So, if we get a combat unstagnations from our part, we eat the med notes to try and be able to maintain our own extra coil, right? I'd rather not rely on Orochimaru, but getting to keep the coil would be cool. And it if Oro has a couple of these, it explains how he took that insane amount of Chakra at once. Just has a bunch of energy tanks he refills over time.

Hopefully the second coil doesn't make TH harder. But I will say that being about to summon a chunin/jonin dog and still having enough Chakra to properly fight would put our threat rating higher (and boost my desire to level a decent AoE jutsu like BRI.)
I'd be interested in seeing if we can rope Tsunade into overseeing the maintenance operation without pissing off any essies too much. She might not be able to understand all the minutia of biosealing, but at least she's a medical expert who can see through Oro's bullshit.
 
I was just thinking, but, are combat exp similar to lootbox exp for Sealing etc a thing? Like by participating in a significant battle at QM's discretion characters can get exp spendable only on combat things.

Apologies if this has been asked before. I thought that a mechanism akin to this would make the Swamp of Death 1 year mass Jonin speedrun at least theoratically possible.
 
[X] Action Plan: Aftermath

[X] Hazō Training Plan: Sorry Ino, It's Time To Go ACE
[X] Kei Training Plan: ACE II
[X] Noburi Training Plan: ACE III


I note, just as an afterthought reading the plan, that Orochimaru is unlikely to personally go into the dimension of eats-your-seals. He's more bioseal than biology at this point and does not yet have any way to stop the Pure Lands from draining all of them dry. Best case, a massive unnecessary pain infusing new ones. Worst case, bioseal failure. And sending in a SC isn't going to do much good either, so odds are he just abstains for now.
 
[X] Action Plan: Aftermath

[X] Hazō Training Plan: Sorry Ino, It's Time To Go ACE
[X] Kei Training Plan: ACE II
[X] Noburi Training Plan: ACE III


I note, just as an afterthought reading the plan, that Orochimaru is unlikely to personally go into the dimension of eats-your-seals. He's more bioseal than biology at this point and does not yet have any way to stop the Pure Lands from draining all of them dry. Best case, a massive unnecessary pain infusing new ones. Worst case, bioseal failure. And sending in a SC isn't going to do much good either, so odds are he just abstains for now.
Does this mean Hazou can't explore the Rift? Feels bad
 
So, if we get a combat unstagnations from our part, we eat the med notes to try and be able to maintain our own extra coil, right? I'd rather not rely on Orochimaru, but getting to keep the coil would be cool. And it if Oro has a couple of these, it explains how he took that insane amount of Chakra at once.
It will take a month to learn Biosealing and someone will need to teach Hazou. Probably not getting around at least one check up from Dr snuncle
 
[X] Action Plan: Aftermath

Make a Rift-Opener -- use the 25 point size.
  • Open the Rift and grab Deidara (if possible), have Noburi drain him to keep him unconscious.
  • Killbox the exit, and send the Sannin in first.
  • Observe to see if most of the slain ninja ended up near the Rift.
Please specify that we pull one person out and keep them alive (but Noburi drained if nessecary) long-term. We can haul them back to Leaf and stick them in a cell or whatever, but we need to study the long-term effects of rift resurrection ASAP, so we can learn about and deal with any problems early with an expendable subject, rather than debugging live on our heros and friends.

(Also, I want to learn if this is a safe way to un-bioseal our boy.)
 
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Please specify that we pull one person out and keep them alive (but Noburi drained if nessecary) long-term. We can haul them back to Leaf and stick them in a cell or whatever, but we need to study the long-term effects of rift resurrection ASAP, so we can learn about and deal with any problems early with an expendable subject, rather than debugging live on our heros and friends
Even if no Deidara? What if it's completely deserted? Do we go hunting? I'm feeling pretty member ambivalent about this.
 
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So, incidentally, we're moving the rift to Leaf, yeah? And it's plausible that the mapping between Paths is one-to-one, such that people who die in Leaf will all cluster in the same general location in the Pure Lands, near where the rift opens up to within Leaf? If so...
  • Jiraiya died a long way away from Leaf and will not be easy to retrieve
  • Akane died a long way away from Leaf and will not be easy to retrieve
  • Hiruzen died a long way away from Leaf and will not be easy to retrieve
But you know who did die in Leaf? Right here in the center of the village, not even all that long ago? That's right, it's time for the Most Youthful Hokage to return! And Asuma I guess.
 
So, incidentally, we're moving the rift to Leaf, yeah? And it's plausible that the mapping between Paths is one-to-one, such that people who die in Leaf will all cluster in the same general location in the Pure Lands, near where the rift opens up to within Leaf? If so...
  • Jiraiya died a long way away from Leaf and will not be easy to retrieve
How much extra delay and strategic risk would it be to haul the rift to the site of the Battle of the Gods?
If Jiraya, and a bunch of other folks with experience fighting Akatsuki all-out, are somehow all still standing around near there, that could be a very big, immediate step in bending Leaf's attrition curve back toward "net gain."
If Pain's there too, which seems extra unlikely but not completely ridiculous? He already seemed to think an uninjured Tsunade could take him in a fair fight. After her dragon-related unstagnation, plus Oro, plus the element of surprise and a zoo rush worth of fully-charged shadow clones, vs. Pain with amnesia and no chakra at all... seems like it'd be a curbstomp. Probably some way to capture and coerce him into ordering surviving Akatsuki members to stand down.
 
I note, just as an afterthought reading the plan, that Orochimaru is unlikely to personally go into the dimension of eats-your-seals. He's more bioseal than biology at this point and does not yet have any way to stop the Pure Lands from draining all of them dry. Best case, a massive unnecessary pain infusing new ones. Worst case, bioseal failure. And sending in a SC isn't going to do much good either, so odds are he just abstains for now.
I think I've seen at least one person theorize that the way Oro survived Nagi Island was by having a backup clone. Something about certain memories not lining up? If true, this has two repercussions on the Rift business. One, Orochimaru might either break OPSEC on that or secretly swap in a clone to explore the afterlife in his stead. And two, there might already be at least one Orochimaru in the afterlife.
Akane died a long way away from Leaf and will not be easy to retrieve
How far from Leaf did Akane die? My memory says that she died somewhere in Fire Country, but Fire Country is big.
 
You know there's every possibility that people in the afterlife can move away from where they first appeared, and could be anywhere by now.

There's also a possibility that the people in the afterlife can interact with each other, and so leaf ninja who died near leaf have a sort of undead city counterpart so they can hear news about the living world from each new death. This could lead to... interesting things, if Jiraiya's struggle to remember himself is any indication. Leaf heroes last longer near leaf as each new arrival reminds them about who they were.

I wonder what happens with, say, earth ninja who die near leaf? Do they set aside their living loyalties in the face of an afterlife that wants to wipe them away, and stay near the very people they once had a hand in killing? Are they turned away, left to wander and disappear in the wilderness of the pure lands? Or perhaps the irate leaf ninja keep them around for... malicious reasons. Taking revenge in death, indefinitely, for what was done before.

Of course, it could be that they can't see each other, or their location is randomized and Daizen was a Jashin-influenced coincidence, and we'll have quite the search effort on our hands. It could be interesting if two spirits stood near each other, and Hazo could interact with them both but they remained ignorant of each other. Or I suppose it could be the opposite of interesting in practice, a novelty at first but one that limits our ability to interact with it.

It could also be that instead of starting from scratch with search parties entering the rift, we could literally just talk to the people already living residing there, and they can set up search parties themselves instead of being rescued/revived immediately.
 
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If we keep voting for 'Armageddon initiative', has the meaning changed to 'lock a region inside a force dome and blow it tf up' now? There's precedent.

If you want to destroy the Elemental nations, you might have to swap to like, 'Doomsday initiative' or something.
 
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So to be clear, Deidara's ability to avoid the Sannin clones, the RER flak blasts and Enma's staff for as long as he did was not due to game mechanics? It was due to considerations to make the chapter of his being stomped narratively satisfying?
Correct.

Did Hazoupilot monitor the rubble for survivors with Ninja Radar? Do we need to additionally specify that he should do this?
Hazō sees no blips on the Ninja-Radar that don't correspond to allies. Any blips that he previously saw were reported to the Sannin and quickly killed. Hazō can't rule out that there are ninja below 100 CP or civilians somewhere in the rubble or the woods.


I don't think so. Unless someone knows how many Zones the fortress was...
We never actually discussed it, but ponwog95 it fit into a single zone. That makes the most sense narratively and in terms of how zones and positioning work, as well as with how the RER blasts work.
I was just thinking, but, are combat exp similar to lootbox exp for Sealing etc a thing? Like by participating in a significant battle at QM's discretion characters can get exp spendable only on combat things.

Apologies if this has been asked before. I thought that a mechanism akin to this would make the Swamp of Death 1 year mass Jonin speedrun at least theoratically possible.
Am talking about the first part with the other QMs; it's an interesting idea and I like that it helps align QM and player incentives, but I suspect that the answer is going to be no since we are already concerned about XP inflation and feeling like we made a mistake with loot boxes in the first place.

As to the second part: it's safe to assume that Shikigami was full of crap and simply giving an inspiring speech.
Even if no Deidara? What if it's completely deserted? Do we go hunting? I'm feeling pretty member about this.
Member?
 
The RERs didn't destroy the Sealing facility, right? The one protected by all the seals? We should get a look at the seals for our own use. If they can stand up to RERs, then they're work incorporating into our own defenses.

(It's okay, QMs, I can propose mechanics to build from, so please don't cry too hard ;> )
 
As to the second part: it's safe to assume that Shikigami was full of crap and simply giving an inspiring speech.
To expand on this, even with the proposed model, it's unclear to me where you'd get enough lootboxes in a year at the Swamp of Death--Shikigami would still assign his genin to the easiest missions available (even if those missions were harder than you'd get back in Mist), and the first year would be the one where Hidden Swamp most needed to avoid big moves that would draw attention from the outside world.
 
The RERs didn't destroy the Sealing facility, right? The one protected by all the seals? We should get a look at the seals for our own use. If they can stand up to RERs, then they're work incorporating into our own defenses.

(It's okay, QMs, I can propose mechanics to build from, so please don't cry too hard ;> )
I am in awe. You have absolutely blown me away.
 
Hmm. Maybe we can look at the Pangolin scroll safely, since we already downloaded it? Probably best not to try right now, though.

(At some point, when we can afford to take a mental Severe, we should really read the Dog Scroll. But that's quite far in the future, given how much stuff we have to do.)

Does Cannai or older dogs knows anything about it? He's friendly.
 
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