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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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_The_Bomb said:
"Hey why is this rock in the middle of Konoha constantly vibrating?"
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"Huh. It overloaded and exploded right when we were carrying it past the Nara compound. I thought this design was proof against any ambient chakra source short of the Great Seal."

"Hazō, the timing is a complete coincidence and I am pre-emptively forbidding you from further investigation. Also, I would like to invest additional XP in Deceit."
 
Urgent trips to Shika's basement aside, with PS 26 and AB 3, the Rune would give +9 Initiative and Stealth/Genjutsu detection in almost all fights where present and let anyone overseeing it full time roll Examination + 15 - Zone Distance to detect approaching ninja, or Examination + 30 - ZD if they were actively burning chakra (boosting etc). The Tower likely has someone with Examination 40+ and Shadow Clone, which would then be sufficient to detect most sneaking jounin around 15-30 Zones out of every checkpoint depending on how careful they were being.

Since jounin typically move at speeds around ~45m/s (100mph), this is a 15-30s advance warning on anyone unwelcome approaching which is a lifetime for ninja and certainly sufficient to send a signal home (or reverse summon before a Combat Initiative roll can happen).

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Question : Many Seals use Maker's Skill AB for their effects and presumably so would Runes. Is that something we should keep in mind? Or is the intent that it scale with Level/10 or such and PS AB being drastically different from that is an unintended side effect of it scaling off of Sealing lvl? Asking for clarification because the way it is set up currently, we could have PS 26 very very soon, or effective PS 51 without prep, but that would just be AB 3 rather than AB 6, dramatically weakening Rune effects if they scale with AB and not a fraction of the effective level.
 
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Velorien said:
"Huh. It overloaded and exploded right when we were carrying it past the Nara compound. I thought this design was proof against any ambient chakra source short of the Great Seal."

"Hazō, the timing is a complete coincidence and I am pre-emptively forbidding you from further investigation. Also, I would like to invest additional XP in Deceit."
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KEI'S QM: You are not permitted to spend XP right before an important set of rolls. You will roll Deceit 30 against Hazou.

KEI'S QM: *rolls dice*

KEI'S QM: Huh.
 
Crunbum said:
Heh, but I really like the idea of not having Akatsuki / Rock / Color Cabal infiltrate Leaf to abduct our poor protagonist and/or kill the Hokage again!
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How about we just set up a "is this person a ninja" detector at our gates instead of running it over our whole village? We can hide it inside a statue or something.
 
_The_Bomb said:
How about we just set up a "is this person a ninja" detector at our gates instead of running it over our whole village? We can hide it inside a statue or something.
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Well unwelcome ninja can enter through a lot more ways than a gate though haha. Come to think of it, we probably want to build our compound's walls out of Chakra Stone (well, chakra-infused stone), since those reject Hiding Like a Mole and are more durable.

Maybe make a Rune that generates impassable barriers that can only be crossed by those whose chakra signatures they are attuned to? Would basically prevent any non-Gouketsu from entering our Clan Compound and could be used for Tower security too.

But no matter what, I just don't see the village having better, large-scale Chakra Radars manned 24/7 by a Hyuuga with high Examination as something bad, especially if Yamanaka could be trained to use their mind techniques remotely based on the radar pinpointing the target location. Could even use ANBU with Shadow Clones for an instant communication network. Simply put it'd massively tighten village security.
 
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Crunbum said:
Well unwelcome ninja can enter through a lot more ways than a gate though haha. Come to think of it, we probably want to build our compound's walls out of Chakra Stone (well, chakra-infused stone), since those reject Hiding Like a Mole and are more durable.

But no matter what, I just don't see the village having better, large-scale Chakra Radars with high Examination ANBU with Shadow Clones for instant communication manning it 24/7 as something bad.
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Sure, but if we never implemented anything that didn't completely solve a problem we would never get anywhere.

It would massively help Ino with the 'spies constantly infiltrating as civilians' issue she's dealing with.
 
I'd want to work on a Sanitation Rune.

It's going to be difficult, and we'll probably want Mednin 10 first, but lithosealing allows for the same effect at lower TNs.

Between that fact, and Hazou's stupidly high Sealing stat, it should be possible.

I just want time to do Uplift things
 
Oh, we could make a Rune that drains chakra in a large area and only stops draining targets after emptying their coils enough they fall asleep? Now THAT would help the hospital since the doctors would not need to constantly monitor the patients, and it would have obvious combat uses too.
 
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RandomOTP said:
I'd want to work on a Sanitation Rune.

It's going to be difficult, and we'll probably want Mednin 10 first, but lithosealing allows for the same effect at lower TNs.

Between that fact, and Hazou's stupidly high Sealing stat, it should be possible.

I just want time to do Uplift things
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Given our low quantity of substrate I think we should wait to work on any runes until we have PS ~26 or a substrate jutsu.

I know this is not a popular take among many members of the thread. So let me explain.

Every time we research a rune we need to waste substrate on research rolls. We have, at most, 1 ton of the substrate. Enough for as many as 100 infusions. But realistically more like ~50 on the high end, 20 on the lowish.

That means that researching at anything less than max prep/level needlessly wastes irreplaceable substrate.

Which in turn means that it is maximally effective to wait until PS is capped out before doing any research.

PS 26 is 1300 XP away by our current build. Which gives us some time to finish up RRBs and start working on Force Claws and other combat effective seals for our next combat unstag. After that we can pivot to working on runes for the 15500XP barrier.
 
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RandomOTP said:
Didn't Team Lee just drop off several hundred pounds of substrate, and are going back for more? And we've hired Haruhisa to make a substrate jutsu?
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Sir Stompy said:
We have, at most, 1 ton of the substrate. Enough for as many as 100 infusions. But realistically more like ~50 on the high end, 20 on the lowish.
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To answer your second question. Haruhisa is working on it but he might fail to accomplish anything. He seemed apprehensive about it when we talked to him.
 
Sir Stompy said:
Given our low quantity of substrate I think we should wait to work on any runes until we have PS ~26 or a substrate jutsu.

PS 26 is 1300 XP away by our current build. Which gives us some time to finish up RRBs and start working on Force Claws and other combat effective seals for our next combat unstag. After that we can pivot to working on runes for the 15500XP barrier.
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If we start collabing with Oro there is zero chance we wait that long, but maybe he can produce a substrate jutsu if Haruhisa fails
 
_The_Bomb said:
"Hey why is this rock in the middle of Konoha constantly vibrating?"
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Yeah, this is an issue with the current version of chakdar. Once it's going off at all any additional usage wouldn't be noticed. Scaling this up to bigger areas doesn't seem likely to generate useful info since everyone's going to be using chakra near it all the time. Maybe if we could make it only go off for signatures it hasn't detected in the past month or something...?
 
Shrooms said:
Yeah, this is an issue with the current version of chakdar. Once it's going off at all any additional usage wouldn't be noticed. Scaling this up to bigger areas doesn't seem likely to generate useful info since everyone's going to be using chakra near it all the time. Maybe if we could make it only go off for signatures it hasn't detected in the past month or something...?
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It can't even distinguish between different jutsu and now it's going to be able to tell different casters apart?

Seems like people are trying to get the poor casino seals to do too much

Just have a rune that tags every ninja with IFF tag when they go through the gates and if they come back in without a tag it sounds an alarm.
 
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Shrooms said:
Yeah, this is an issue with the current version of chakdar. Once it's going off at all any additional usage wouldn't be noticed. Scaling this up to bigger areas doesn't seem likely to generate useful info since everyone's going to be using chakra near it all the time. Maybe if we could make it only go off for signatures it hasn't detected in the past month or something...?
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But thats only an issue with a Seal due to its 2D nature and resulting space/structural constraints.

If you have a massive 3D Rune and shape it into a transluscent sphere, there is far more space on it to distinguish things by. Specifically, the idea was that it would map out a sphere of space and identify chakra signatures within, then locally glow etc in places corresponding to their locations. As the Rune's shape reflects the detection area (a sphere) exactly, albeit at a tiny scale, the information it outputs would be readable at a glance.

Basically an interactible 3D hologram that tracks nearby chakra sources and their fluctuations as they happen.
 
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BTW next plan can we start doing research again? I think we should do force walls while Hazou is injured, it's chuunin level but the basis for a lot of good weapons. (FW claws for Hazou, Mari, Jin etc, FW shuriken for Kei, etc etc)
 
Shrooms said:
BTW next plan can we start doing research again? I think we should do force walls while Hazou is injured, it's chuunin level but the basis for a lot of good weapons. (FW claws for Hazou, Mari, Jin etc, FW shuriken for Kei, etc etc)
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It is a mere month until our Severe heals. Also, it hurts Rune research way less than Sealing, because Consequence penalties are AB-based, so I think we should work on some basic Runes instead of Seals in the meantime, especially since we just got fresh substrate.

Like a Storage Rune, which should be doable. With ~12 XP/day with FOOM , we are looking at hitting PS 22 within 30 story days, meaning we could squeeze that in and then we would be hitting PS 26 shortly after the Severe heals and be ready for some real Rune/Seal research.
 
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Shrooms said:
BTW next plan can we start doing research again? I think we should do force walls while Hazou is injured, it's chuunin level but the basis for a lot of good weapons. (FW claws for Hazou, Mari, Jin etc, FW shuriken for Kei, etc etc)
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Happy to do so. The meeting with Oro is next plan and that's the last time-critical thing we have to do for a while.
 
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