I think the benefits are likely to be fairly marginal relative to the time spent researching them, and given that, the chance they actually work might not be high enough to justify the FP expenditure. It certainly doesn't now make sense to diff check them unless we're going to research them immediately, I think.
Remember, the benefits are not just for us, but for the entire Leaf attack force. Admittedly this matters much less for folks who don't want to work with Leaf.

I still think it's worthwhile though. I'll leave the shadow clone math to @Sir Stompy but even just a buff for Mari (who disproportionately benefits with the largest reserves and the most expensive build) is a big deal, not to mention the combat benefits for everyone else and the aforementioned FOOM benefits with our unknown but nonzero remaining time
 
I still think it's worthwhile though. I'll leave the shadow clone math to @Sir Stompy but even just a buff for Mari (who disproportionately benefits with the largest reserves and the most expensive build) is a big deal, not to mention the combat benefits for everyone else and the aforementioned FOOM benefits with our unknown but nonzero remaining time
It's about 2-3 XP per day. Pretty damn good. If we have access to it for 100 days, that's 250 extra XP we have in the bank.
 
Ethanol? The term "distilled spirits" seems relevant somehow.
Not at reasonable concentrations. Remember we have to mix whatever we use into the water; it would be impossible to distinguish "this kills the microorganisms in the water" from "adding minimum-a-quarter-volume of pure ethanol stops the effect from working because e.g. chakra doesn't like the change in solvent properties"; and it would probably have to be more, 20% ethanol is not at all reliably biocidal. Plus, we'd need a lot of ethanol, since there has to be enough liquid for someone to bathe in.

Granted, other biocides have the same problem in terms of the "what if chakra doesn't like it" problem, but even the lots-of-salt approach at least doesn't add extra fluid. What we want is something like bleach or peroxide which is active at relatively low concentrations, peroxide being ideal since it decays without leaving anything behind; but we can't get access to those at EN tech level without inventing chemistry. This is why the filter approach would probably be more reliable if we can make fine enough filters, you're not adding anything to the water that could confound your results.
 
20% ethanol is not at all reliably biocidal
For reference, the minimum concentration for biocidal action is 60% as far as safety standards go, and 80-85% is the preferred range for quick action. As for hydrogen peroxide... it mostly does require more chemistry than we have, but it's worth noting that hydrogen peroxide also forms when water is exposed to UV light. It's not an ideal method but it's what we reasonably have access to and could prod Hazopilot to experiment with for the hell of it. The main problem is I don't know if it could reach the necessary concentration- 3% is the usual concentration of household hydrogen peroxide and natural levels of hydrogen peroxide are, in comparison, 1 to 30 micrograms per liter.

As for fine enough filters, low-tech filtering is useful enough to still see use in IRL camping- you mostly just stack a bunch of different materials with varying grain sizes and add cheesecloth or similar. Sand, gravel, charcoal, that sort of stuff. It's quite slow, though.
 
For reference, the minimum concentration for biocidal action is 60% as far as safety standards go, and 80-85% is the preferred range for quick action. As for hydrogen peroxide... it mostly does require more chemistry than we have, but it's worth noting that hydrogen peroxide also forms when water is exposed to UV light. It's not an ideal method but it's what we reasonably have access to and could prod Hazopilot to experiment with for the hell of it. The main problem is I don't know if it could reach the necessary concentration- 3% is the usual concentration of household hydrogen peroxide and natural levels of hydrogen peroxide are, in comparison, 1 to 30 micrograms per liter.
Huh. Did not think of that. Not the peroxide thing, I can guarantee you there's no way we'd make enough of that without boiling the water (which come to think of it would also be worth trying), but UV sterilisation in general would be worth an attempt (though Hazōpilot doesn't know it has that effect and there's no obvious way to let him know). I was too stuck on physical or chemical methods, I guess.

As for fine enough filters, low-tech filtering is useful enough to still see use in IRL camping- you mostly just stack a bunch of different materials with varying grain sizes and add cheesecloth or similar. Sand, gravel, charcoal, that sort of stuff. It's quite slow, though.
Was vaguely aware, the problem is we want to determine the minimum size for which activity is abolished, for which we need filters of consistent pore size - ideally we'd ES a bunch of different permeable minerals. I suppose sand+charcoal would be better than nothing, though.
 
Both current strategies depend on getting RE2.0 and Rift-movers as soon as possible.
So I'm against pausing either to rush Chakra Runes, but as soon as one of them is done, I'm happy to make Chakra Runes the next project we start.
 
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... Come to think of it, does the EN even have the concept of microscopic living things? They talk about sterilizing tools/wounds with medical chakra, but they might just think of that as driving away disease spirits.
FWIW, we have not yet confirmed that the setting does not actually have disease spirits (potentially in place of any and all microorganisms).

I grow more certain (p=~70%) by the year that all this talk of misc. spirits interacting with the physical world, as written in the story text at least, is a double bluff of some sort. We are meant to read it and go "Oh wow, these silly primitive idiots, they don't know about...", but in actuality the framing and our inevitable (and predictable) conclusion is a decent-sized red herring.
 
We've already got a storage seal which selectively grabs toxic chemicals out of the air, shouldn't be too hard to invent one which can collect a hundred liters of 200-proof liquor from a correspondingly larger quantity of cheap beer.

If the effect really is microbe-dependent, even a relatively low concentration of ethanol might measurably disrupt it, as could shifts in temperature or pH. I mean, we're talking about some delicate hothouse flower which out of the whole known world only thrives in one specific cave, not an all-terrain opportunist like staph or tetanus or gangrene.
for which we need filters of consistent pore size - ideally we'd ES a bunch of different permeable minerals
Make a diamond bucket with a grid of perfectly straight and smooth (thus low-turbulence, hopefully high-flow-rate) holes, each just barely wide enough for the tiniest naturally occurring grains of gold dust to fit through?
 
FWIW, we have not yet confirmed that the setting does not actually have disease spirits (potentially in place of any and all microorganisms).

I grow more certain (p=~70%) by the year that all this talk of misc. spirits interacting with the physical world, as written in the story text at least, is a double bluff of some sort. We are meant to read it and go "Oh wow, these silly primitive idiots, they don't know about...", but in actuality the framing and our inevitable (and predictable) conclusion is a decent-sized red herring.
I could buy that the setting does actually have disease spirits; but I think it's astonishingly unlikely that it doesn't have microorganisms. Remember that microorganisms don't just cause disease, they're a key component of every ecosystem on the planet, arguably far more important than multicellular organisms. In order for microorganisms to not exist here, there would either have to have never been a single instance introduced, or there would have to be some kind of global sterilization effect (possibly mediated by ambient chakra); and then on top of that, spirits-or-whatever would have to take over all the processes normally carried out by microbes, like nitrogen fixation and fermentation. I am reluctantly compelled to admit that it probably isn't literally impossible, but I find it only slightly more plausible than physics working differently so that UV light doesn't exist, or air not being liquefiable so that the EM nuke doesn't work.

Also, a note on disease spirits from Oro:
Do infection spirits exist? Proposal: run an ablation study over various interventions for infection. Determine whether spirit-targeted appeasements actually affect patient outcomes.

Won't this mean that some people get intentionally substandard treatment?

Only if disease spirits exist and our current methods actually interact with them. Are you not curious at the claim that there are intangible spirits affecting the function of our bodies in ways that ninjutsu and sealing appear incapable of interacting with? Developing a greater understanding of their operation would be massively impactful for medicine (and of course could help develop better treatments), along with basically anything else attributed to the kami.

Ah, that makes sense. When you frame it that way (the intangible, uninteractible thing), I see where you're coming from in terms of doubting their existence.

Correct.


[several pages later]

Data indicates that infection spirits exist – though I suspect their effect is weaker than most believe, and most of our interventions are ineffective at targeting them. More study is required.
Which suggests to me that some of their interventions are coincidentally effective or partially effective against pathogen spread, and that's what Oro is observing here.

We've already got a storage seal which selectively grabs toxic chemicals out of the air, shouldn't be too hard to invent one which can collect a hundred liters of 200-proof liquor from a correspondingly larger quantity of cheap beer.

If the effect really is microbe-dependent, even a relatively low concentration of ethanol might measurably disrupt it, as could shifts in temperature or pH. I mean, we're talking about some delicate hothouse flower which out of the whole known world only thrives in one specific cave, not an all-terrain opportunist like staph or tetanus or gangrene.
True, but it would be difficult to be certain. I agree I'd expect a hypothetical pool microorganism to be more sensitive to ethanol, because in order for it to effectively enter human chakra systems I'd expect it to lack a cell wall and therefore be much more susceptible to membrane disruption; but we don't know that, and it being restricted to this cave might only indicate it has particular chakra-based requirements, not anything about susceptibility to ethanol. Plus, again, would be hard to distinguish the effect from the change in solvent properties disrupting hypothetical chakra structures.

Might be worth trying as part of a larger series of experiments, though. I admit I hadn't considered that we might be able to measure weakening of the effect rather than just binary effect/no effect.

Make a diamond bucket with a grid of perfectly straight and smooth (thus low-turbulence, hopefully high-flow-rate) holes, each just barely wide enough for the tiniest naturally occurring grains of gold dust to fit through?
That was basically my thinking, though you haven't considered that those pores would become clogged approximately-immediately; we'd need to use a series of progressively-finer filters to avoid that and even then we'd likely have to swap them out for cleaning fairly regularly. Problem is I'm not sure ES has the requisite level of precision; we'd need micrometer-scale pores to exclude bacteria, though somewhat larger pores would probably work if the effect is caused by an amoeba-like thing.
 
Chakra runes have one big downside: we keep having to move, thereby losing all our runes and losing a ton of time and susbtrate remaking them.

I would only bother with chakra runes if we planned on setting up for several months in a single location way off the map. It's not necessarily a bad idea now that we know that our big defensive rune is in fact a Force Sphere if cast aboveground... We could set up the ultimate aerial defensive position and just live there, doing research, being safe.

Do you think we would need to live on skytowers the whole time ? Or could we just stand on the bottom of the force sphere ?
 
The secret-keeping seal from Jiraiya's hoard:
When any creature with chakra that isn't the person that infused the seal touches this seal or the attached seal, both seals burn out and turn to ash.

This suggests that he'd figured out an approach to having a seal destroy another seal that was pretty safe. If we learned that, could we adapt the 'burn out another seal safely' thing to runes?
 
This suggests that he'd figured out an approach to having a seal destroy another seal that was pretty safe. If we learned that, could we adapt the 'burn out another seal safely' thing to runes?
We prepped something like this already.
Prep Demolition Seal. Difficulty result: Jōnin
Prep Demolition Rune. Difficulty result: Hazō thinks this rune is beyond his capabilities.
That said, the "beyond capabilities" result was back when we had effective PS of only 43, so it might now be within our reach. (N.B. For context, the Demolition Seal is a seal that safely burns out other seals, and the Demolition Rune is a rune that safely burns out other runes.)
 
Might be worth trying as part of a larger series of experiments, though. I admit I hadn't considered that we might be able to measure weakening of the effect rather than just binary effect/no effect.
Other interesting things to test: if we storage-seal a bathtub full of cave water, then add a cup or so straight from the pool, does that restart the effect? If so, how quickly? Does that rate vary with, say, stirring? Or temperature? What about if the seal-sterilized water sits in the cave a while, but inside an airtight box of chakra-conductive crystal? Do container materials and/or different temperatures change how long the water retains its properties outside the cave? What's the minimum useful quantity - for example, would soaking a single hand or foot do anything measurable?
 
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Friendly reminder to implement these training plans, thanks!
 
Other interesting things to test: if we storage-seal a bathtub full of cave water, then add a cup or so straight from the pool, does that restart the effect? If so, how quickly? Does that rate vary with, say, stirring? Or temperature? What about if the seal-sterilized water sits in the cave a while, but inside an airtight box of chakra-conductive crystal? Do container materials and/or different temperatures change how long the water retains its properties outside the cave? What's the minimum useful quantity - for example, would soaking a single hand or foot do anything measurable?
All good ideas! (We could also stick the crystal box directly in the water, for that matter.)

If we're going to do this seriously (after we finish the current plotline), I'd note that the first thing we should check is whether we can find some small chakra beast and measure the effect on that. That would a. prevent us from having to lug bathtubs of water around every time we wanted to test anything and b. avoid the risk that one of the things we try causes the pool water to become harmful.
 
All good ideas! (We could also stick the crystal box directly in the water, for that matter.)

If we're going to do this seriously (after we finish the current plotline), I'd note that the first thing we should check is whether we can find some small chakra beast and measure the effect on that. That would a. prevent us from having to lug bathtubs of water around every time we wanted to test anything and b. avoid the risk that one of the things we try causes the pool water to become harmful.
Animal testing makes sense for some questions, but we'd also want to establish a minimum quantity which reliably works on humans to avoid getting tripped up by confounding variables. What if there's some chakra-effect critical mass, or microbiome communal coordination, or something related to surface-to-volume ratio, which causes it to fail at smaller scales? Somewhere between "bathtub" and "flask" could plausibly be a tipping point for that.
Another thing to try as part of such testing would be earthshaping form-fitting tubs so somebody can be submerged in an arbitrarily thin 'shell' of the water. Or... what happens if their skin is coated with a thick layer of grease? That would be a barrier to most water-soluble chemistry, and probably at least slow down microbes, but maybe not chakra.
 
Animal testing makes sense for some questions, but we'd also want to establish a minimum quantity which reliably works on humans to avoid getting tripped up by confounding variables. What if there's some chakra-effect critical mass, or microbiome communal coordination, or something related to surface-to-volume ratio, which causes it to fail at smaller scales? Somewhere between "bathtub" and "flask" could plausibly be a tipping point for that.
Sure, but we could deal with the failing-at-smaller-scales problem just by having a control condition where we stick the animal in the same volume of untreated pool water; if it didn't work, we'd find out on the first experiment if not earlier. Unless I miss your meaning?

Another thing to try as part of such testing would be earthshaping form-fitting tubs so somebody can be submerged in an arbitrarily thin 'shell' of the water. Or... what happens if their skin is coated with a thick layer of grease? That would be a barrier to most water-soluble chemistry, and probably at least slow down microbes, but maybe not chakra.
The form-fitting tubs might be practically difficult to achieve (we don't want to trap people in rigid shells and it's not obvious how a sufficiently form-fitting tub could be taken on and off) but might be worth trying. The grease thing ... I think that'll likely just be negative regardless. If it does work that would be a strong indicator that it's a chakra effect, but I would expect something that prevents skin contact with the water to block the effect either way. Low-priority test, especially given how unpleasant it would be for the testee (if human).

This is why I would want to get a good animal model system set up; it would let us do many more tests with the same resources (minus the test animals themselves), so we could more efficiently do tests like the grease one that we expect not to work. It would also let us explore tests that we wouldn't want to try on a human (ex., cooling the water to ice-cold temperature and using that, or injecting the water into blood/chakra coils/the peritoneal cavity).
 
Interlude: Chosen for the Grave, Part 27
Interlude: Chosen for the Grave, Part 27

I was twenty-seven thousand, four hundred and eighty-nine words into the continuation of The Patchwork Realms, a number that gave me indescribably great delight, when the transdimensional doorway opened once more.

I put Flufflec's pen (still wrote perfectly, still had apparently unlimited ink) down and stood up eagerly. It was undoubtedly Josh, come to pay me for the latest two thousand words. We were doing them in batches so that he wasn't constantly shuttling back and forth to the Out—time was a novel concept to him that he apparently enjoyed dipping in and out of, but it was better for my focus if I could do long blocks of writing uninterrupted by joy-bringing Lego-stepping observation.

"Hey, Josh, good to oh my god, Moni?"

It was indeed not Josh In Time come to provide me with vengeful payment. It was instead Monique, more commonly known to me and a few select friends by her diminutive sobriquet, 'Moni'.

The love of my life, left behind in the other world these long ten years.

She smiled that wicked smile that made my heart light up and then we were in each other's arms again.

She was warm, and curvy in just the right places, and she fit against my body just as well as I remembered. She was an inch or two too tall for me to rest my chin on the top of her head but if I tipped up a little bit I could feel her heat against my throat. My hands slipped automatically to their familiar positions at the back of her head and the small of her back, cradling her close and pressing us together as though to meld us into one flesh. Her long hair had its usual flyaways which tickled my nose in exactly the way I remembered. The scent of it was a long-buried, longed-for memory that sent a host of images and experiences and emotions tumbling through my mind.

She was pressing into me just as much as I was pressing into her, clinging tight and making adorable little noises in the back of her throat that signalled a rightness with the world that had been too long absent and was now banished to the nothingness it deserved.

We separated just enough that she could look up and I could look down and we could lock eyes. She was almost as I remembered her but with ten years more smile lines and a touch more silver among the rich mahogany of her lustrous mane that was floofing out behind her in the crisp fall breeze. She wore a new (to me, at least) example of one of her favorite styles: a scoop-neck cream top leading into a wrap skirt in brilliant oranges and reds with brown ankle boots that had been laced in the, shall we say, quirky and idiosyncratic way I remembered.

There was no time for speech because our lips were locked together. Our mouths opened, tongues touching lightly in remembrance and assent. She tasted the way I remembered: heavy cream with hickory smoke was the closest image I had ever managed to bring to mind, yet still utterly inaccurate. All my words, all my skills and experience as a writer, and I could find only lightning bugs instead of lightning to illuminate the heady flavor of her mouth. It made my head go quiet for the first time in ages, everything else falling away as, for a few blissful moments, she became the only thing in my world.

"What are you doing here?" I asked when we eventually separated. My voice was a husky whisper, too lost in her to speak normally.

She smiled, the lines around her eyes crinkling the way I remembered. "I met a demon," she said. "Phil-something. He offered to send me here and I couldn't say no."

I blinked, running numbers. "It's been ten years here...is it the same back home?"

She nodded. "Mm-hm."

"Tobe is...twenty?"

"Just turned twenty-one," she agreed. "Senior at UT, majoring in graphic arts with a focus in video game design."

"They have a major for video game design?" I asked, pulling back slightly in surprise so that I could see her better. I still kept my hands looped at the small of her back; I think part of me was afraid that if I let go then she would disappear.

"It's a focus within the overall graphic arts major," she said. "He's graduating in a few months and he's already got two job offers. Good offers."

"He's got good genes," I said with a grin.

She wrinkled her nose at me. "And he works hard."

"And he works hard. So Phil offered you a trip to here and you said yes?"

She tucked her head back against my chest and squeezed tight. "Mm-hm."

"He offered you a trip to a horrible death world full of murderous ninja where even the food crops are able and eager to kill you. And you said yes."

She looked up at me, not releasing her grip. "Of course."

I couldn't stop my goofy smile, nor did I try. "Did he offer you superpowers in the bargain? We got superpowers."

"Yup. And he let me choose."

"He let you choose?! We didn't get to choose! He didn't even tell us what we were getting, we had to figure it out. How come you're special—wait, never mind, dumb question. Let me count the ways you are special." I leaned down for another brain-quieting kiss, then leaned back again so neither of us was craning our neck. "What did you get?"

"The ability to talk to anything through music."

I blinked. "That's...interesting." The word 'anything' jolted something loose and I looked around, decade-long reflexes making me check for monsters that might be sneaking up on me. Nothing. My perimeter was still secure. Which, in fairness, wasn't that surprising—I am, after all, the best gorram sealmaster in the world and I had prepared this ground when I came out here to write this morning.

"What are you looking for?"

"Nothing, just checking for critters. Why don't we get you back to Leaf and get you a check-up? When I first got here I got crazy sick. Chakra-enhanced germs are no joke. I had to go on this whole stupid quest to get this stupid rock and have it implanted in me to give me a super regeneration ability. It messed with my head something fierce."

She smiled and nodded, then laced her arm through mine and fell in beside me as I set off. Long habit had our steps in sync so that her right hip and my left stayed together the whole time. (Neither of our hips was lying.)

"You don't want to pack your stuff?" she asked, gesturing to the lawn chair and lap desk and sidetable and hot cocoa and and and...

"It'll be fine. I want to get you to Tsunade ASAP."

She smiled and hummed quietly to herself as she followed along.

o-o-o-o​

"I don't know why you had to waste my time," the Slug Princess complained. "She's fine. If everyone were this healthy I'd be out of a job. But no, you had to go be an ass, cut into my rounds. I have real patients, you know."

"Shut it, Sunny. I know what you have in the hospital right now. She's important to me, and she's more at risk then any of the boo-boos and bruises you need to kiss and make better."

It had taken years before Tsunade and I had developed our relationship to the point where I felt comfortable talking to her so bluntly and she felt comfortable not punching me through a wall when I did. It was a mix of things that allowed it—had she tried, my reactive armor seals would have blasted her into orbit unless she was making a truly serious effort to kill me by using medical chakra spikes to slip between the firing arcs. (I was still working, on and off, to eliminate that small weakness.) On the other side of the coin, my seals had completely revolutionized medicine in Leaf and saved thousands of lives per year. Byakugan-reproduction seals that allowed any doctor to see their patient in the same detail as a trained Hyūga (that one had nearly gotten me assassinated twice by angry clan members), sleep seals that could safely and instantly knock out a patient, chakra-battery seals that could help ninja keep going in a critical situation without burning their chakra coils through overdraw. The list went on and on and it gave me the privilege of lipping off under certain limited circumstances.

"Yeah, yeah," the grumpy doctor said. She flicked her fingers and the green chakra she had been running across Moni's chest poofed away. "You're fine, girl. Don't gargle mud and you won't have any issues. Honestly, you've got the cleanest bill of health I've ever seen. Most people have at least a little bit of sickness trying to get a foothold in them at any given moment. Not you."

Moni smiled her urchin grin, the one that only came out at playful moments, but all she said was "Thank you." She hummed happily to herself as she reached out and squeezed Tsunade's shoulder in gratitude. "You're very kind."

Touching a ninja, especially a ninja of the Sannin's age and prior mission portfolio, was generally the kind of thing that got you murderized. I tensed up, ready to dive forward and put myself and the aforementioned reactive armor seals between my love and the angry doctor.

Amazingly, Tsunade didn't react with sudden and overwhelming violence. She merely looked at Moni's hand, raised an eyebrow, and looked back at my beloved's face with a thoughtful "Hmmm."

"I'm glad to hear things are good," I said, inserting myself as much between them as I could manage. Moni dropped her hand and Tsunade stepped back to allow me in. "We'll come back if anything changes, okay?"

Tsunade rolled her eyes. "Oh, please. Get out of here and stop wasting my time. Honestly." She stumped out of the room, muttering to herself about over-demanding, over-dramatic sealmasters and what a damn nuisance they were.

"So, what would you like to do first?" I asked.

"Picnic?" Moni asked hopefully. "I need to eat pretty soon."

"Sounds good," I said after a moment to think where a safe area might be. "Mama Tanaka sells pre-made baskets. We can pick one up on our way to the city gate."

o-o-o-o​

We were halfway to our destination when Moni pulled up short.

"Let's eat here," she said, looking around at the bucolic scene.

It was a beautiful spot. The trees were silver-barked and spaced wide enough that the afternoon sun trickled happily down through their leaves to bring warmth and light. Lush green grass swept like a welcoming carpet down a slight slope to a flowing creek perhaps six feet wide. Birds were singing somewhere in the trees. There were a few holes that were probably home to roly-poly little gophers.

Of course, the trees were silverbarks, the favorite nesting ground for carnivorous acid ants. The trees and the ants lived in symbiosis; the trees' leaves were razor-sharp and the tree could fling them like shuriken at anything that got too close. The carcass would then be devoured by the ants and the ant poop would fertilize the tree.

The lush grass was mostly just grass but there was a large patch of vampire grass mixed in. The stuff would happily grow into you and drain you dry if you sat too long. Its sap had a soporific and anaesthetic effect that would prevent you from noticing the touch of the plant until it was too late. By the time you were aware of your blood being sucked out you were already unconscious.

The birdsong identified them as eyestealers, natural masters of genjutsu that would keep you unaware of the singers until they had come close enough to pluck the eyeballs from your skull.

The gophers were, of course, fire-breathing carnivores.

"Yeah, this isn't the safest spot," I said. I pointed at each of the threats and explained it.

"Oh," she said, looking surprised. "Okay." She began to sing, the way she often did when she was happy. Her repertoire was vast and I usually didn't recognize what she was singing, but I did this time: Mr Rogers' Neighborhood.

I swear to fucking god, the vampire grass fucking pulled itself out of the ground and marched up the slope to our left, leaving a rich carpet of actually safe grass near the creek. The birdsong stopped for a moment, then resumed. The trees swayed, their leaves rustling, and then went still.

And a fucking gopher popped out of its hole and gave us a gorram thumbs up before diving back underground.

"What."

"What?" she said, cocking her head. "I asked them to be friendly and not bother us."

"You...asked them to be friendly and not bother us."

"Mm-hm. Did I see vegetarian spring rolls in that basket?"





Author's Note: Eagle-eyed readers might draw the conclusion that I have a guest in town this weekend and thus could not write an actual update. Said readers are brilliant and perspicacious.

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"The ability to talk to anything through music."
She smiled and hummed quietly to herself as she followed along.
Moni smiled her urchin grin, the one that only came out at playful moments, but all she said was "Thank you." She hummed happily to herself as she reached out and squeezed Tsunade's shoulder in gratitude. "You're very kind."
AAAAAHHHHHHH!

So, this entity can "talk to anything through music". We see that that includes controlling chakra beasts:
I swear to fucking god, the vampire grass fucking pulled itself out of the ground and marched up the slope to our left, leaving a rich carpet of actually safe grass near the creek. The birdsong stopped for a moment, then resumed. The trees swayed, their leaves rustling, and then went still.

And a fucking gopher popped out of its hole and gave us a gorram thumbs up before diving back underground.

We also note that she hums to Tsunade, and right after that Tsunade displays abnormal behaviour.
Moni smiled her urchin grin, the one that only came out at playful moments, but all she said was "Thank you." She hummed happily to herself as she reached out and squeezed Tsunade's shoulder in gratitude. "You're very kind."

Touching a ninja, especially a ninja of the Sannin's age and prior mission portfolio, was generally the kind of thing that got you murderized. I tensed up, ready to dive forward and put myself and the aforementioned reactive armor seals between my love and the angry doctor.

Amazingly, Tsunade didn't react with sudden and overwhelming violence. She merely looked at Moni's hand, raised an eyebrow, and looked back at my beloved's face with a thoughtful "Hmmm."

So her ability probably works on humans, and she probably used it on Tsunade. We don't know what the limits are, but it seems highly extensive; it doesn't seem at all implausible that it might include memory modification. Given that, it's not certain that this entity actually is Moni, as opposed to someone else (or something else) who edited Earl's memory so he'd think it was his partner - or even, for that matter, rewrote Earl's memory so he remembered having a partner who never actually existed.

Either way, "Moni" may well have suborned Earl, Tsunade, and an unknown number of other ninja. As if that weren't bad enough, we also get this anomaly:
"Yeah, yeah," the grumpy doctor said. She flicked her fingers and the green chakra she had been running across Moni's chest poofed away. "You're fine, girl. Don't gargle mud and you won't have any issues. Honestly, you've got the cleanest bill of health I've ever seen. Most people have at least a little bit of sickness trying to get a foothold in them at any given moment. Not you."
The obvious explanation for which is that her ability to talk to anything with music lets her control pathogens. In the best case, that would be a highly limited ability the scariest use of which would be accelerating a preexisting plague. In the worst case, that means complete biokinesis.

And that's just the stuff we've been shown. What if "talk to anything" includes "talk to chakra and tell it to enact seal effects"? Or worse, seal failure effects?

In summary: Moni may or may not actually be Earl's partner, is probably willing and able to use mind control, has probably applied that control to Tsunade and maybe Earl as well, and in general is likely an immediate threat to everyone in Leaf. I suppose we'll have to wait for the next chapter of CfG to see whether anyone will manage to realize this and escape her.

(Also, thanks for the chapter, and have a good weekend!)
 
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