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RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

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Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
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    • so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
    We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

    That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

    So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

    In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
     
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    • WhiteDragon25 said:
    That's the thing about life: the world isn't fair. If it was fair, it would be Kim Kardashian who would be dead, instead of Monty Oum. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

    Just more proof against the Just World Fallacy. And more excuses to kick in the teeth of assholes who are a perfect demonstration of it.
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    That's rather tasteless to say.
     
    I'm expecting an (even larger) army of RWBY cosplayers for Anime North this year and a hell of a remembrance ceremony. Monty Cult Eternal.
     
    TheLastOne said:
    That's rather tasteless to say.
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    A Nation's Virtue said:
    ...wow. No, seriously, wow.
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    Tasteless, but nonetheless true. Perfectly good people who do so much good for the world, end up dying young or from severe depression (or both); while other people, those who are utter scum, whether it be talentless hacks who do nothing but sit there looking pretty, or sociopathic monsters who exploit the misery and suffering of thousands for their own fun and profit, get to live on until they are old and grey, and get to continue on fucking up life for hundreds of other people.

    The idea that we live in a 'Just World', where good things only happen to good people, and bad things only happen to bad people, is a fraudulent fallacy perpetuated by these types of assholes, implicity implying that they belong in the former group with everyone else in the latter.

    Monty Oum, along with dozens of other talented, well-liked artists and creators, were good people, who didn't deserve the bad ends they got. If live was fair, we would still have them alive. But sadly and frustratingly, life isn't fair.
     
    WhiteDragon25 said:
    Tasteless, but nonetheless true. Perfectly good people who do so much good for the world, end up dying young or from severe depression (or both); while other people, those who are utter scum, whether it be talentless hacks who do nothing but sit there looking pretty, or sociopathic monsters who exploit the misery and suffering of thousands for their own fun and profit, get to live on until they are old and grey, and get to continue on fucking up life for hundreds of other people.

    The idea that we live in a 'Just World', where good things only happen to good people, and bad things only happen to bad people, is a fraudulent fallacy perpetuated by these types of assholes, implicity implying that they belong in the former group with everyone else in the latter.

    Monty Oum, along with dozens of other talented, well-liked artists and creators, were good people, who didn't deserve the bad ends they got. If live was fair, we would still have them alive. But sadly and frustratingly, life isn't fair.
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    Yeah, you're doing nothing but digging yourself in deeper here. You're talking time away from "It's sad this person died" so that you can go "I wish this other person would die."

    It's vile, tasteless, and utterly inappropriate.
     
    TheLastOne said:
    Yeah, you're doing nothing but digging yourself in deeper here. You're talking time away from "It's sad this person died" so that you can go "I wish this other person would die."

    It's vile, tasteless, and utterly inappropriate.
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    Yeah, yeah, I'll shut up now.

    Monty deserves better than us arguing.
     
    WhiteDragon25 said:
    That's the thing about life: the world isn't fair. If it was fair, it would be Kim Kardashian who would be dead, instead of Monty Oum. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

    Just more proof against the Just World Fallacy. And more excuses to kick in the teeth of assholes who are a perfect demonstration of it.
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    I know you're mourning, and I know you admired the guy and his work, but his death is no reason to wish death on others.

    Just mourn and let him rest
     
    He's gone too soon.
    Too goddamn soon.
    Shit.... his family must be shattered over this. I didn't even know that he was married.
     
    *raises a glass*

    I got into RWBY way late, and haven't really followed much else Rooster Teeth have done, but I'll willingly agree the world lost a great creator today.
     
    All those get well pictures people made, they were so fun and nice at the time.

    Now they seem more depressing then anything else.
     
    GA_Reese said:
    No one in the fandom seems to have known he'd married Sheena. Knew they were together, sure, but he'd kept that they'd gotten hitched quiet. Just a terrible shame.
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    I follow Sheena on Facebook, and honestly she had made no kind of mention about knowing Monty closely until like the incident in question. It's probably for the best knowing how people on the internet and in fandoms can be at times.
     
    MobiusOneDT said:
    I follow Sheena on Facebook, and honestly she had made no kind of mention about knowing Monty closely until like the incident in question. It's probably for the best knowing how people on the internet and in fandoms can be at times.
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    Very true. Gotta keep some privacy somehow.

    Looking forward, there's no way it's not going to be rough devastating on the crew when it comes time to debut RWBY v3 at RTX this summer, assuming its release isn't delayed. There probably won't be a dry eye in the house, even if it's as fun an episode as "Best Day Ever".
     
    GA_Reese said:
    Very true. Gotta keep some privacy somehow.

    Looking forward, there's no way it's not going to be rough devastating on the crew when it comes time to debut RWBY v3 at RTX this summer, assuming its release isn't delayed. There probably won't be a dry eye in the house, even if it's as fun an episode as "Best Day Ever".
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    I'm going to have Brave Little Soldier Boy flashbacks from that episode of Avatar the Last Airbender most likely when that premiere comes out.
     
    Seeing those guys about to choke up when they're normally so good on-air was hard to listen to. I'm glad they were able to tell fun stories about Monty though. You can definitely feel how close they were as friends.
     
    I found just the tribute video on Tumblr. I'm sure it's on the RT site too.
    His last words in the video hit me like a freight train.

    "Moving forward, I always think about what's next... I'm super excited to finish what we have so that I can start working on something else."

    Just... this was not okay. It will never be okay.
     
    Well... that hurt, I'd been thinking about the last podcast I saw of Monty which had similar lines as well, it's just I don't even have any words.
     
    Zam said:
    Well... that hurt, I'd been thinking about the last podcast I saw of Monty which had similar lines as well, it's just I don't even have any words.
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    He was taken from us too soon.

    If words could convey the totality of our grief, perhaps that would be of some comfort. But I find myself unable to say just how much of a sense of loss I feel. All that talent, that potential, that personality, just... gone.
     
    TheBleachDoctor said:
    He was taken from us too soon.

    If words could convey the totality of our grief, perhaps that would be of some comfort. But I find myself unable to say just how much of a sense of loss I feel. All that talent, that potential, that personality, just... gone.
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    That's part of what really struck me about it, there are people in life both far and close who you sort of... prepare yourself for I guess, the idea they might pass on is always there, while others, other people feel like staples in life. Monty was definitely the latter to me, I just sort of always expected him to be there in the background of a pod cast or at the forefront of some event and awesome new creation and then this happened.

    Having the words might have indeed at least provided a sense of closure, though maybe not, but words can rarely convey grief aptly. All we can do is keep pushing forward even if it hurts or feels empty.
     
    Zam said:
    That's part of what really struck me about it, there are people in life both far and close who you sort of... prepare yourself for I guess, the idea they might pass on is always there, while others, other people feel like staples in life. Monty was definitely the latter to me, I just sort of always expected him to be there in the background of a pod cast or at the forefront of some event and awesome new creation and then this happened.

    Having the words might have indeed at least provided a sense of closure, though maybe not, but words can rarely convey grief aptly. All we can do is keep pushing forward even if it hurts or feels empty.
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    People like Monty definitely have such a strong presence that it feels as if their absence is impossible. Then they're gone and...
    I always expected I'd see more of him in the future. I wanted to be able to go to RTX eventually and tell him personally how much I loved his work.
    Now that's just not possible.
     
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