was confirmed later that she was supposed to have been reduced to a nuclear shadow by getting incinderated. It wasn't done due to rendering problems and time constraints.

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That is literally the first time I have EVER heard that and I have been on the RT forums since Vol 3 finale. I have people who have argued with me on this and they have never brought this up.
So source?

 

[Triggerhappy]

Yeah the people on the RT forum are looking at Salem's statement of Ozpin being dead odd too. We get teased with the fight in vol 3 then we are off hand told oh he is dead. off screen death as well? Very odd.

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If it weren't for Salem seeming to think he was alive at the end of Volume 3 I'd have assumed Cinder was hiding her failure out of fear. Or it could be that Ozpin is alive but captive and the only people privy to that fact are Salem, Cinder, and the Grimm for simple reasons of security.

 

[revanninja]

If it weren't for Salem seeming to think he was alive at the end of Volume 3 I'd have assumed Cinder was hiding her failure out of fear. Or it could be that Ozpin is alive but captive and the only people privy to that fact are Salem, Cinder, and the Grimm for simple reasons of security.

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That is one idea being passed around. The fact she needs to tell Watts that Cinder is weak to Silver eyes because of the Maiden powers says to me that information is not being shared freely.
There is an idea called the Grimm Pyrrha theory which the New Grimm giest actually works towards.
The idea is that Cinder took Pyrrha captive for political tool use originally. She would be either controlled via a grimm or turned into one and then used as a wedge against Atlas then later when that purpose is spent as an enforcer or thug for Salem and Cinder.
This was made before Vol 4 to be clear.

Now some are toying with the idea that Pyrrha might be a test bed for the grimmification and its final use is for Ozpin to literally turn him against what he sought to protect his whole life.

The issue with Pyrrha is a lot of people have made up their minds on her despite the fact Cinder literally pulled a power we have never seen before. When she melts Milo for example it takes her a few seconds and Milo is only melted to the soft points where Cinder grabbed. Burning Pyrrha would take a LOT more power to do like ignite the air on fire levels now this is a fantasy world so they are playing loose with rules but its odd Cinder just pulls a power of that level out of thin air.
And the Diadem being left behind is REALLY odd because Cinder doesnt pay attention to it and just drops it which if it was a trophy is not what you would expect.

 

[Triggerhappy]

The issue with Pyrrha is a lot of people have made up their minds on her despite the fact Cinder literally pulled a power we have never seen before. When she melts Milo for example it takes her a few seconds and Milo is only melted to the soft points where Cinder grabbed.

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That's not really a reason to think Salem/Cinder will spontaneously pull out resurrection powers.

 

[JarringToaster]

No i am not grasping at straws. The world literally has magic we see teleporting via Raven people have abilities that let them take literal lightning into their body for a boost.
When you get a world like that taking things at face value just doesnt work.

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Again, there is a difference between Semblances and the outright resurrection of the dead.

And RT VAs have actually said things not correct before Donut for example.

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Comparing RWBY to Red vs Blue is not a good comparison as the latter was basically 80% crack for the majority of its seasons.

There is actually a couple of reason Political pawn Pyrrha is a famous champion if she was used right she could turn Mistral against Atlas and create war which is Salem's stated goal. And cinder has shown interest in her from early on.

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Grasping at straws there buddy. A 17 year old celebrity will not throw an entire kingdom into chaos. Cinder showing interest in her was more of a case of her being known as an invincible girl, nothing else.

We dont know HOW Cinder's ability works we see her arrows form from nothing and literally break down and reform in mid air MUCH like how Pyrrha does.

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...Cinder's forming and reforming her arrows is because she's using her powers as the Fall Maiden to make them. This is something she's only been shown to be able to do after she got part of Amber's powers. She's not teleporting them from somewhere. She's outright making them.

 

[Iandude0]

So source?

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It was in a tumblr post by Sheena (I think) right after Volume 3's finale aired. Showed a picture with Cinder holding her hand out to a dying Pyrrha. She'd had the pic since Vol 1 started and would release it after it was no longer spoilers.

I think that really would have been a bit much.

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It probably would have been around the same visuals but less ambiguous. She'd still get incinerated, it'd just show better.

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[revanninja]

That's not really a reason to think Salem/Cinder will spontaneously pull out resurrection powers.

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And its not its just one piece.
People keep looking for this solid piece of evidence which since Salem was never mentioned until she was released RT is going to make sure we dont have it until the reveal.
But there is lots of things adding onto this.
If there is only one piece of evidence or jsut a different view I would think Pyrrha is dead as well but there is a lot.
We have the odd flashy death
We have a trophy that is not a trophy
No confirmed death when Roman they happily talked like he was dead
They responded to Pyrrha petition FAST and made it clear they were doing the story their way and no petition was going to change it
Va used words that can be altered with context alone
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No real closure on pyrrha's death

There is probably more I am not recalling right now but its just a lot of odd things.
It may not come of ANYTHING to be clear I am not denying the possibility she is dead only just based on the many odd things we keep seeing it doesnt seem open and shut.

Again, there is a difference between Semblances and the outright resurrection of the dead.
Comparing RWBY to Red vs Blue is not a good comparison as the latter was basically 80% crack for the majority of its seasons.
Grasping at straws there buddy. A 17 year old celebrity will not throw and entire kingdom into chaos. Cinder showing interest in her was more of a case of her being known as an invincible girl, nothing else.
...Cinder's forming and reforming her arrows is because she's using her powers as the Fall Maiden to make them. This is something she's only been shown to be able to do after she got part of Amber's powers. She's not teleporting them from somewhere. She's outright making them.

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But there is the rub I am not saying Resurrection of the dead I am saying she never died in the first place it only LOOKED like she did which is where people seem to have issues. I think it was Cinder's bow which based on what we see is in lne with how Pyrrha breaks apart.
No and I wasnt comparing it I was comparing RT VAs to having said one thing then later having it turned around. EVERYONE said Donut was dead turns out no he wasnt. Jen said she wasnt voicing Pyrrha here comes chibi.
Again not grasping at straws a celebrity in a world FILLED with creatures were a little negative emotions can create a disaster is not only a FACT we were shown it in vol 3 finale. You are literally ignoring the story to deny tha if Pyrrha is used right she can collapse a kingdom because all it took for cinder to do it to beacon was Yang and Penny.
No that is what you THINK she is doing its not stated she is forming and reforming it. That is only what you THINK it is. As for not being able to do them before the Fall powers that I do agree but that is because I think the fall gave her a power boost which is why she goes from metal to her summon.

You honestly havent shown any solid evidence only your view on it.
And that doesnt work you ahve given your understanding of it but have no proof your version is correct.
But here is food for thought you might want to think about Cinder was HEAVILY wounded by Ruby's silver eyes. Ruby collapsed on the roof as far as we know. How did Cinder escape? If Em or Merc rescued her they would have killed Ruby because they are pragmatic like that. Cinder couldnt have done it there is strong hints her whole left side is a ruin and she is clearly still weak 8 MONTHS after the event.
So how did Cinder escape?
teleporting is the obvious solution and it falls into line with her other abilities add in we know Raven has the ability and we are shown Via Cole, Blake, and Sun you can have a semblance that works on the same idea but works in different ways.

It was in a tumblr post by Sheena (I think) right after Volume 3's finale aired. Showed a picture with Cinder holding her hand out to a dying Pyrrha. She'd had the pic since Vol 1 started and would release it after it was no longer spoilers.
It probably would have been around the same visuals but less ambiguous. She'd still get incinerated, it'd just show better.

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Since Sheena is not an RT employee and is in fact not involved with RWBY at all officially that isnt prove that is in fact just concept art or ideas. Its actually been a NASTY point that Sheena in fact does not have ANY say on anything to do with RWBY.
And I have seen that image it was created YEARS ago and things have changed and in fact the image itself says its not accurate to the show its only accurate to what Monty thought up at the TIME. As sad as it is to say Monty wasnt around when that scene was done and we know for a fact Miles and Kerry have changed things in the script.
Its a concept art not the final thing so using it doesnt work since Kerry and Miles clearly changed things.

 

[JarringToaster]

You honestly havent shown any solid evidence only your view on it.

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I don't think I even need to point out the sheer hypocrisy of this statement.

I'm just going to end this back and forth argument right here. Not because you're right or anything, but because your response as a whole is so terribly jumbled up together, has cases of missing grammar, and outright need capitalization to the point where I really don't even want to look at it.

Even if I refuted this, you'd just say the same thing that you've been saying every time you brought up Pyrrha's death. At this point, I'm just wasting my time, as you won't budge on your stance nor acknowledge the flaws of it.

 

[revanninja]

I don't think I even need to point out the sheer hypocrisy of this statement.

I'm just going to end this back and forth argument right here. Not because you're right or anything, but because your response as a whole is so terribly jumbled up together, has cases of missing grammar, and outright need capitalization to the point where I really don't even want to look at it.

Even if I refuted this, you'd just say the same thing that you've been saying every time you brought up Pyrrha's death. At this point, I'm just wasting my time, as you won't budge on your stance nor acknowledge the flaws of it.

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Its not Hypocrisy because I am not presenting my stuff as FACT only as what I am seeing and a different view. You have been trying to say I am grasping at straws this whole time yet you cant produce anything that proves your view.
You KEPT on saying I was grasping and acting like what you say is a proven fact when my whole point it there is a LOT we dont know ranging from what Cinder's semblance is to what even happened on the roof with Ruby.
So there is where the issue is coming from.

I find it HILARIOUS that you say I dont see the Flaws in it when I have flat out stated its possible she is dead but the reason why I dont think so is because of the MANY odd things going on with it.

Now grammar and spelling I will have to give to you part of it is I am tired posting on 2 different boards with 2 VERY different formats and I also have issues with it normally.

The problem is not that I wont budge on my stance its actually more people havent given me a reason to budge on it.
Pyrrha couldnt start a war or a disaster? Shown to be false as of Vol 3 finale.
Cinder's bow is forming and reforming? Not shown as its always off-screen and never stated plus where is she getting the materials from as it clearly doesnt come from her dress.
Concept art of Pyrrha as a nuclear shadow..which doesnt even look like a nuclear shadow? Maidens werent part of RWBY before Vol 3 so changes are being made to the story as well Monty is no longer writing it its Miles and Kerry.

You see this is all facts not a single theory or idea this is stuff either we have no idea of IE cinder's bow or directly stated or shown in the show IE directors commentary on Maidens.

People keep on acting like I and others like me are just pulling this stuff from thin air when no most of our stuff is actually backed up or not proven one way or the other.

 

[Iandude0]

Not shown as its always off-screen and never stated plus where is she getting the materials from as it clearly doesnt come from her dress.

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It's shown when she generates the bow to finish off Pyrrha with and I believe it was said that the weapons she uses in the CCT were glass and thus untraceable, which would make sense if the character's main shtick was fire and she could superheat the stuff into useable shapes like the swords and spikes she did during the CCT attack.

The arrow she shot Pyrrha with would also likely have been made of glass as it was generated in a similar way and thus could have been flash melted and reformed by someone with enough power (IE a maiden) to do so and enough discipline to do so correctly.

This also doesn't take into account that the arrow pierced her freaking spine to the outside of her back and went all the way through her heart as it was. That is a killshot unless they can also pull bullshit healing magic out of their ass at a moment's notice along with teleportation magic that somehow exists and has completely different tells from the teleportation stuff we've actually seen in canon (IE Raven's swordbeams and the Grimmglove warping in the bug).

Look, I'm not saying it isn't possible but the amount of justification it would take for what's basically a narrative waste (removing the ramifications of death) doesn't really sound like something worth doing at all.

 

[revanninja]

It's shown when she generates the bow to finish off Pyrrha with and I believe it was said that the weapons she uses in the CCT were glass and thus untraceable, which would make sense if the character's main shtick was fire and she could superheat the stuff into useable shapes like the swords and spikes she did during the CCT attack.

The arrow she shot Pyrrha with would also likely have been made of glass as it was generated in a similar way and thus could have been flash melted and reformed by someone with enough power (IE a maiden) to do so and enough discipline to do so correctly.

This also doesn't take into account that the arrow pierced her freaking spine and went all the way through her heart as it was. That is a killshot unless they can also pull bullshit healing magic out of their ass at a moment's notice along with teleportation magic that somehow exists and has completely different tells from the teleportation stuff we've actually seen in canon (IE Raven's swordbeams and the Grimmglove warping in the bug).

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Actually no when she summons her bow it comes from below the screen the particles that form the bow we dont see their origin.
Ruby did say that but Cinder did in fact use glass shards from a Dust vial when she never uses again. The catsuit is designed to be an untraceable source and allow Cinder to use her abilities but not give away who she is.

She summons her bow without the use of glass and its also formed very different as its black while the glass shards she uses are clear.

Glass flows it doesnt break apart into flecks. Glass is melted sand and in its heated form its a liquid like substance not flecks of ember like material like we see with Cinder.

AH I was wondering when someone would bring that up. Ironwood. Ironwood is not currently medically possible the fact he is up and about and not dying in a bed says that RWBY's world actually has VERY advanced medical tech. What is lethal and crippling for us? Less so for them and Ironwood is the proof.
Also as we saw with Pyrrha's shield Cinder can reform her arrow at will. If cinder was going to capture Pyrrha why does everyone think she would be dumb enough to do a kill shot? If Cinder was going to capture Pyrrha that arrow through the chest would not be lethal.
Cinder is a planner and a good one at that from what we see if she wanted to place an arrow into Pyrrha's chest and not kill her she would do it as she had no rush and all the time in the world.
Then there is the fact the arrow wound glows which no other including amber's lethal shot glows.

Now as for it being different then what teleportation we have seen I have actually answered that above.
Blake Sun and Flynt Cole all have Clone abilities. They are all different but work on the same idea. Blake's creates shadow decoys, Sun energy clones kind of like Naruto's, and Flynt full on clones or splits of himself.
So if Cinder has a teleport it actually doesnt have to look like Raven's at all as Semblances have been shown to work on the same idea but behave in different fashions.

This is my point and what I am trying to say its not open and shut as people think it is.

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and again the narrative of death is brought up like Pyrrha not dying some how removes it from play.
Tell me did Tukson death not matter?
Amber's?
Mercury's dad?
Roman?
Penny? okay a robot so things dont work perfectly there but you get the idea.

Pyrrha is ONE character if she turned out to not be dead. Not revived but as in she never was dead in the first place that doesnt remove the narrative of death. All it does mean is that we need to pay attention to deaths and look for odd things.
Death is not broken just because ONE character turned out to be not dead.

Now if ALL of them turned out to be not dead especially amber whose powers moving on is a sign of her death? Then it breaks.

But the argument that Pyrrha is alive breaks the death narrative is wrong because it ignores all the other deaths that have happened.

 

[Jensaarai]

Glass flows it doesnt break apart into flecks.

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What? Glass doesn't 'flow'.

If cinder was going to capture Pyrrha why does everyone think she would be dumb enough to do a kill shot? If Cinder was going to capture Pyrrha that arrow through the chest would not be lethal.

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Why would Cinder want to capture Pyrrha? She's pretty much useless to her at that point in time.

Then there is the fact the arrow wound glows which no other including amber's lethal shot glows.

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It does glow in the same colour as Pyrrha's Aura, however. And send little sparks off into the sky. And Amber was also glowing in the colour of her Aura when she gets shot, so...

So if Cinder has a teleport it actually doesnt have to look like Raven's at all as Semblances have been shown to work on the same idea but behave in different fashions.

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And why hasn't Cinder ever demonstrated this random ability to teleport before? It really doesn't fit into her whole theme, anyway.

Death is not broken just because ONE character turned out to be not dead.

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But it's an incredibly slippery slope, because it sets the idea in the audience's mind that Death is Cheap.
Hell, I'd argue that Penny coming back would cheapen the effect that a character dying brings to the table in terms of story-telling.

Pyrrha's dead. If she hadn't been incinerated, she'd be pushing up the daisies.

 

[revanninja]

What? Glass doesn't 'flow'.
Why would Cinder want to capture Pyrrha? She's pretty much useless to her at that point in time.
It does glow in the same colour as Pyrrha's Aura, however. And send little sparks off into the sky. And Amber was also glowing in the colour of her Aura when she gets shot, so...
And why hasn't Cinder ever demonstrated this random ability to teleport before? It really doesn't fit into her whole theme, anyway.
But it's an incredibly slippery slope, because it sets the idea in the audience's mind that Death is Cheap.
Hell, I'd argue that Penny coming back would cheapen the effect that a character dying brings to the table in terms of story-telling.
Pyrrha's dead. If she hadn't been incinerated, she'd be pushing up the daisies.

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Yes glass does

Molten glass right there.
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Molten glass is how glassblowing works actually from my understanding its not a liquid like water but it is a liquid form.

Political clout as I have said before Pyrrha is a famous champion in Mistral as demonstrated by Vol 3 you can use people reacting to bring in Grimm Pyrrha can generate that reaction or create mistrust and chaos among Mistral preventing it from doing a proper defense.

Actual Amber's does not glow nor send out sparks
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The glow coming off amber is golden from the machine and amber's aura is brown.
So no she does not spark.

That is just it if she does have the ability then she has been demonstrating it. Everytime she goes for her bow? Her using her ability. That is how simple that is. It also helps explain how Cinder got off the tower as wounded as she was according to Vol 4 because there is no way she got off the tower under her own power based on how wrecked she is in vol 4.

It can create the idea Death is cheap that is why you need to be careful but the fact there is other people dead and ones who DO have massive effects on the plot such as Amber helps remove that line of thinking. No matter what there is ALWAYS going to be some arguments on this. Yang not being killed has been argued that is plot armor because Adam should have gone for the kill with his stated goals and views on humans.
No matter what that argument and the opposite is always going to be there and that is normal for a fictional story.

Pyrrha being dead is only what you assume has happened to her. There is enough questions and odd things that its not 100%. And that is honestly all I am trying to point out really. That its not this perfect she is dead there is room for Kerry and Miles to say no this happened.

 

[Regency]

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I don't. I wouldn't mind Cinder being taken out by Ruby, Weiss, or someone with actual skills. However, it would honestly be stupid to be taken out by Jaune of all people. Jaune's main point is not only is he inexperienced as a Hunter, but he's a sub-par (this is being generous) fighter. A few months isn't going to change anything for him to catch up to Cinder of all things. The only reason he'd maybe even stand a chance against Cinder is if she's still in terribly wrecked condition.

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Or, as per Soulsborne and other gaming tradition, ganking and kill-steal . More seriously I think that although Jaune is now good enough to kill Beowolves (per intro) without too much hardship he'll have no named character kill because though he's at least an average hunter in training a.k.a. around CRDL level (the Grimmlands can be pretty harsh, and if you live you can improve a lot, according to Qrow) his is only enough for varying levels of mooks.

 

[Hykal94]

Man, I really hate this Kingdom X = RL Country/Continent in the WoR comments section.

It's fantasy. Just because Skyrim takes inspiration from Vikings, doesn't mean it fully replicates a certain section of Europe. Just because Westeros is based off Europe, doesn't mean it's England/France. That's part of why it's fantasy. Distilling it to Fantasy Counterpart to RL Counterpart does a disservice to both real history and creators' fictional settings.

Vacuo is Africa - oh fuck off.

 

[Zam]

Man, I really hate this Kingdom X = RL Country/Continent in the WoR comments section.

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It happened over on SB for awhile as well if I recall. I can grasp wanting to see where people might have drawn inspiration from, the 'Menagerie Plan' may have been inspired by the 'Madagascar Plan' for instance. But yeah, there's not a huge amount that can come from it (Especially until we actually see said nations) and the real world has so many cultures and fantasies to be inspired by let alone imagination that whatever bleed through there is, is likely to be accidental.

 

[Mook]

It does glow in the same colour as Pyrrha's Aura, however. And send little sparks off into the sky. And Amber was also glowing in the colour of her Aura when she gets shot, so....

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Don't forget Yang's arm.

I quit watching when penny got cut to pieces. Does she get put back together? Does it get cheerful again like it was in the first couple seasons?

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Let me put it this way, the first thing we see Team RNJR/JNRR do this volume is argue over whether they should call themselves RNJR or JNRR, Jaune becomes the Grif of RWBY and takes an epic nut shot and Ruby literally rolls on the floor laughing.

 

[Carrnage]

Vacuo is Africa - oh fuck off.

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Yeah, the parallels are obviously the middle east, how anyone could think it's africa is beyond me.

 

[Krazyfan1]

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Or, as per Soulsborne and other gaming tradition, ganking and kill-steal . More seriously I think that although Jaune is now good enough to kill Beowolves (per intro) without too much hardship he'll have no named character kill because though he's at least an average hunter in training a.k.a. around CRDL level (the Grimmlands can be pretty harsh, and if you live you can improve a lot, according to Qrow) his is only enough for varying levels of mooks.

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Jaune throws Ruby the sword and she uses it to stab Cinder through the heart?

 

[Leingod]

Her voice actress outright said that when she was cast, she knew that Pyrrha was going to die. Her voice actress returning for RWBY Chibi means absolutely nothing, as RWBY Chibi isn't canon.

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In the Volume 3 Cast Commentary, Jen Brown (Pyrrha's VA) says that when she got cast in the role, Monty told her to "make Pyrrha as likable as possible, so it really hurts when she dies."

So yeah, Pyrrha's dead.

 

[Regency]

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Jaune throws Ruby the sword and she uses it to stab Cinder through the heart?

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If he's too banged up and not surrounded by foes. And Ruby accepted the sentimentality. Otherwise, RNJR probably won't have the breathing room to do that and would just decide on 'first come first served' pragmatism if they somehow managed to have a legit chance in Cinder-Slaying

EDIT: or just, plan around the best fighter they have at hand to do the job.

 

[Monochrome_Tide]

Pyrrha is dead.

If she makes any other appearances, it's got to be postmortem. "Teleported away!" would not fix the issue of being literally shot through the heart or lungs with a superheated glass arrow. It's also cheap misdirection.

You can hear her choking and cooking. She is dead, Jim.

 

[Leingod]

You can hear her choking and cooking. She is dead, Jim.

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Plus she goes limp and slumps over right before getting incinerated, so she was either dead or passed out from lack of oxygen even before that part.