RWBY Thread III: Time To Say Goodbye

Stop: So gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
so gotta few things that need to be said real quick.
We get a lot of reports from this thread. A lot of it is just a series of people yelling at each other over arguments that have been rehashed hundreds of times since the end of the recent Volume. And I get that the last Volume - and RWBY in general, really - has some controversial moments that people will want to discuss, argue about, debate, etc.

That's fine. We're not going to stop people from doing that, because that's literally what the point of the thread is. However, there's just a point where it gets to be a bit too much, and arguments about whether or not Ironwood was morally justified in his actions in the recent Volume, or if RWBY and her team were in the right for withholding information from Ironwood out of distrust, or whatever flavor of argument of the day descend into insulting other posters, expressing a demeaning attitude towards other's opinions, and just being overall unpleasant. That tends to happen a lot in this thread. We want it to stop happening in this thread.

So! As of now the thread is in a higher state of moderation. What that means is that any future infractions will result in a weeklong boot from the thread, and repeated offenders will likely be permanently removed. So please, everyone endeavor to actually respect the other's arguments, and even if you strongly disagree with them please stay civil and mindful when it comes to responding to others.

In addition, users should refrain from talking about off-site users in the thread. Bear in mind that this does not mean that you cannot continue to post tumblr posts, for example, that add onto the discussion in the thread, with the caveat that it's related to RWBY of course. But any objections to offsite users in the thread should be handled via PM, or they'll be treated as thread violations and infracted as such.
 
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I mean they're already in the military. You usually don't ask for volunteers when dealing with soldiers going to the front.
No they're not. They're Atlas Academy students, which highly encourages it's graduates to join the military, but which is ostensibly not a part of. That's part of the whole reason the Huntsmen Academies were first established, so that there could be protectors against the Grimm who wouldn't be ordered away during times of war or strife (gee how's that working out, Mantle?).
 
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No they're not. Then Atlas Academy students, which highly encourages it's graduates to join the military, but which is ostensibly not a part of. That's part of the whole reason the Huntsmen Academies were first established, so that there could be protectors against the Grimm who wouldn't be ordered away during times of war or strife (gee how's that working out, Mantle?).
That and the Academies were made with the intent of defending the Relics. So, really, Ironwood is doing exactly what Ozpin had intended.
 
No they're not. They're Atlas Academy students, which highly encourages it's graduates to join the military, but which is ostensibly not a part of. That's part of the whole reason the Huntsmen Academies were first established, so that there could be protectors against the Grimm who wouldn't be ordered away during times of war or strife (gee how's that working out, Mantle?).
Except it's outright stated that Ironwood merged the Academy with the Military.
 
That and the Academies were made with the intent of defending the Relics. So, really, Ironwood is doing exactly what Ozpin had intended.

Probably had more of the staff doing the defending in mind and the students being a last recourse.


Except it's outright stated that Ironwood merged the Academy with the Military.

Which;
1 - Has earned him numerous dirty looks from the other kingdoms.
2 - We still have examples of graduates NOT joining the military (Happy Huntresses).
 
2 - We still have examples of graduates NOT joining the military (Happy Huntresses).
Pretty sure that's a) an example of cadets leaving the military, not not joining it, and b) unlawful (which is why they're persecuted and also have no compunction about committing other crimes).
 
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If Ironwood didn't want Robin Hood to attack his transports, he shouldn't have stolen critical supplies from the defense of the poor. That's a surefire way to get any Robin Hood themed character to take up arms against your evil.

Are people still hung up on Adam? Like it's been two volumes, are Adam stans still watching or are they just randomly whining? Is eruptionfang just randomly whining about adam whike talking about cinder and penny's fight? Adam stans are bad enough but enduring Adam stans are just why?

Because some people think looking 'cool' is a blanket forgiveness for shitty behaviour.
 
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Here's some bits of last week's script that were trimmed for time


Trimmed for pacing's sake (or with respect to the last one, because it added nothing but a poop joke and some stilted dialogue) maybe, but not time. The staff doesn't have to fit episodes into timeslots.
 
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The very evil act of... warning the entire world of an evil threat and re-establishing communications.

Wait...

Well, I was thinking deliberately failing to protect the people it's your duty to protect, but-

Just gonna ignore the whole "Robbing poor people and leaving them to die, even though he could get what he needs from Atlas or through trade, or could at least actually protect Mantle but chooses not to" details aren't cha?

- Mantle has always been an acceptable sacrifice for Ironwood and those that kiss his boots.
 
The very evil act of... warning the entire world of an evil threat and re-establishing communications.

Wait...

And in looking to a "big picture" he disregarded the "small picture". He broke trust. He broke communication. And the real enemy USED it. Slipped in through his blind spots.
You can send a grand message, but if the people do not trust you that message will not be heard.
 
And then, when the literal giant whale arrives and destroys their city, they realize "oh, we probably should have heard that message. Whoops."

And that will not totally be the fault of the people, because again it was Ironwood that strained and broke that trust.

Also, this is why it's a good thing that RUBY, not Ironwood, was the one to get the message out. She is young, but has connections currently in every corner of Remnant that will vouch for her. Her image is not well known, but it is unmarred unlike Ironwood's. Ruby has earned the trust of those who know her through her actions.
 
You know, it's interesting. We've seen this volume just how badly Ironwood overestimated his armies capabilities, but really, the evidence his plan wouldn't have worked was always there, from before he told the heroes about it. Mantle, and the armies inability to police it, or defend it. The episode before he spoke of the plan we saw that the resources assigned to it were very insufficent (A few droids taken down by Beowolves) and there was a lack of care about the actual people by the higher ups (Aceops not fighting Grimm, but instead arresting the heroes without any actual evidence of their lawbreaking). And it continues on, from Robyn Hill calling Clover out on the transports stealing resources only to be brushed aside, the situation against government inaction reaching the point of outright riots and companies blacklisting the mitiltary... and all this was before the heat was turned off.

And Ironwood thought his military would fly to every kingdom and put down unrest?
 
And Ironwood thought his military would fly to every kingdom and put down unrest?
Even worse he would have been splitting his military's strength in the process. As due to his overconfidence he'd no doubt be intending to go to every kingdom at the same time to drop the Salem bomb.

We saw how well his fleet was able to handle defending Mantle even before Salem showed up. Split four ways? The Kingdoms would be dead.
 
2 fics of a villain being given a chance and my short synop of them
In the Aftermath - The_Escaped - RWBY [Archive of Our Own]
After escaping Salem and her whale, JYRO and Emerald take shelter in an outpost to catch their breath and heal up. Lets see how Yang handles their new addition.

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own
depowered and de-armed, Cinder still lives after Ruby rescues her. Let's see how Cinder handles Ruby's kindness and here belief of "everyone deserves a second chance".

Personally, I hope Cinder, Emerald, Neo and Mercury all survive the show.
Just for the hell of it.
 
if team CMEN do live to the end of the show, what do we think and what do we hope they will be up to?


Personally I hope they run together after working out at least SOME of their issues.
Yes Cinder is a toxic bitch, but one has to start somewhere if they want to be "better".
 
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