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I wouldn't adopt Honoka until our finance doesn't depend on Hazo sweating it out in his workshop.

Between Hagoromo (with ISC contribution) and the mortgage Hazou/Kagome only need to spend about 40 hours smithing Skywalkers per month. Slightly more than an hour each day isn't much of a burden for Hazou of the Iron Nerve, he can literally do it absentmindedly while doing something else - like eating dinner.

Also, even without another source of income, we're economically solvent for at least 10 more months.

It would make Kagome happy, show him we value his happiness, and hopefully pushes off the day he throws a tantrum for being used as a seal workhorse (since he still needs to infuse them all).
 
Between Hagoromo (with ISC contribution) and the mortgage Hazou/Kagome only need to spend about 40 hours smithing Skywalkers per month. Slightly more than an hour each day isn't much of a burden for Hazou of the Iron Nerve, he can literally do it absentmindedly while doing something else - like eating dinner.

Also, even without another source of income, we're economically solvent for at least 10 more months.

It would make Kagome happy, show him we value his happiness, and hopefully pushes off the day he throws a tantrum for being used as a seal workhorse (since he still needs to infuse them all).
Infusing them is a matter of about a minute a day, if that.
 
Sometimes you have to accept compromises in order to continue being menaced by unscrupulous politicians, deadly chakra beasts, even deadlier sealing failures, and whatever else it is you people come here for.
Yes, but that only gets the thread unlocked again, and then there's also the events happening in the story to sorry about.
 
I have been told that today's update is Sunday's update. So I think we should start writing a plan to take care of Amori, and whatever deal they want.
 
Ahahahah, Hiashi and us doing the same thing with Tsunade. The difference, of course, is that our support for her med nin is not conditional.
Which means that she should support Hiashi. That way she gets his help and our help, too.
How do people feel about trying to set up a debate with Hiashi? If we can egg him into talking about his elitist views in front of the more moderate clans, without coming off as insane ourselves, that might drive moderates like the Aburame away from him.
I am not confident that the clans, who have set the country's political system up so that they rule the country, and who have continued to rule the country since it was founded, will be dismayed by Lord Hyuga saying "I think that clan ninja should rule the country."
 
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What I assured you was that there was a reason Hiashi was willing to put effort into scheduling votes for when Naruto was out of town. To my mind, the most plausible reason is that there's a clause in the voting laws that allows bypassing the age requirement IF literally no clan members are 15.
I kinda figured it would be more like there's no one who really wants to say 'no' to the army in an orange jumpsuit.

Even otherwise, the Uchiha had a civilian voting for them for years.
This never really made sense to me. The Uchiha (presumably ninja) elders were spared, why not them?
 
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Anyway, I'd prefer we didn't adopt Honoka at all, unless we are able to use political pressures to let them adopt us without her counting towards that limit. While it's true that we could have Naruto, as the Uzumaki Clan Head, adopt her family into the Uzumaki before they all migrade to the Gouketsu, a lot of clan ninja are gonna see it as us manipulating the rules, which may lead to worsened relations.

We could do this with grown clanless ninja: have Naruto adopt two of them, then we adopt all of them to get two additionnal adoption slots. Of course this wouldn't be free: it would lead to worsened relations as you said. But there would be a sizeable benefit as well in ninjapower. Moreover, it's not something we can repeat (except if we find another dying clan eager to merge into the Gōketsu...), so maybe the clans wouldn't act too much against it. All in all, we're probably not desperate enough to do this, but it looks like something to at least consider.

Alternatively, we could offer these two adoption slots to the Uchiha. They might be able to better endure the political cost.
 
After all, it's not like Tsunade has a dying clan with adoption slots that are just going to waste.

A thought just occured to me: there are 2 dying founding clans that probably do little to no missions. Hence, Tower receives all of their conditional payments. Each month. For years.

The Tower should be stinking rich atm.
 
Yes, but that only gets the thread unlocked again, and then there's also the events happening in the story to sorry about.
Common misapprehension. The thread was unlocked purely because the mods decided that we hadn't violated the SV rules. It wasn't a matter of negotiation. What I mean by "compromise" is that we the QMs then collectively chose to nuke the Uchiha deal as a compromise between the simulation and our sanity.

Would you drop it if the lockdown and investigation hadn't happened?
Why would we have? There was nothing wrong with the deal in and of itself (or the thread would have stayed locked). The thing we should have done differently was to police the thread ourselves rather than waiting for the mods to hand out infractions.
 
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Common misapprehension. The thread was unlocked purely because the mods decided that we hadn't violated the SV rules. It wasn't a matter of negotiation. What I mean by "compromise" is that we the QMs then collectively chose to nuke the Uchiha deal as a compromise between the simulation and our sanity.

Why would we have? There was nothing wrong with the deal in and of itself (or the thread would have stayed locked). The thing we should have done differently was to police the thread ourselves rather than waiting for the mods to hand out infractions.
I'm confused now. The mods decided the deal was fine per SV rules, and nevertheless mod intervention led to the decision to nuke the deal? I don't see how a leads to b.
 
The thing we should have done differently was to police the thread ourselves
Sheesh, honestly you souud like an abused wife.
We have lost so many cool characters and plot possibilities because "muh simulationism" and now it's not even consistent. Since we don't care about the simulation anymore and votes don't matter, can we please get orochimaru and jiraya back?
Ir even better, If I become a mod can I force you to bring Oro back?
 
Sheesh, honestly you souud like an abused wife.
We have lost so many cool characters and plot possibilities because "muh simulationism" and now it's not even consistent. Since we don't care about the simulation anymore and votes don't matter, can we please get orochimaru and jiraya back?
Ir even better, If I become a mod can I force you to bring Oro back?
Not fucking helpful, buddy.
 
Sheesh, honestly you souud like an abused wife.
We have lost so many cool characters and plot possibilities because "muh simulationism" and now it's not even consistent. Since we don't care about the simulation anymore and votes don't matter, can we please get orochimaru and jiraya back?
Ir even better, If I become a mod can I force you to bring Oro back?

This post is pretty uncalled for dude. Why that shitty and offensive comparison? The hell is up with the rest of it? Smh.



I don't think the QMs want the thread to derail to talk about the thread lock. I'm pretty sure they would rather we discuss the actual story. How about we do that?

Here's something to chew on even if its not plan related (perhaps you can't find the spoons to plan atm, O reader):

Sometimes, you have to reach out and touch someone," Keiko said distantly. "Even if the gap seems unbridgeable and you have no means of navigation… I think you have to enter that space of uncertainty in order to learn that you are capable of something more."

I'm pretty sure this is my favorite quote from the story. Easily breaks top 3, at the least.

What's yours?
 
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I'm confused now. The mods decided the deal was fine per SV rules, and nevertheless mod intervention led to the decision to nuke the deal? I don't see how a leads to b.
Suppose you're an athlete who gets accused of doping. The medical commission checks you out and eventually decides it was a false alarm. Don't you think the experience would influence how you perform immediately afterwards?
 
Suppose you're an athlete who gets accused of doping. The medical commission checks you out and eventually decides it was a false alarm. Don't you think the experience would influence how you perform immediately afterwards?
'Fraid I don't have the experience set to relate to what you're saying, but I've got no complaints. I was just confused. Personally, I'm fine with the deal getting nuked--I was against it from the beginning.
 
Warning: Let's not
Sheesh, honestly you souud like an abused wife.
We have lost so many cool characters and plot possibilities because "muh simulationism" and now it's not even consistent. Since we don't care about the simulation anymore and votes don't matter, can we please get orochimaru and jiraya back?
Ir even better, If I become a mod can I force you to bring Oro back?

let's not
I don't think this is productive. Have a week off from the thread.
 
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail

How do we claim the 5 XP point bounty?

Also, here are the questions from the first section(Clan finance). Let discuss answers.
  • Who owns our home loan?
  • How much does the Tower have for seals/month?
  • When does the monthly seal budget refresh? (To have someone camping out.)
  • And Kenta's carpentry business, particularly including the investment we're planning to expand it and, unless I'm mistaken, the talk about branching out into construction.
  • How many hours (and what other things) did we get as part of Keiko's bride price?
  • Shikaku died before the wedding, so are a large portion of the hours worthless (because they would have been his)? Or would they be hours from "The Nara head," so as to prevent problems like this from arising?
  • How much money Naruto has and incoming revenue/expense?
  • How much money are we getting From Kenta's business?
  • How much did we invested in Kenta's business?

Some questions may need to be modified or broken down into further subquestions.
 
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