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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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T_of_A said:
How many years does it take to learn to read ? Does the EN have an alphabet, or is it all ideograms ?
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IIRC it's all ideograms ie. kanji. Katakana and hiragana emerged in the mid-late 9th and early 9th century in Japan and I think the EN is a little behind.

No foreign words to express for katakana, so we'd be talking hiragana only. It might exist...

That said, it probably takes a year+ to learn to write ENese. All the English language stuff I'm seeing says 3-6 months for illiterate people to learn to write, it follows that a language that is primarily based on kanji is significantly harder.

It's a total waste of time IMO
 
Sir Stompy said:
IIRC it's all ideograms ie. kanji. Katakana and hiragana emerged in the mid-late 9th and early 9th century in Japan and I think the EN is a little behind.

No foreign words to express for katakana, so we'd be talking hiragana only. It might exist...

That said, it probably takes a year+ to learn to write ENese. All the English language stuff I'm seeing says 3-6 months for illiterate people to learn to write, it follows that a language that is primarily based on kanji is significantly harder.

It's a total waste of time IMO
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ENese has kana, actually. They were mentioned only recently in Chapter 704.

We haven't been explicit on whether there are separate hiragana and katakana syllabaries (I think), but note that the foreign word element isn't really relevant. Historically, both syllabaries are associated with the same source: hiragana emerged as a way of writing Chinese characters, while katakana emerged as a way of annotating them.
 
Velorien said:
ENese has kana, actually. They were mentioned only recently in Chapter 704.

We haven't been explicit on whether there are separate hiragana and katakana syllabaries (I think), but note that the foreign word element isn't really relevant. Historically, both syllabaries are associated with the same source: hiragana emerged as a way of writing Chinese characters, while katakana emerged as a way of annotating them.
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Ahh thanks for pointing that out. I completely missed the mention. Interesting that such a thing exists when there are no foreign influences on EN culture. Perhaps all the crack ideas about this setting being post-apocalyptic Japan hold water 🤔
 
Sir Stompy said:
IIRC it's all ideograms ie. kanji. Katakana and hiragana emerged in the mid-late 9th and early 9th century in Japan and I think the EN is a little behind.

No foreign words to express for katakana, so we'd be talking hiragana only. It might exist...

That said, it probably takes a year+ to learn to write ENese. All the English language stuff I'm seeing says 3-6 months for illiterate people to learn to write, it follows that a language that is primarily based on kanji is significantly harder.

It's a total waste of time IMO
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This has been wondering if someone in the afterlife has made a phonetic alphabet
 
Velorien said:
PEASANT: But what would we read? There aren't any books in the afterlife.

HAZŌ: You're right, I'll have to write you something from memory. Say, does "Icha Icha" mean anything to you?
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All joking asid,because of the fact that everyone's memories are literally being actively eaten, even with a strong oral tradition, it still would be a push for A Writing system

writing is designed to last a long time, It's also wouldn't be a memory So it wouldn't be eaten ( Well, Usually)
 
I really like @Sir Stompy's idea of becoming a lifesinger. We could store so many stories in the IN, with no deterioration (hopefully), and we could make them whole multimedia displays too, with acting and props, like the best oral storytellers of irl history. It would help keep those stories and memories alive, which is in keeping with Hazou's goals and ideals. It would give us a reason to travel, a reason to seek out new stories and tell old stories in the hopes of jogging a few old memories loose from the locals, a possible lead to Akane or Jiraiya.

This feels like the path Hazou would take if he had no immediate hope of escaping the afterlife, if he didn't know of the rift, and it might be good to pretend to be that person for now, if we don't want knowledge of the rift to spread while we're unsure of what Orochimaru is doing to it.

It also might be a direction to take to lean into the social side of IN; maybe we won't learn the Kurosawa IN Social Stunt, but we could make our own, one more suited to us and where we're going and what we're doing.
 
Anqied said:
We could store so many stories in the IN, with no deterioration (hopefully), and we could make them whole multimedia displays too, with acting and props, like the best oral storytellers of irl history.
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Hazō's got various lighting seals that'd come in handy for this. Developing more specific ones for shows would be fun (of course research is hard to come by right now. Perhaps it's easy enough that he can get it done while traveling the roads off-screen, gulping shimmers as needed)
 
Sir Stompy said:
Paperclipped said:
Hazō has 162 CP at present.
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Velorien said:
Hazō was nearly full on chakra,
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Did Hazou spend most of his chakra on something not in the update? Or is this the kind of drain we can expect from a few days without taking more shimmers in?
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped I just wanted to confirm that this under discussion and didn't get lost in the post-update shuffle. Losing ~200 CP to drain over the course of a few days(?) at most is quite concerning.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Velorien on Mar 26, 2025 at 8:23 AM, finished with 45 posts and 10 votes.
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