RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
 
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Thats not what people are saying though. I think it is always best to look at what people are saying instead of creating what you think they are saying.

For the most part people take issue with that scene as one of writing, while we do know that Yang has taken care of Ruby and had scenes with her, it still feels strange when some of their scenes get interrupted for no reason, or when their reactions/emotions are muted.

To say that those people have unhealthy views of sibling dynamics and parenting i think crosses the line onto personal insults.

Its mostly questionable writing. Why interupt the scenes of sisterly bonding with BB, when both can happen without interrupting one another. Which is a fair complaint i feel and needs no extrapolation.

Honestly it just feels like every other time they write a romance every other relationship the characters involved in have takes a back seat to make the romance look better because it's the fast easy option.

It just also doesn't help that a lot of other same sex relationships are currently being done that have better writing.
 
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Honestly it just feels like every other time they write a romance every other relationship the characters involved in have takes a back seat to make the romance look better because it's the fast easy option.

It just also doesn't help that a lot of other same sex relationships are currently. Sing done that have better writing.
A reviewer put it best that it's like if Shrek was written with the restriction that Shrek and Fiona are the only people allowed to interact with each other and they can't have interesting dynamics with the other members of the cast.
 
A reviewer put it best that it's like if Shrek was written with the restriction that Shrek and Fiona are the only people allowed to interact with each other and they can't have interesting dynamics with the other members of the cast.
I really have to question what show that reviewer is watching because it's clearly not RWBY. Cause we get plenty of scenes with Blake and Weiss (See the cheering but I'm also saying in general) Yang and Ruby, and, and Yang and Weiss. With the main complaint a lot of people had was Ruby and Blake didn't interact much, something Volume 8 corrected. A volume which I may note had Yang split off from Blake and the rest of her team for a good chunk of the season.

So I don't think this reviewer really has a valid argument because Yang and Blake clearly interact with other people a lot.
 
And the reactions weren't muted they were just subdued, which is a distinctly different thing. There was plenty of emotion there it just wasn't as loud as the BB reunion was for reasons others have said, the dynamic between Ruby and Yang is considerably different then the dynamic between Yang and Blake.
I thought we were doing spoilers?
Anyway, as is typical of the complainer crowd they didn't pay any attention to the scenes structure in their haste to screech about the Bees being bad. IE, that Ruby was running up to Yang, likely to hug her when Yang drops to her knees and starts expressing outward anger and frustration with literal tears in her eyes because 'You weren't supposed to be here'. Yang's reaction caused Ruby to shift gears and they had that wonderful moment where Ruby reminds us it was Yang who raised her and makes clear she would have gone after Yang even if she hadn't been launched off the platforms. Then Blake jumps in.

So I don't think this reviewer really has a valid argument because Yang and Blake clearly interact with other people a lot.
Come now Teen Spirit, you can't expect them to actually engage with the show as its presented when complaining about it can you? That would be incredibly unfair! Only their visceral emotional reaction is valid, regardless of how disconnected from the reality of the show it is. Like how Adam stans insist the guy introduced manipulating his partner and trying to commit mass murder for funsies was totes a hero before he was somehow ruined. They felt it in their bones Teen Spirit, so it must be true, no matter what was on screen.
 
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Ruby is a good teammate.

Keeping Yang distracted so Blake had time to line up her shot...

What? She had to know Yang was gonna be hugged at high velocity.
 
The contest no one wants to win! And after the last few volumes, the top candidates are dead, so Shady and Henry are in with a good chance!
 
I'd say Shady wins for most punchable face in that contest.

Did you not see the punch Yang threw at his face? Sent him bouncing all over the walls, and it was absolutely hilarious!

True. Plus Henry is a product of his surroundings, and mostly harmless in his stupidity. Shady is a sexual harrasser and plague on society in general, which gives a +40 to Punchibility.
 

Like any other show, RWBY does have a few spots where I don't think the writing works, but not in any sort of whole show destroying way. Occasionally there's there something weird (the Raven/bird thing or some issues with how some of the White Fang plot feels like well meaning white dudes writing a very special episode with a few unintentional unfortunate implications). Overall, though, RWBY is not a badly written show and there's been quite a lot of improvement over time.

There's definitely a demographic of people who confuse a story taking a turn they didn't want or anticipate as being the fault of the writers as opposed to their own personal taste. IRT RWBY, these are the people that complain about Adam being a villain, Ironwood's fall into madness, or that the stakes have somehow gotten "too big." That stuff is not bad writing, it's just something that wasn't to your taste. Get over it and find a new show to watch.

Of course, as the latest psychotic discourse demonstrates, that final paragraph is spot-fucking-on.
 
I have to wonder how many of the people complaining about Blake and Yang being potentially romantically involved watch YouTube videos about how "forced diversity" is ruining our favourite franchises.
 
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I have to wonder how many of the people complaining about Blake and Yang being potentially romantically involved watch YouTube videos about how "forced diversity" is ruining our favourite franchises.

The real comedy comes from the people who spent years feverishly defending Adam and everything he did and desperately insisting Bumblebee was nothing but queerbaiting/our imagination because they haven't kissed, then turning around and claiming that Bumblebee is 'toxic', 'selfish', or 'they just have concerns.'
 
I had a weird idea, I think that the second to last fight of the season is going to be WBY, and maybe Jaune, vs Ruby, a theme of this volume is going to be escapism, so Ruby at her lowest takes up the offer to escape her life and her friends will try get her back causing Ruby to fight them.

It also meshes with the idea of there being no victory in strength, Ruby can get a Evil Powerup but she is going to need to do a lot damage to her friends if she wants for them to abandon her, something that she can't bring herself to do so the closer that she gets to winning the physical fight the closer that she gets to loosing the emotional one.

Also, to the people that believe that Ruby is going to loose her eyes it is the perfect time to do it as her Silver Eyes, something that symbolizes her warrior spirit and her connection to her mom with all the good and bad that comes with it, is the perfect price to pay for the special Joy Pill that will take all her problems away, which also ups the the ante of the fight against her friends as now giving up her Evil Powerup doesn't just means that she has to confront all that has happened to her but also allow herself to be weak and helpless in front of her team as she now will be blind, and even if she would be able to correct for that it will take time and she will be dependent on her friends during that, but also has lost Special Silver Eyes Powers, but this isn't Naruto so I don't actually expect her eyes to be the source of her powers so she will probably still be able to use them when she recovers.
 
Like to be absolutely clear I do believe there are arguments to be made about RWBY's quality that are somewhat to completely valid. I really like RWBY and it's honestly one of my favorite shows period but this does not mean I think it's perfect. But it does feel like a lot of criticism across the internet (Not here) concerning stuff like Ironwood, Atlas, Adam and Bumblebee really feels people mistaking the show not going in the direction they wanted it to go and mistaking that for being bad.

Admittedly I don't know what show Adam Stans and Ironwood fans want and frankly I don't want to know.

We've got the comic preview!

www.tumblr.com

So yeah this is a thing

he’s very polite
Loving Gordon's face

 
I so adore being able t post proper Tumblr posts again, anyway:
Every single character is black and white. None of the main heroes are perfect. They're not exclusively good or bad. Even most of the villains aren't exclusively evil.
This is such a contradiction.

"That's what I love about RWBY! Everyone is either just straight up good or evil! But they aren't perfect, have shades of grey, and most of the villains aren't actually evil!"

That said, the show has this same sort of mixed message where it wants to say that there are no sides, that there is no such thing as pure evil, or that everything isn't as black and white... Then proceed to steamroll those messages with villains who just do exclusively evil actions for the sake of being evil.
 
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