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question. If we want to combine this with Chakra Scalpels (which in
relevant situations grant +AB to Medical Ninjutsu), which of the
following buff combination stunt would be most appropriate?
  • Chakra
  • Scalpels + Vampiric Attunement/Would You Please Calm The Fuck Down
  • Technique/Fuck the Please, Calm The Fuck Down Technique
  • Chakra Scalpels + Water
Good question. Chakra Scalpels + Vampiric Dew, much the way you would buy "thing + element" for other combo stunts like Rocket Octopus. (See [url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JdE1lGoRnzj4HIuzlYdDq18FTYZ5s-Qxa1Mt0NR_cQM/edit#heading=h.rkocjhtcpd2w"]docs[/URL] for details.)

Given that it's been roughly ~a day IC, can we assume that all of our party members and Noburi are at full chakra?
Yes, everyone is at full chakra. The rest of the team because they regenerated naturally and Noburi because he hasn't actually spent much lately and whatever he did spend we can handwave away saying that he got it back from draining the creatures in the cave, or by taking sips from the team. (i.e., we don't want to do the exact bookkeeping and this seems about right)
 
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Correct. The Vampiric Dew Bloodline Limit is not the same thing as the Water Element, and skill in using Vampiric Dew powers does not result in skill using Water Element ninjutsu, or vice versa.
VD is half-costed under Water Ninjutsu so there is some skill transfer, not that I necessarily think this isn't the correct ruling. I agree that Water Ninjutsu and the VD seem different enough that they shouldn't benefit from the same buff slot
 
[x] Action Plan: Another Golem's Den?
Word Count: <299
  • Dispel
  • Sanity-check with the team.
  • Secure the pool, close off deeper tunnels with MEW, and set up a trap perimeter
    • Search for any chakravores in the grotto.
    • Noburi, see if there's anything in the water -- be thorough, take your time.
      • Don't immerse yourself, put a hand in at most.
  • Avoid using ES to study the grotto lest we trigger something.
    • Examine the crystals -- are they functional PS substrate?
      • Use chakrascope and MS8, any similarity to the Honey crystals?
      • Are the seals burning up like they did in the Honey cave?
    • Test chakra adhesion/repulsion, any difficulty?
    • Grab samples -- ideally broken off already, to test ES on later.
  • Don't take a dip yet, the chakravores are still around, and we don't know if the effect would take time to adjust to
  • After the grotto is cleared, continue hunting down the chakravores.
    • Everyone be on high alert concerning your chakra reserves
      • The drain looked to be short range (1 Zone), so if anyone's reserves precipitously drop, Substitute away
    • Engage the chakravores with RW, MW and Taijutsu only, no ninjutsu.
      • Although enhancements like CotWG and SotS hopefully shouldn't be harmful to use.
    • Noburi should focus on activating more misterators, detecting more foes, and wresting any drained chakra back from the chakravores.
    • Any regular beasts can be engaged with mist drain.
Can I suggest that we don't spend too much time hunting down the chakravores? They may simply have fled after encountering something that insta-killed one of them when they tried to drain it, in which case hunting too aggressively might expose us to more risk than just leaving them alone. Maybe add "If the chakravores seem no longer to be in the area, [something]".

Actually, speaking of:
They weren't there. You didn't run into anything on the way down aside from a few normal bugs.
Pinging also @eaglejarl @Paperclipped : was the statue there? You said we didn't run into anything, so I assume not, but if it's not there that suggests the other chakravores took it with them, which would be ... interesting data.

I pity the poor Wakahisa children born with different elements. I guess they only ever get deployed when it's raining?
I had the impression that all Wakahisa were born with Water Element? Even if not, though, it's only 1000XP to learn a new element and you get half that back in ninjutsu; they probably just do less dangerous missions for a year or so while they learn Water.
 
Pardon the ping, but would it be possible to get this copied/pasted into the rules doc and also the THing Rules informational post? Just for ease of reference?
did we ever get a version of [the skysliders] that can be put into a storage seal?

They're below the mass limits so all that's left is the total volume, and while they're quite large in area the total volume of the wings should be quite small.

With clever design it seems to me that the wings could be telescoped or folded so as not to exceed volume limitations of the seal, and the hollow tube could be disassembled into a couple sections for storage if necessary.
The design team did not manage to design a version with detachable/telescoping wings that did not frequently experience unintended lithobraking behavior, so skysliders cannot be stored. Also, the main spinal components are too long to go in a storage scroll.

Y'all have said that, should we have any ideas for Jiraiya's Seal Horde, to ping you. And @Kylinger, over in the Discord, had an amazing idea: Jiraiya's Seal Horde should contain a bunch of storage seal/explosive variants, stolen from the people he beat. That way, y'all don't need completely new mechanics or worldbuilding considerations.
Good idea, thanks for the suggestions.


It's been roughly two in-game years since Gaku started to gather information on all of the clans in Leaf. Is there any chance Gaku will have this dossier ready for us when we return to Leaf, or maybe even gave it to us at any time in between now and then and Hazo just hasn't looked at it yet?
Still not ready yet, sorry.

(Also, ponwog90: This isn't a super high priority for us as there's a lot of other stuff that's going to have more impact on the story and has a shorter time horizon.)


Something which I have never understood about the buff stacking rules, is why even though Aspects are specifically exceptions to the buff stacking rule, every single time we see a mechanic which generates an Aspect we get a disclaimer that it counts as a buff. It's just strange IMO, why specify that Aspects are exempt and then never let them be exempt?

The only thing that makes sense to me at this point is if the rule change was supposed to say Character Aspect instead of Aspect. That makes significantly more sense to me seeing how it's been implemented since. Yet I'm also pretty sure Wound Aspects are allowed to add to the buff stack, or is that incorrect?
This is to leave open the option of scene Aspects causing a buff that is particular to the situation. The reason why most Aspects are ruled out is because the Aspects the players are interested in are ones that they can always have available (i.e. generated by jutsu/seals/etc). You are correct that wound Aspects are usable.

Pinging also @Velorien @eaglejarl

Is the Rift necessary for this research? Or can we successfully research the runes without it and come back to test our work? Oro didn't have access to a rift to do his research....right?

Did Hazou take the opportunity during this week to use Shadow Clones to do limited FOOM with the team's regeneration? Or to read notes in the evenings?

Also, do all of our teammates have sufficient RRBs, and Force Blades for a combat or two?

I believe this was already answered but let me know if not and we'll get back to you.

Was this retcon'd? This is something that seems to conflict with Ryugamine's interlude on Yagura's rise to power.
Could you link that, please? Brain is cheese

As in "the Vampiric Dew's application during surgery" or "the surgery that biological Wakahisa ninja undergo as children?"
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There was a mention that one of the barriers to entry for the Audit XP was the simple allocation of all the audits. I went through the pages and I believe that I've found them all.
I'm checking all the 'todo' threadmarks we have and clearing them out where possible. I believe this was all dealt with? I see audit awards on Hazō's sheet, at least.

Could we please get these seals moved/added to the "List of seals Hazō can make" section of the known seals document? Also Skywalkers, but I can't find the quote for when that happened.
Done. Thanks for collecting all of it.

Okay, there's a ton more stuff in QM QUINOA but a lot of it still needs to be signed off. Also, this post is stupidly long, to the point where I have spoilered it so as not to make mobile users tear their hair out scrolling.
 
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Could you link that, please? Brain is cheese
The Ninchishō Affair, of course, was never recorded in the history books, but suffice it to say that the resulting power vacuum was like a dream come true to the likes of Karatachi. I will forever respect poor Lady Rebi for her attempt to stand against the tide of darkness consuming Mist culture, but in the end, she was the wrong woman in the wrong place at the wrong time, and the kami showed her no mercy.

Naturally, Lady Rebi's fall necessitated the creation of a new jinchūriki, and also the election of a new Mizukage. It was Karatachi's stroke of genius to propose that both should be the same figure, and a display of extraordinary political skill to have the net land on her infant son. By leveraging the resentment accumulated over Lady Rebi's twilight years, she was able to persuade the other clan heads of the benefits of a figurehead child Kage, with the Three-Tails to lend him legitimacy against those who did not subscribe to her plan.

Thus was born Yagura, and at first Karatachi's regency faction enjoyed a blissful dominance. In fairness, it must be said that they were not poor leaders, merely short-sighted ones—and never more short-sighted than when they failed to observe the changes occurring in their puppet. It is a simple truism of parenting that a child obeys their parents out of a hunger for approval. Love is not necessary, and discipline is not sufficient. The saint, the sage, and the abuser will achieve the same degree of obedience so long as they grant and withhold approval to the same extent.

What happens, then, when a child ceases to require this ambrosia?
 
ME: I'm so bored. If only I had something to read. *sighs*

EJ:

The design team did not manage to design a version with detachable/telescoping wings that did not frequently experience unintended lithobraking behavior, so skysliders cannot be stored. Also, the main spinal components are too long to go in a storage scroll.


Good idea, thanks for the suggestions.



Still not ready yet, sorry.

(Also, ponwog90: This isn't a super high priority for us as there's a lot of other stuff that's going to have more impact on the story and has a shorter time horizon.)



This is to leave open the option of scene Aspects causing a buff that is particular to the situation. The reason why most Aspects are ruled out is because the Aspects the players are interested in are ones that they can always have available (i.e. generated by jutsu/seals/etc). You are correct that wound Aspects are usable.



I believe this was already answered but let me know if not and we'll get back to you.


Could you link that, please? Brain is cheese


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I'm checking all the 'todo' threadmarks we have and clearing them out where possible. I believe this was all dealt with? I see audit awards on Hazō's sheet, at least.


Done. Thanks for collecting all of it.

Okay, those a ton more stuff in QM QUINOA but a lot of it still needs to be signed off. Also, this post is stupidly long, to the point where I have spoilered it so as not to make mobile users tear their hair out scrolling.
 
they probably just do less dangerous missions for a year or so while they learn Water.
Average ninja get 2 XP/day baseline and at least 2 stagnancy barriers take effect if you want to save up 1,000 XP. The first one affects the second 500 XP needed. 2-3 years is a reasonable estimate. 'Just do less dangerous missions than your peers for 2-3 years' doesn't match up with ninja in general.
 
Average ninja get 2 XP/day baseline and at least 2 stagnancy barriers take effect if you want to save up 1,000 XP. The first one affects the second 500 XP needed. 2-3 years is a reasonable estimate. 'Just do less dangerous missions than your peers for 2-3 years' doesn't match up with ninja in general.
Ah - I had 2.5 XP/day in my head as the average rate and had forgotten about stagnancy. In that case, yeah, a Wakahisa without Water Element might have problems. Still, Sir Stompy shared my impression that all Wakahisa have Water Element natively, so probably not too relevant.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped

Just checking up to see if this question is still under discussion! Thanks.
Looks like it was missed, so thanks for re-pinging. It's in the QUINOA chat channel and we'll get back to you, probably soonish. My proposed anser is "Wakahisa jōnin exist and are normal as compared to other jōnin with regard to aura abilities." I will be surprised if that isn't accepted.

I had the impression that all Wakahisa were born with Water Element?
Does this matter? I (unsurprisingly) don't remember if we've ruled either way, but what is the relevance?
 
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Looks like it was missed, so thanks for re-pinging. It's in the QUINOA chat channel and we'll get back to you, probably soonish. My proposed anser is "Wakahisa jōnin exist and are normal as compared to other jōnin with regard to aura abilities." I will be surprised if that isn't accepted.
Thank you so much!!

Innnnnnteresting PONWOG answer, too. I was worried that his internal chakra reserves would be too small to support an aura. Now I just have to wait for Kei, Hazō, or Noburi to get the rest of the way there and learn the mechanics!

EDIT: [checks Noburi's XP total]
Yeah, nevermind. We'll get the mechanics from Hazō or Kei long before we would from Noburi. :(

He's currently below 13,000 XP!
 
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Does this matter? I (unsurprisingly) don't remember if we've ruled either way, but what is the relevance?
Noburi and Yuno family planning, as far as immediate in-universe things go. Iirc, Yuno is Lightning and Noburi has already voiced concerns in an update. The answer to most relevant things is probably HDK, but what little he does know would be relevant to inform any IC investigations.
 
Are we going to have an idea of how to grow his medical skills to a level where they are useful in combat?
Yup.

Huh, was this about Chakra Disruption Blast?

Chakra Disruption Blast

XP Cost: 20 XP
Prerequisites: Medical Knowledge 50, Medical Ninjutsu 50, Vampiric Manipulation

In a moment of contact with the blood of the target, the Vampiric Dew user reaches into the target's chakra system and disrupts it in much the way a real-world taser disrupts a person's nervous system. This makes complex chakra manipulations temporarily much, much more challenging.

The user must be able to make direct contact with a target's blood (for instance, through a Water Whip with a chakra scalpel on the end of it), subject to the restrictions of Vampiric Manipulation.

After landing a hit that inflicted physical stress (i.e. not mitigated by armor), the user may use a Supplemental to spend 50 CP, and roll Vampiric Dew against the target's (Resolve + ⅓ Chakra Reserves). On a success, the target's ninjutsu/genjutsu cost 2x as much chakra as usual for two rounds, measured by Noburi's initiative (so if Noburi applies the effect on Round 2, it clears at the start of Noburi's turn on Round 4). The target suffers -2 shifts of movement when Sprinting on terrain that requires water/wallwalking, and cannot reflexively activate chakra-adhesion activated seals.

EDIT: @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped

Did Noburi pick up anything in his time with Tsuande that suggests he might be able to eventually use his capstone medical stats (Medical Ninjutsu, Medical Knowledge) in combat?

(Also, quite interesting how similar CDB is to my proposed stunt!)
STUNT: Noburi's Special Touch
PRE:
(Water Whip 50, Vampiric Touch 50, Medical Ninjutsu 50, and Medical Ninjutsu 50) OR (Water Whip 50, Vampiric Touch 50, Medical Ninjutsu 40, Medical Knowledge 40, and instruction from someone with both Medical Knowledge and Medical Ninjutsu above 70 who employs a similar technique).

Noburi's Water Whip is able to impart highly-damaging medical ninjutsu with a single touch. Upon making even brief contact by succeeding in a Water Whip roll, Noburi is able to make a second roll with either a medical technique (such as Pain Induction) or directly deal damage by spouting chakra scalpels and rotating them inside the target's body. If Noburi elects to do direct damage, make an opposed Medical Ninjutsu roll against the target's Physique. If the target suffered consequences from Noburi's initial Water Whip roll, apply them for purposes of this check.

This action consumes a Supplemental.
 
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Does this matter? I (unsurprisingly) don't remember if we've ruled either way, but what is the relevance?
If Wakahisa are not all born with Water Element, the ones who aren't pretty much have to learn it or else be unable to use most of the cool tricks their bloodline offers. This raises interesting questions about what training tracks non-Water Wakahisa genin would take; do they all learn Water as quickly as possible? Do they basically act as chakra batteries for other ninja (as is the Wakahisa stereotype) while they do that? Do they focus on other things instead (e.g. Ranged Weapons) and use their bloodline purely as support while not needing much chakra themselves, perhaps barely levelling VD at all? It has implications for what the population of adult Wakahisa is like, in the end, because if you focus on something as a genin you're likely to continue focusing on that later because you've already invested in it.
 
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