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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • VolantRedX said:
    Yeah and had you guys read my post I clearly state that Adam isn't a good person, he's a monster. The thing is that doesn't make him a psychopath. Psychopathy is an actual medical condition, not just shorthand for "dick who kills people". Adam turned out the way he did, a terrorist leader killing everyone around him as opposed to simply an asshole because the people around him enabled that. Had the White Fang not turned into the Real IRA of the Faunus society he'd never be much more than an asshole people didn't like.
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    I read your post, but it was basically putting the blame for Adam being a murderous dickhead onto other people's shoulders based on the Adam short when in my eyes for the reasons explained nothing indicated anyone guided Adam or encouraged him down that path and again, he's an adult, he chose to be a murderous backstabbing, abusive fuckhead.
     
    Zam said:
    I read your post, but it was basically putting the blame for Adam being a murderous dickhead onto other people's shoulders based on the Adam short when in my eyes for the reasons explained nothing indicated anyone guided Adam or encouraged him down that path and again, he's an adult, he chose to be a murderous backstabbing, abusive fuckhead.
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    Except you apparently didn't or I was being unclear. My point wasn't that Adam is an asshole because of other people, I'm saying he's a killer because of other people. He only started killing people because he's part of a terrorist organization, that's shown outright. Without the White Fang Adam is merely a horrible person. Moreover, I'm simply protesting calling him a psychopath since it's inaccurate. He's not a psychopath. Psychopathy is an actual mental condition that he displays pretty much no symptoms of beyond being violent and self-absorbed.
     
    VolantRedX said:
    Except you apparently didn't or I was being unclear. My point wasn't that Adam is an asshole because of other people, I'm saying he's a killer because of other people. He only started killing people because he's part of a terrorist organization, that's shown outright. Without the White Fang Adam is merely a horrible person. Moreover, I'm simply protesting calling him a psychopath since it's inaccurate. He's not a psychopath. Psychopathy is an actual mental condition that he displays pretty much no symptoms of beyond being violent and self-absorbed.
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    I bolded the part that gave the impression I took from it if that helps.

    Again and as noted, we're introduced to him donning a mask specifically designed to make him look like a monster and encouraging others to commit crimes while smirking gleefully and as we saw in the WF itself Sienna's style was not the gleeful murder for funsies that Adam already wanted to engage in. I'm not interested in debating the specifics of sociopath , or psychopath, I merely took issue with the implication anyone besides Adam is responsible for his behaviour and decisions once he was an adult.

    VolantRedX said:
    The only person Salem has killed intentionally was Leo. She even seems upset at Cinder's seeming death and not in a "she has failed me for the last time" sort of way. I mean she's not a good person, clearly wants to kill a good number of people and has been directly responsible for a great deal of death at Beacon and elsewhere, but she seems to actually treat her minions with some level of respect and understanding. I'm not even sure Adam could be called a psychopath, at least not clinically. While he's a monstrous person he seems to possess a normal emotional range, if a warped one, and according to his short seems to have only turned out the way he did because his worst impulses were constantly enabled by the people around him.
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    Zam said:
    I bolded the part that gave the impression I took from it if that helps.

    Again and as noted, we're introduced to him donning a mask specifically designed to make him look like a monster and encouraging others to commit crimes while smirking gleefully and as we saw in the WF itself Sienna's style was not the gleeful murder for funsies that Adam already wanted to engage in. I'm not interested in debating the specifics of sociopath , or psychopath, I merely took issue with the implication anyone besides Adam is responsible for his behaviour and decisions once he was an adult.
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    Ok, I was unclear my fault. I didn't want to imply that Adam would be a sweet and kind man without all those nasty people around him, just that it's unlikely that he'd be killing people or if he did it wouldn't exactly be seen as a good thing to do without being part of a terrorist group that kills people.
     
    VolantRedX said:
    Ok, I was unclear my fault. I didn't want to imply that Adam would be a sweet and kind man without all those nasty people around him, just that it's unlikely that he'd be killing people or if he did it wouldn't exactly be seen as a good thing to do without being part of a terrorist group that kills people.
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    Maybe, but given how the short presented him, I think he'd still be killing people, he'd have probably had to collect followers himself as we saw at the start though as opposed to being able to cheat his way into a leadership position via treason and a secret coup though.
     
    Zam said:
    Maybe, but given how the short presented him, I think he'd still be killing people, he'd have probably had to collect followers himself as we saw at the start though as opposed to being able to cheat his way into a leadership position via treason and a secret coup though.
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    We also see that his first murder was an accident. Sure he likely didn't suffer any loss of sleep over it but he seems to fall more in line with the likes of Cardin and such vs Mercury or Cinder. Now he might have gone looking for an excuse later, but from what we see he is a classic escalator growing worse the longer he goes without being stopped or punished.
     
    VolantRedX said:
    We also see that his first murder was an accident. Sure he likely didn't suffer any loss of sleep over it but he seems to fall more in line with the likes of Cardin and such vs Mercury or Cinder. Now he might have gone looking for an excuse later, but from what we see he is a classic escalator growing worse the longer he goes without being stopped or punished.
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    I think that's supposition, especially given how gleeful and the imagery in his fight leading up to that and as already noted Sienna didn't endorse murder for the funsies, she lauded him for saving Ghira's life, not for killing a dude. Plus, again, he's an adult, he made his own choices on this front, to be a murderer, to be a backstabber, to be an abuser who took advantage of a child's infatuation with him.
     
    Zam said:
    I think that's supposition, especially given how gleeful and the imagery in his fight leading up to that and as already noted Sienna didn't endorse murder for the funsies, she lauded him for saving Ghira's life, not for killing a dude. Plus, again, he's an adult, he made his own choices on this front, to be a murderer, to be a backstabber, to be an abuser who took advantage of a child's infatuation with him.
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    I don't dispute any of this. I'm not trying to absolve the guy or defend him. My only point is that he's like any other young man who falls into terrorism as a way to deal with his own internal feelings of weakness, hatred, and inadequacy.
     
    VolantRedX said:
    I don't dispute any of this. I'm not trying to absolve the guy or defend him. My only point is that he's like any other young man who falls into terrorism as a way to deal with his own internal feelings of weakness, hatred, and inadequacy.
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    If not for the fact he seemingly made all those decisions himself with no real input or guidance from anyone else given Ghira wasn't a criminal, Sienna wasn't a murder for funsies person and he was only lauded for saving someone's life, you might have a point, but as it is I disagree. Also that doesn't address him being a backstabber or abuser who took advantage of Blake.
     
    Slater said:
    (Example: Why didnt Emerald use her chains to stop Yang in V5 from going after Cinder instead of that weak grab,
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    Because it would have taken too much time to animate. :tongue:


    Also Yang could have just dodged the chains as well. Emerald has only ever managed to tie up peer opponents when she had the element of surprise (ex: hiding in a forest and attacking Coco from behind while she was focused on Mercury)
     
    Psyga315 said:
    Or even use her illusions. Yang had easily fallen for them in the battle already.
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    Literally everyone has easily fallen for them, the only time it didn't take perfectly was with Amber and that was solely cos Emerald kicked up some dust she didn't account for in the hallucination, causing Amber to notice discrepancies and freak out.

    Plus what illusion could she conjure of any real note, Yang's not slow by any means and she is running in a straight line.
     
    Psyga315 said:
    Yang charges forward, but Mercury's form disappears as a result of another one of Emerald's Semblance hallucinations. Emerald then creates an image of Raven, which Yang is hesitant to attack. Yang then blocks another attack from Mercury, but she is then knocked down again.
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    A surprise appearance of Raven she is wary to attack for a moment is not the same as Raven literally fading into existence in front of her while she's running towards a hole and is also aware of Emerald's power.
     
    Crossposting some stuff from SB:


    Iscariotpaladin said:
    To summarize apparently this will intially cover the period between volumes three and four, some of it covering stuff that M&L wanted to cover but had to cut. Also it's gonna release in digital form first in late August before releasing in print later.
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    Slater said:
    But as for some actual news:
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    She's really playing it up apparently. :lol2:


    Casey Lee Williams said:
    Ironically enough, I've wanted to dye my hair half pink for quite a few months, and LONG before I ever even knew about or was given the opportunity to voice Neo's fighting efforts! I was pretty directly inspired by @dishwasher1910 's Neo concept art (which is AMAZING; last pic)

    and Neo is my favorite RWBY character, as most of you know. But I also still had that 15-year-old punk/emo Casey voice telling me to just "DO IT." So here we are, and I couldn't be happier with the new look. huge shoutout to @elliehullmusic for the lovely . @OfficialRWBY


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    Mook said:
    Crossposting some stuff from SB:






    She's really playing it up apparently. :lol2:
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    I think Ruby's design is the best of the bunch, my god what did they do to Weiss's hair? I know it was big however here it looks like she never cut once in her life and decided to get some extentions for it as well, do they think that she is similar to Medusa from Marvel and that she can use it to attack people? it looks like it, especially with those tips.
     
    Rwby Comic 2 Solicitation


    written by MARGUERITE BENNETT
    art by MIRKA ANDOLFO
    cover by SARAH STONE
    variant cover by STANLEY "ARTGERM" LAU
    Yang Xiao Long is listless after the fall of Beacon. Isolated from her friends and recuperating at home, she'll do anything to distract herself from her pain, but what can helping out around town do for her? Meanwhile, Blake Belladonna reminisces about her relationship with Adam Taurus and the White Fang as she makes her way home!

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    Edit: Speak of the devil RWBY (2019-) #1 - Comics by comiXology

    Oh yeah, the comics for both rwby and gen:Lock are releasing digitally about a month or so before there print runs, there alternating every week between the 2 series.
     
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    So, looked at some screen shots of the comic on Twitter and, without saying too much...

    If Linkara from Atop The Fourth Wall ever comes across this, he's got a lot of material.
     
    Psyga315 said:
    So, looked at some screen shots of the comic on Twitter and, without saying too much...

    If Linkara from Atop The Fourth Wall ever comes across this, he's got a lot of material.
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    So do you actually have anything meaningful to contribute or are you just being purposefully vague to stir the pot... again?

    Because if it's the latter, please stop. Everyone is sick of it.
     
    I found the comic online.
    Didnt seem to be that much in it?
    we know that Yang Snores..
    its like a condensed World of remnant, but by Early series Ruby
    and we got a picture of Summer, Tai and Mini Yang and Ruby
     
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