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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • So... given that we already have Tin Man, Cowardly Lion and Scarecrow, I assume that the head of the academy in Vacuo is Dorothy?
     
    Delphisage said:
    Daily reminder that the guy who turned his back on Ozpin's oligarchy was a faunus.

    Seriously, there needs to be a fanfic that addresses how much of a Nazi wet dream this show is.
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    Daily reminder that the woman who turned her back on Ozpin's oligarchy was a human.

    So out of 2 traitors 1 is a human and one is a Faunus. Oh wow, such Nazi, much implications. :rolleyes:
     
    Psyga315 said:
    I'm thinking a Munchkin, or if you wanna go obscure, Jack Pumpkinhead. Dorothy is either Ruby (Ruby Slippers) or Summer (Silver Eyes = Silver Slippers)

    Tik-Tok seems to be more fitting in Atlas than Vacuo.
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    I really doubt anyone at RT has read the original novel, much less the sequels. It'll be a character from the film version. If not Dorothy, then maybe Toto (a dog faunus, presumably). That would fit with the WORs saying that Vacuo being the most egalitarian of the kingdoms, because all people care about there is that you're badass enough to survive.
     
    Mook said:
    Daily reminder that the woman who turned her back on Ozpin's oligarchy was a human.
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    Who wears a Grimm/White Fang-esque mask, looks like a female pallete swap of Adam, and can turn into a bird.
    I'm not ignorant of Hanlon's Razor. I'm just saying that it's really easy to construe this show into being a remake of Birth Of A Nation.
     
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    No, I was stretching my argument because I'm a pedantic idiot. I don't think Raven's a faunus.

    Basically, I'm here because I want to goad people into posting or making fanfics.
     
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    Delphisage said:
    Who wears a Grimm/White Fang-esque mask, looks like a female pallete swap of Adam, and can turn into a bird.
    I'm not ignorant of Hanlon's Razor. I'm just saying that it's really easy to construe this show into being a remake of Birth Of A Nation.
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    Ehh... a bit of a stretch, I think. I mean, even without the race shit, the wise old man trope alone can be argued to carry fascist patriarchal undertones. There's even a further problematic twist when the wisdom he dispenses is often to teenage girls and the power dynamic there. Or you could make an interesting case with how the magical destinies of certain characters are arbitrary and that how that role was forced on them rather than any choice of their own, kind of reinforces some authoritarian ideas about serving society, no matter how unjust.

    There's a lot to deconstruct with this show and some legitimate interpretations of it that are less kind than others, but what I'm saying is that everything needs it's own space. The kinder or closer to the show's intent readings don't need to be run over.
     
    Barnaby said:
    Ehh... a bit of a stretch, I think. I mean, even without the race shit, the wise old man trope alone can be argued to carry fascist patriarchal undertones. There's even a further problematic twist when the wisdom he dispenses is often to teenage girls and the power dynamic there. Or you could make an interesting case with how the magical destinies of certain characters are arbitrary and that how that role was forced on them rather than any choice of their own, kind of reinforces some authoritarian ideas about serving society, no matter how unjust.
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    I'm wondering if you could trace a line between oligarchy, Calvinism and fascism...

    There's a lot to deconstruct with this show and some legitimate interpretations of it that are less kind than others, but what I'm saying is that everything needs it's own space. The kinder or closer to the show's intent readings don't need to be run over.
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    Yeah, you're probably right there. Problem is, while I can easily see the intended purpose of stuff like this, I haven't really been exposed to any generous readings. I mostly assume they just echo the intended purpose while also making assumptions for future plot turns.
     
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    Delphisage said:
    No, I was stretching my argument because I'm a pedantic idiot. I don't think Raven's a faunus.

    Basically, I'm here because I want to goad people into posting or making fanfics.
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    Then you are in the wrong thread. This is the RWBY fanfic thread:
    Lets Get To It! Rwby Ideas/discussion Thread

    And maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, but it seems to me that you would have better odds of convincing people to posting or writing fanfics by asking for recommendations or making or discussing ideas for fanfics than by implicitly stating that the FNDM is full of nazis.
     
    Mook said:
    Implicitly stating that the FNDM is full of nazis.
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    I think that's reaching as well. He suggested there was a fascist reading to RWBY, but that doesn't mean the same of those who watch it.

    I mean, there's really no media out there without at least some problematic elements. It doesn't necessarily say anything about one's identity.
     
    I think I've mentioned it before but that reminds me. I feel like a lot of the characters would be better served as being duo's rather then members of full teams. Maybe present seniors as splitting into duo's? Because we would have Coco and Velvet, Neptune and Sun, you could even split JNPR if you really wanted to and justify it as them having stronger individual dynamics and or Pyrah straight up training Jaune.

    Because guys like Yatsuhashi aren't bad, but they are really extraneous and contributed to the sense of character bloat we had in volumes two through four.
     
    Dream Logic said:
    I think I've mentioned it before but that reminds me. I feel like a lot of the characters would be better served as being duo's rather then members of full teams. Maybe present seniors as splitting into duo's? Because we would have Coco and Velvet, Neptune and Sun, you could even split JNPR if you really wanted to and justify it as them having stronger individual dynamics and or Pyrah straight up training Jaune.

    Because guys like Yatsuhashi aren't bad, but they are really extraneous and contributed to the sense of character bloat we had in volumes two through four.
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    I think that's a fair point. The teams initially form as Duo's anyway. And wanting to see the return of characters like Neon&Flynt or Penny(OG or 2.0)&Ciel would be a lot simpler if doing so didn't have to mean having to introduce four more characters to the already large cast. On the flipside however those kinds of shenanigans would have made the simplistic all ages vs everyone format of the Vytal Festival be even harder to pull off. Unless every fight was a 2v2 I suppose.
     
    Psyga315 said:
    Actually, that has a point. With Blake's character arc effectively over, what purpose would she serve next other than to provide shipping and handling?
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    Characters can have more than one arc. Her arc with Adam is over, but there's still the issue of her interpersonal relationships with the rest of the team after having run out on them. And I'm really hoping that going to Atlas means we're actually going to see some faunus oppression going on, with her making Weiss face some hard truths.
     
    The Narrator said:
    Characters can have more than one arc. Her arc with Adam is over, but there's still the issue of her interpersonal relationships with the rest of the team after having run out on them. And I'm really hoping that going to Atlas means we're actually going to see some faunus oppression going on, with her making Weiss face some hard truths.
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    1. Color me skeptical that they will address interpersonal relationships. The moment that the four sat down together and held hands heavily implied to me that all the interpersonal problems that resulted from Blake running away are fixed. Even though she didn't go to Mistral expecting to see her team, I'm sure the show is going to spin it as "she came back for us"
    3. Weiss already admitted in the first three volumes that she knows that the Schnee company has issues. So there won't be any Grand Revelation for her unless they retcon away her knowledge of the company's problems.
     
    thesevenwielder said:
    1. Color me skeptical that they will address interpersonal relationships. The moment that the four sat down together and held hands heavily implied to me that all the interpersonal problems that resulted from Blake running away are fixed. Even though she didn't go to Mistral expecting to see her team, I'm sure the show is going to spin it as "she came back for us"
    3. Weiss already admitted in the first three volumes that she knows that the Schnee company has issues. So there won't be any Grand Revelation for her unless they retcon away her knowledge of the company's problems.
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    Whether or not they do address the interpersonal issues or Schnee mistreatment of faunus (and I wouldn't put money on it), those are storylines that they could do with Blake even if her story arc with Adam is resolved.


    Psyga315 said:
    For some characters, once they have a character arc closed (sometimes not even fulfilled), it's the axe for them.
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    I don't think they're going to kill off one of the title characters.
     
    The Narrator said:
    Characters can have more than one arc. Her arc with Adam is over, but there's still the issue of her interpersonal relationships with the rest of the team after having run out on them. And I'm really hoping that going to Atlas means we're actually going to see some faunus oppression going on, with her making Weiss face some hard truths.
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    I wouldn't even say her arc with Adam is over really. Sure she managed to get over her fear of him and faced him down in a situation where she had all the advantages and didn't really need to fight him for real. That's a very different thing from dealing with a psychotic stalker hunting you down, which is likely what she will face in future volumes. "You are still afraid" and all that, not to mention that Adam's been described as domestic abuser, and the thing about them is that it can often be very dangerous to stand up to them, which I think we will see in future volumes. Basically, Blake's arc with Adam is not over until she and Yang shatters that mask of his and grinds his face into the pavement.
     
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