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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • Leingod said:
    They already knew her through their connections to the Halo franchise via Red vs Blue and they booked her for something like an hour. Both of those things in mind, it probably wasn't a massive expense.
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    Also, the rest of the voice cast was basically in house. Jen Taylor probably got the lion's share of the VA budget, relatively speaking.
     
    blast flame said:
    They'll probably end up hiring an equally well known replacement I'd imagine.
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    That's not solving the problem, that's drawing attention to the problem by making it even bigger than it already was. Plus whoever they hire might end up asking for even more money than Vic was getting. Again, the easiest and smartest solution here would be to just kill Qrow first thing in the season.
     
    Note that I said that someone based in Texas would ideal, not mandatory, Yuri Lowenthal is based out of California, and he not only voices Mercury but also Neil in Camp Camp, so someone Cali based is not out of the question.
     
    Whatever happens, this is bound to split the fanbase more than it has. Mercury didn't have much screen presence when the VAs changed but Qrow had spent 4 volumes already and now he's either gonna go the way of Tex from RvB or be replaced by someone whose voice will no doubt be different from Vic's.
     
    Delphisage said:
    That's not solving the problem, that's drawing attention to the problem by making it even bigger than it already was. Plus whoever they hire might end up asking for even more money than Vic was getting. Again, the easiest and smartest solution here would be to just kill Qrow first thing in the season.
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    They've said this isn't going to impact the story. Killing off Qrow because of meta-reasons is letting it impact the story.

    What problems does hiring someone new and important cause anyway? Same number of high-quality voice actors and decent people will understand the need for the switch.
     
    Delphisage said:
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    This is the kind of response I'd expect from someone in the late 2000s, not now.

    Anyway, I don't care for Qrow either, but they're not gonna kill him off. Honestly, a recast is probably the best thing that'll happen to Qrow, because I can finally be invested in his character should I choose to be.

    Delphisage said:
    Because nothing happens in this show
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    Stuff happens, you may not like that stuff, but it happens all the same.
     
    Delphisage said:
    That's not solving the problem, that's drawing attention to the problem by making it even bigger than it already was. Plus whoever they hire might end up asking for even more money than Vic was getting. Again, the easiest and smartest solution here would be to just kill Qrow first thing in the season.
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    They are a major animation studio with hundreds of employees. Someone getting union rates for a couple hours of booth time every year is not going to be a big deal.
     
    blast flame said:
    A character getting arbitrarily killed off for non-story reasons is not the good kind of "something happening".
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    Also it seems really silly to argue that Qrow has to be arbitrarily killed off because of his voice actor just so that something can happen, right after a volume where a ton of shit happened and which ended with the reveal that the immortal godlike queen of evil is amassing a massive horde of custom-made Elite Mooks so that she can personally go to war with the most powerful military power in the world.

    Regardless of what happens to Qrow SHIT IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN.

    Oh and Qrow's odds of surviving look kind of bleak anyway, considering what happened the last time a Wicked Witch sent Flying Monkeys to deal with a plucky teenage girl:
     
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    On the cost of voice actors and such.

    This is something that often gets conflated with misconceptions.

    Vic was not some above the bar cash out grab. His rates were/are the same as any other actor doing non union work for a Texas production.

    His popularity/infamy has nothing to do with how much he would cost.

    (And even if it did work like that Vic has long lost the status as one of the most iconic VA's in the industry, there's a reason his FMA cast mates like Baker, Bailey and Willingham all easily surpassed him into far bigger roles. Seriously name the biggest thing Vic worked on it the last decade and it would be Rwby lol.)

    This misconception gets brought up a lot, especially with Gen:lock and its all star cast but again there not spending significantly more for that Voice work then on anything else relative to there budget.

    The reason Pixar/Disney/Dreamworks so often go for big actors isnt to flaunt that they have money. Its because seeing Tom Hanks is voicing Woody made people who like Tom Hanks more likely to see Toy Story.

    Same logic for Gen:lock, or Rwby getting the original Edward and Alphonse Elric.

    But doing that doesn't strap them for cash for animation/music/editors anything else.
     
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    Qrow has had two massive death flags in two different volumes and he's survived both of them. Besides killing him now would be kind of werid considering they seem to be finally tackling the issue of his drinking problem.
     
    Slater said:
    (And even if it did work like that Vic has long lost the status as one of the most iconic VA's in the industry, there's a reason his FMA cast mates like Baker, Bailey and Willingham all easily surpassed him into far bigger roles. Seriously name the biggest thing Vic worked on it the last decade and it would be Rwby lol.)
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    Just a side note but he recently played Broly in the Dragon Ball Super movie....which Ironically got the ball going again.
     
    Teen Spirit said:
    Qrow has had two massive death flags in two different volumes and he's survived both of them. Besides killing him now would be kind of werid considering they seem to be finally tackling the issue of his drinking problem.
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    Indeed. While the Flying Monkeys allusion is worrying it should be noted that while the original flying monkeys unstuffed the Scarecrow and dented the Tin-Man they did not actually kill either of them. The Scarecrow was restuffed and the Tin-Man mended, so if they're going for the literary allusions then I expect Qrow and Ironwood to be wounded badly enough to be out of action after Salem's attack, possibly being sidelined all the way up until the big climatic showdown in the final volume. But they probably won't die.
     
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    Teen Spirit said:
    Qrow has had two massive death flags in two different volumes and he's survived both of them. Besides killing him now would be kind of werid considering they seem to be finally tackling the issue of his drinking problem.
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    I am neutral on Qrow living or dying but there are plenty of ways to tackling his drinking problem and him dying. After all character growth doesn't always have to be positive, not even in RWBY.
     
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