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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • Pugman said:
    lies can become truths and truths can become lies.
    if he managed to keep the lie and Salem was eventually stopped for good, then his lie would not of mattered all that much.
    also being turned on by people you trusted hurts no matter what. if he told someone the truth from the start, and that person later turns on him and joins salem or something that is going to hurt.
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    Yeah but that hasn't happened and he has no actual plans for stopping Salem so it was never going to happen as he'd seemingly given up on permanently ending her threat.
    Being lied to by your leader and manipulated into a war even he finds hopeless (cos why else would he lie about the threat and stakes if he didn't think you'd quit upon hearing the truth) that may well have left you injured, traumatized, isolated and with dead loves one's some of which may not have happened had you/they known all the details he kept close to his chest, also hurts.
     
    Tython82 said:
    To be fair Watts was believed to be dead at the time so Ironwoods logic might have been that only a few people could get through the network and they are all on my pay roll.
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    But then why did he upgraded Atlas' security network? The fact he bothered to do it for his city means that he thinks that there might be people that could infiltrate the network if it's not regularly updated, so him not doing it for Mantle is simply because he doesn't give a fuck about it. Or more precisely, don't consider Mantle as part of Atlas the kingdom, the one whom his duty is to protect.


    Psyga315 said:
    Remember when Black Sun was a thing?

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    You just never stop don't you?
     
    ElMariachi said:
    But then why did he upgraded Atlas' security network? The fact he bothered to do it for his city means that he thinks that there might be people that could infiltrate the network if it's not regularly updated, so him not doing it for Mantle is simply because he doesn't give a fuck about it. Or more precisely, don't consider Mantle as part of Atlas the kingdom, the one whom his duty is to protect.
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    Pretty much this. That or he just assumed because he didn't think Mantle was important the villains wouldn't either, despite their entire plan hinging on Mantle mattering.
     
    And now, a moment that will never get old


    I hope this pandemic is over soon.
    I want to be able to walk into my local Barne's & Noble and buy a physical copy of both Before The Dawn and the RWBY Fairy Tales books.
     
    Gah I know its minor thing but I have to express my distaste again of the WOR cover cards for youtube. It just looks so out of place. For me the first cover cards in RT and before the re upload just fitted better than what their releasing now. It just jarring to see.
     
    I doubt this is plausible

    but it does lead to the tantalizing image many across the net have
    "What if the Heroes/Protagonists....... Just. Let. Go."
     
    Pugman said:
    I doubt this is plausible

    but it does lead to the tantalizing image many across the net have
    "What if the Heroes/Protagonists....... Just. Let. Go."
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    I don't think it works because it requires a level of control that she hasn't shown before. Much easier would be for her to drop em
     
    Pugman said:
    I doubt this is plausible

    but it does lead to the tantalizing image many across the net have
    "What if the Heroes/Protagonists....... Just. Let. Go."
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    Interesting premise, but I don't see it really happening. Not because Ruby is too pure or anything, but because they put a heavy emphasis of it being speed-based with the rose petals being an effect she has. When a Semblance "evolves", it's often an upgrade of how it normally works, with Blake being a good example. Before, you could tell what's a Shadow and what's the Real Blake and it's only used for Blake to use as a ninja log, but in later Volumes, she often uses it as a decoy (as in it looks exactly like her) while she sets up her attack.

    Given how the wording of Ruby's semblance is "bursts into rose petals" or "speed", an evolution of her Semblance would mostly involve mobility than killing, like how she managed to use that "shell game" technique.
     
    Psyga315 said:
    Interesting premise, but I don't see it really happening. Not because Ruby is too pure or anything, but because they put a heavy emphasis of it being speed-based with the rose petals being an effect she has. When a Semblance "evolves", it's often an upgrade of how it normally works, with Blake being a good example. Before, you could tell what's a Shadow and what's the Real Blake and it's only used for Blake to use as a ninja log, but in later Volumes, she often uses it as a decoy (as in it looks exactly like her) while she sets up her attack.

    Given how the wording of Ruby's semblance is "bursts into rose petals" or "speed", an evolution of her Semblance would mostly involve mobility than killing, like how she managed to use that "shell game" technique.
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    Although there's Harriet's comment that Ruby's "speed" Semblance is different from other speed Semblance she saw, which hints that Ruby's Semblance isn't actually speed with the rose petals being a side-effect, but the other way around: that her Semblance are the ability to transform into rose petals, and that her high speed in this form is just a nice bonus. Pyrrha referred to Ruby's Semblance as "Speed", but its official name is "Petal Burst", which again implies that the rose petal part is the important part of her Semblance, not the speed.
    In fact, now that I think Ruby's Semblance is the only one that transforms its user (and its target) into another form, the only similar thing I can think of is Qrow and Raven's ability to transform into a raven, and that's thanks to old world magic.
     
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    The 'just let go' idea has some fun to it, though as it is I'd assume that Ruby 'letting go' of someone while they are active in her Semblance just means they reform as themselves. This is because her Semblance effect is "turn it on, become rose petals, turn it off, become me" not "Turn it on, become rose petals then turn back into me". Or in other words de-activating it cause her to reform as whatever effect it ha son her physical form fades. Granted this is rather presumptive of me in terms of how it works so I could be entirely wrong.
     
    Zam said:
    The 'just let go' idea has some fun to it, though as it is I'd assume that Ruby 'letting go' of someone while they are active in her Semblance just means they reform as themselves. This is because her Semblance effect is "turn it on, become rose petals, turn it off, become me" not "Turn it on, become rose petals then turn back into me". Or in other words de-activating it cause her to reform as whatever effect it ha son her physical form fades. Granted this is rather presumptive of me in terms of how it works so I could be entirely wrong.
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    by "let go" I more mean "let go of the good guy mentality and restraints, and just unleash all inner fury on a target"
    and we know that when press Ruby will cut foes up.
    Imagine if Ruby could go "Death By A Thousand Cuts" in her petal form. Just a storm of cutting blades in the guise of innocent rose petals.
     
    Pugman said:
    by "let go" I more mean "let go of the good guy mentality and restraints, and just unleash all inner fury on a target"
    and we know that when press Ruby will cut foes up.
    Imagine if Ruby could go "Death By A Thousand Cuts" in her petal form. Just a storm of cutting blades in the guise of innocent rose petals.
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    Sorry I did understand that it was just that it felt applicable to what I thought you were saying which was Ruby grabbing someone, turning them into rose petals then ditching them so they stay as rose petals and basically due because they lack her Semblance's ability to turn back into a person.

    That would indeed be pretty baller and badass, also terrifying, I imagine there's a few rather nasty lethalities the heroes could use if they forsook their moral quandaries, though given the themes of the series and how skill development works I could see some of those also have vulnerabilities or leading to reduced skills maybe cos they rely on the easy way out?
     
    a MK-style fatality I could see for one of the RWBY girls I can see is for Blake.
    she grabs them and hangs on their back, but uses her semblance to leave an ice/stone clone in her place, leaving the enemy stuck. from there she either detonates the clone, killing the target, or uses gamboul shroud to stab them to death or cut them apart.
     
    Zam said:
    Sorry I did understand that it was just that it felt applicable to what I thought you were saying which was Ruby grabbing someone, turning them into rose petals then ditching them so they stay as rose petals and basically due because they lack her Semblance's ability to turn back into a person.

    That would indeed be pretty baller and badass, also terrifying, I imagine there's a few rather nasty lethalities the heroes could use if they forsook their moral quandaries, though given the themes of the series and how skill development works I could see some of those also have vulnerabilities or leading to reduced skills maybe cos they rely on the easy way out?
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    I could see her do that on Cinder once she mortally wounds her, poetically tying her death to how Pyrrha died. Optionally, have it within Emerald's view, having just arrived to see Cinder die.
     
    Pugman said:
    by "let go" I more mean "let go of the good guy mentality and restraints, and just unleash all inner fury on a target"
    and we know that when press Ruby will cut foes up.
    Imagine if Ruby could go "Death By A Thousand Cuts" in her petal form. Just a storm of cutting blades in the guise of innocent rose petals.
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    Zam said:
    Sorry I did understand that it was just that it felt applicable to what I thought you were saying which was Ruby grabbing someone, turning them into rose petals then ditching them so they stay as rose petals and basically due because they lack her Semblance's ability to turn back into a person.

    That would indeed be pretty baller and badass, also terrifying, I imagine there's a few rather nasty lethalities the heroes could use if they forsook their moral quandaries, though given the themes of the series and how skill development works I could see some of those also have vulnerabilities or leading to reduced skills maybe cos they rely on the easy way out?
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    Pugman said:
    a MK-style fatality I could see for one of the RWBY girls I can see is for Blake.
    she grabs them and hangs on their back, but uses her semblance to leave an ice/stone clone in her place, leaving the enemy stuck. from there she either detonates the clone, killing the target, or uses gamboul shroud to stab them to death or cut them apart.
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    And this is why Aura exists...

    Ruby's Death By A Thousand Cuts by sweet roses is probably the most terrifying in itself.

    Yang could just punch you and you either blow up, or burn alive from the inside.
     
    Historyman14 said:
    And this is why Aura exists...

    Ruby's Death By A Thousand Cuts by sweet roses is probably the most terrifying in itself.

    Yang could just punch you and you either blow up, or burn alive from the inside.
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    Or tosses one of her knew grenades into an open mouth, holds the mouth close with one hand, and uses the other to detonate it.
    the name would be "Spicy Meatball" or "Indigestion".
    because PUN.
     
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