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Graphic Timeline of the Quest
Over the past couple days I've been trawling through the timeline docs and noting every major event in the quest, in order to assemble this visual timeline of MfD:

Each row covers 100 chapters, and each line is either a major event or something that we might care to know the timeframes of. For instance, it is now a lot easier to figure out when the Pangolin deal started, expanded, and ended. On the bottom side of each row is the in-universe time, tracking how long or how short each month was.

In terms of colours, I've split up the timeline into loose story arcs as best as I can, and the months are coloured according to what season they belong to.

My next update to this will be after we pass Chapter 700, because then I'll be able to add a new row to it. I've conferred with people on discord about whether I've missed anything so I'm relatively confident this is complete, but if anyone recalls anything I've missed I'll note it down and add it to the 700 edition.

In the meantime, I hope this proves useful to people who want to get a better grasp of what's happened in the quest and when!
 
..Because that's what Ino wants? That's what she's asking for? If Ino wants to get her other ninja access to Goo Bombs, then we can make a separate trade deal for that.
Fair enough.

"I want to free her," Hazō said. "Obviously. I'm not letting my family get led astray by a fanatical nutcase who thinks murder is a sacrament."

"Then you must retract everything you have said at the nearest opportunity," Kei replied. "Yuno can hardly be persuaded of the wickedness or folly of Jashinism while the head of her own clan proclaims himself an ally of Jashin and recognises Hidan's spiritual authority in matters of immediate interest to her."
I dunno about this, Kei. How likely is it that, doing this, we will be able to unbrainwash Yuno as opposed to give Yuno more reason to fall into Hidan's Jashinism. Worst case scenario, Yuno might just straight up leave leaf or act behind our backs.



"I get it," Noburi said, "all right? I get it. I'm the one who has to listen to her talk about how much fun she has chopping off chakra beasts' heads, and how exciting it is when that gets her showered in a colour of blood she's never seen before. I get why people don't want to hear that. But she doesn't deserve to be treated like some kind of incurable maniac just because she never learned how to make her feelings sound socially acceptable the way most people do by the time they're that traumatised."
Thank you.

"In the end, this isn't really about violence. I mean it is, obviously, but the reason Hidan had such an easy time was alienation. It's not about the fact that he understood her–it's the fact that he understood her and nobody else did.
Thank you.

We have to show her that we understand and accept her, and there's no way to do that without spending time with her and actually getting your head around how and why she thinks the way she does.
Thank you.

That said, my main priorities for Yuno are three-fold:
  • Keep Yuno happy (esp. with the family)
  • Keep her loyalty to us rather than Jashinism or sth
  • Make her understand or even adhere to Uplift (esp. the no-massacre thing)
I'm pretty lost on what plan I can make out of this, though. 1 & 2 can be correlated, but attacking Jashinism right now would probably make her feel more alienated. 3 will require some mental acrobatics of some kind, but it will probably be made much easier once we untraumatize Yuno. If she feels happy and welcome in her family, she might be able to recognize that it is desirable to let as many people have that happiness.

To accomplish that, we need her to feel secure: she must be able to speak her mind without her interlocutors looking at her like she's crazy. It's easier said than done, but it honestly could be worse. Like Nobs says in the update, she has weird interests (eg, her collection of blood-colours), probably also violent needs, but they're not criminal in and of themselves. It's not like she's craving for sacrificing babies and murdering people. Actually, violence is the only thing for which she ever got recognized throughout her life. Perhaps she can be encouraged to get a new passion? (low credence on that, not gonna lie) Just get Nob and her to try different activities until one gets her attention. Diversifying her hobbies could help diffusing her tension/violent tendencies.

So long as Yuno doesn't join Hidan's brand of Jashinism, I don't particularly care about her devotion to Jashin. We only can't let her act like a psychopath.

Of course, I am omitting a big issue: Leaf's perception of Jashinism, and Yuno's (our?) heresy. All they know of Jashinism is Hidan's murderous tendencies. Perhaps we can convince them that we're actually trying to swear him off the massacres (especially of our citizens)? Ideally, they would leave us alone so long as we swear we're not gonna massacre people, which hey, by the way! that's against everything we've done so far.


They aren't contradictory at all. We think Jashin probably exists, has probably granted us divine favours, and probably has goals which are not aligned with our goals.
Some of His goals are probably not aligned with ours. But then, we've got preeetty weird goals by EN's standards. Still, if we are somewhat aligned on Uplift that's amazing.

I agree with FS. I also think that worship is probably not the right word, we don't revere Jashin. We don't think they're morally great being, or that they will point us the correct way through life, or that we would do anything for them. In fact, there is very little we're willing to do for them that we weren't already going to do.

Hazō is... Surfboarding through this sea of chaos, and Jashin is a rogue wave that just so happens to be going the same way as Hazō. It's neat, and we're not going to spit in the face of this boon, but we're also not going to help it capsize the ocean liner that is in front of it. In fact, we'll probably try to save them.
Sorry but I am very confused by your allegory :p I do agree that we do not worship/revere Jashin. Still, I keep thinking we should see this as a partnership, rather than us milking Jashin for what's His worth or leeching off of Him. He can help us on our goals, and they are far more important than some minor concessions if he needs those. No massacres. Nothing that sacrifices our integrity to that extent. Though I feel we should be willing to earn those Jashing coins through killing bandits and even sometime converting random villages to Uplift Jashinism.

If Yuno was worthy of our trust (not a murder cultist) we would trust her. Up until now we had a good track record of trusting her, then she did some really crazy shit.

The whole thing with Isan is just way over Hazou's paygrade. That's Asuma's fault, the only thing you can blame Hazou for is not going missing over it, and indeed I'm sure some ninja might have.
Were we worthy of her trust? Trust goes both ways, and it's not like we've been a great family thus far either.

Honestly, it feels like we're hitting wall after wall due to Leaf politics. Going missing-nin doesn't sound too bad, but it's still not optimal right now. Going full-Tsunade at some point would be nice (ie, not caring about anything but Uplift, and bonking people who try to take us away from that task).

He doesn't need to disappear Yuno, he can probably rightfully execute her 🤷‍♂️
Politics. If he does that, he'll need to check we are not going rogue, because... we just might. It sounds like a lot of hassle. When we asked for that Hags' head, we didn't get it because of politics (I think?), so why not do the same? Just exile Yuno or send her away to a random position where she'll be out of sight of the population.
 
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Omake: A Murder God Is You


Kagome-sensei had warned him, long ago: a stressed-out, fatigued, or freshly-traumatised sealmaster could fall prey to a dangerous fallacy, a failed conception. Saviour Syndrome. The deeply-held belief that by scribing the right seal, the sufficient array, the perfect plan, the superlative list, one could make all well and fix what cannot be. An obligatorily destructive endeavour, that belief put in practice only ever resulted in tragedy.

But Hazō was not a stressed-out, fatigued, or freshly traumatised sealmaster. Indeed, he felt more lucid than he had at any point in the last month. And he had outgrown his master, for all that he respected him, they both knew it.

No longer did he use the flawed creations of men, in an art that granted, was long-developed and elegant, but he now was tapping into the primeval substances that shaped the world.

Hazō was stressed-out, fatigued, and freshly-traumatised, but sealmaster was no longer a satisfactory nomer. By eschewing the need for paper and tools, bypassing simple carvings (an eidolon of the purer arts), and skipping ahead to the true heart of sealing, stolen fully-shaped from the earth in high-relief like gargantuan bones of a dread beast, he was now a sealshaper.

With but a detailed thought, and application of his chakra, from the ground could rise his machines, written in a language both too deep for the matter they were made of and too true to be made of anything else. Around him, pillars, arches, roofs, would grow fully formed. Chains and branches would sprout and link diverse structures, geometrical yet irregular interlockings of mazes he knew the secret to, with no correct path but all at once and sideways through time.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o​

That was the theory. After a week of planning, the practice in effect left him panting, exhausted, in the dead city of stone and dirt he infused his life-force shaping from the ground. More power than he had would be required to power this mad labyrinth of serpentine angles, but he had accounted for this.

A step one, done and over with. Drinking a vial of water containing the power of his brother's birth right, he felt the familiar buzzing of an energy not his own, untamed and yet within himself. He pushed every last bit of that chakra in the displaced earth around him.

The structure could power itself through its basic function, amplifying the power in magnitude and essence, burning itself into the world as a fully-powered engine of both order and chaos.

When the infusion succeeded, a thin crust of earth fell off the newly-formed Seal, willing itself into existence, made of gleaming crystals with an air of ice, inspired by the lattices that so entranced his sister. The enhanced power was visible, coursing through the crystal as though it were veins of a waking behemoth, somehow both skeletal and gigantic.

All that was left for the exhausted man in the labyrinth was to jolt his consciousness a tiny bit out of frame. Move it slightly out of the way, disconnect it a bit from the body it was stuck in, and his Last Seal would do the rest.

Breathing in, Hazō focused on Akane and Ino, twain anchors of his to the material world. He held their images in his mind, the scent of their hair, the glint of their many smiles, the heat from their skin.

Breathing out, he let go of them.

And he was gone.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o​

Fire.

Fire and screaming and crashes. That was what it would feel like, if Hazō could still feel.

Unprotected by the Paint and the cobweb of "reality," he splintered. Guided by a machine more real than anything else, the splinters recompiled. Rebuilt themselves. Recombined into a being greater than he'd ever been.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o
Hazō - no, the new-Hazō, Shin-Hazō, knew what to do. Thrown at the beginning of time, with life eternal, he could... he could solve it. Learn every secret, find every loophole, avoid wars, achieve Uplift easily, even rescue Akane...

He saw her die again, murdered by Rock spies in broad daylight.

But he could do this. He had to. He erected the Last Seal again, sending his spirit into the depths of time again. He would manipulate the world line more carefully.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o​

Hazō (Shin) would do everything to prevent the last war, robbing them of the cause for murder.

But Akane did not live to be born in a world without the source of Rock and Leaf's enmity.

He built his Last Seal once more. This time, he would be more hands-on.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o
Hasshin would not prevent wars. Civilians, ninja, nobles, animals, they all were dead more times than saving them once would be worth. The weight of the hundredfold sin of letting them die, compounded by millions of lives on each world, bore on his back. But he needed to solve this. He had to see it through to the end. And if he failed... if he failed he could always try again.

Akane lived, but he was fatally wounded in saving her. Only time enough to activate it all again, with reserves long prepared - just in case.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o​

Hashin expended lives time and again, eliminating threats, burning causality at the root. He would burn it all, all, to protect her. To save her. To make things right again.

She took her own life when he did, his unseen hand crafting a world too bleak for her to survive in.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o​

Jashin taught murder, indiscriminate murder, moderated by repopulation. All to a select few. Plans in centuries, tactics over decades, strategies by the ebb and flow of generations. Wars played like symphonies to the ear of the Mad God. Invisibly guiding his pawns to the only end state to the game that he would accept. The only end that could be.

He would fix the world. He would make it right. He was bringing Akane back, no matter what.

This is amazing to be honest this gets my brain working in gear I'm just kind of imagining his design

he would obviously have a lot of red and black and the symbol you know his would appear all over his clothes I also Imagine he's still wearing a headband but like around his neck and it has like the missing nin cross through the village symbol but whatever Village symbol seems to be smudged his body has a lot of Crystal Lake gross at various places they seem to be a part of his clothes but they appear on his flesh too they are like a different colors they seem to coordinate with the five (since it appears he may have created The five redactively in this) I also Imagine him wearing a coat/hood kind of like terumi from blaze blue with it being very ripped looking almost kind of burnt and it's color his eyes look very very tired his body looks almost starved imagine his weapon of choice being some chains which can turn into a scythe and something that roughly resembles a type of gun that farmers would use to scare off animals and I imagine that his design is filled with a Time motif maybe like having something time based in his eyes his scythe having a Time shape hole he kind of reminds me of the ruined King from league and legends so like the ruin King I'm giving him a hole where his heart should be and is glowing almost lay with his power or it's just completely empty maybe with like a small flame or something in it

I also love how you show how he ignored the critical advice of those wiser than him he's literally the living example of what kogamy told him he forgot that power does not make you less of a person no matter how much you have it's also the fundamental era of every s-class Shinobi we have seen in the setting some more than others but it rings true


anyways I'm very normal about this thing you have written @Lysbeth Succubus
 
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I know that voting is still closed (which is ominous), but presuming that Sunday's updoot doesn't contain anything we need to immediately react to, this is the plan I plan on posting.

[ ] Action Plan: Seals, Trade Deals, and Reaching for the Heavens
Words: <350
  • Ino and the sale of Hazou's personal Goo Bomb seals
    • Internally:
      • Put on "Goketsu Clan Head" Hat.
      • The Yamanaka Clan Head wants a commission that eats into our best sealmaster's valuable time. Luckily, it's prosocial in intent, and our clans are allied. Allowances can be made where they might otherwise not be.
      • Trade in (and assume) good faith.
    • Initial Proposal (sanity checked by Mari)
      • Opsec Precautions:
        • The Yamanaka Clan promises not to sell them, reverse engineer them, etc.
      • Supply...
        • Genin-use only
        • Hazou and Ino come to an agreement about a reasonable allotment of monthly Goo Bomb seals.
          • (be willing to negotiate up to an in-character reasonable amount, given Hazou's time constraints)
        • Goketsu Hazou will provide a backstock on the Goketsu Estate so that, should he be unavailable to resupply a monthly allotment, the Yamanaka Clan aren't inconvenienced.
      • Duration
        • One Year
        • Revisit the deal, afterwards.
      • Payment
        • We don't really need cash, so... what're the Yamanaka Clan offering?
    • Let Hazou-pilot and Ino take it from there.
  • Noburi
    • Now that the Hospital has slowed down, would you be willing to take a couple of weeks off to read the medical lootboxes?
      • You impressed Tsunade, but now it's time to blow her expectations out of the water!
      • When we see her next, she'll be begging to take you on as an apprentice!
    • Also, ask Noburi...
      • Would experimenting on chakra beasts be a useful gateway into opening a human tesk... tek... [chakra gate]?
      • To test if sealing an object sterilizes it (spirits are questionably alive)
      • Whether Arachnid Silk bandages would be an improvement for the hospital?
        • If so, donate a lot. We have ES50 and can afford to take a temporary hit on Arachnid Silk Trade.
  • Offscreen
    • Sasha
      • Ask her native Element.
        • If she hasn't learned it yet in the Academy, ask Mari to bribe whomever needs to be bribed so Sasha can learn what Element she is early.
          • If Mari thinks he's ready, Haru can handle that.
      • Ask what specialization she's considering
    • Sealing
      • Shadow Clone: Finish Minato Seal 7, continue to Minato Seal 8
      • Prime: Rocket Boots
 
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Thank you for your kind words - that said this is more of a "part of a wider pattern that seems to indicate autism" thing than a "not extending patience to oneself" thing. Need to work on expecting irony/sarcasm more often ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
Irony and sarcasm are cognitohazards. Somehow saying the opposite of the intended meaning is supossed to be witty and fun. Fuck that. It is cowardice, a distraction at best and a misunderstanding at worst. Language is imprecise enough already, now I have to consider that it may have been said in jest too? I hate it, know the damage it does, and still use it, like the bad habit it is.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
 
Irony and sarcasm are cognitohazards. Somehow saying the opposite of the intended meaning is supossed to be witty and fun. Fuck that. It is cowardice, a distraction at best and a misunderstanding at worst. Language is imprecise enough already, now I have to consider that it may have been said in jest too? I hate it, know the damage it does, and still use it, like the bad habit it is.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
In spirit, this is a Kei rant, minus the self-loathing
 
Seal Mechanics
Similarly, it would make it substantially easier to decide our research priorities if we had a better picture of what some seals actually do. It some situations (such as when we are inventing a novel seal or reverse engineering one acquired from an enemy) it makes complete sense for Hazō to only learn the seal mechanics upon completing research and testing on it, but most of the time he should have a pretty good idea of what it does. Take the seal Asuma just assumed to us as research, for example. If the Tower knows what the seal does, wouldn't that information be shared with Hazō during his mission?

What exactly does it take to unlock the mechanics of a seal? Would any of the following be enough:
  • having a sealmaster who can make the seal inform us
  • having someone who uses the seal inform us
  • having a copy (or copies) of the infused seal
  • having the complete research notes from a sealmaster who can make the seal
We completely understand if you don't have the mechanics nailed down yet. Honestly, even having proto-mechanics or a brief description of what the intended mechanics will look like would be an enormous help. What would it take for Hazō to have access to that information?
@eaglejarl @Velorien

Per @Paperclipped's request, I'm reposting this in thread. It's specifically aimed at figuring out what would be needed to have a better sense at what 4FSoP does for research prioritization purposes, but it's also helpful information in general.
 
@Paperclipped, @Velorien, @eaglejarl

What is Sasha's element? She's an Academy Student, and she graduates in ~6 months, so she should have learned it by now.

IIRC, Akane was sick the day they tested her class, that's why Jiraiya had to test Akane's Elemental nature.
 
Noburi isn't going to be doing the surgery if we go that route with Naruto. To get Naruto on board where going to have to go through Asuma. Which means it won't be our OP. Either Tsunade or Oro will do the surgery.

I'd also like to point out that by going this route we can only pull off the rescue Pain plan without commiting some major treason.
I don't necessarily think that's the case. Tsunade is often very hard to contact, and only a fool would let Oro operate on them voluntarily. If Nobs demonstrates that he can do the surgery safely then I think there's a good chance he'll be the one doing it. If he ends up assisting Tsunade or Kabuto that's also fine, this isn't going to hurt anything.

But if we have no one to do the surgery, that's bad. So this a reasonable way to cover our bases.

I'm not sure I 100% agree that getting Naruto on board means we have to go through Asuma. Certainly we will have to involve him at some point, probably after we resurrect someone.
 
I don't necessarily think that's the case. Tsunade is often very hard to contact, and only a fool would let Oro operate on them voluntarily. If Nobs demonstrates that he can do the surgery safely then I think there's a good chance he'll be the one doing it. If he ends up assisting Tsunade or Kabuto that's also fine, this isn't going to hurt anything.

But if we have no one to do the surgery, that's bad. So this a reasonable way to cover our bases.

I'm not sure I 100% agree that getting Naruto on board means we have to go through Asuma. Certainly we will have to involve him at some point, probably after we resurrect someone.
Solution: kidnap the four-tails jinchuriki
 
Solution: kidnap the four-tails jinchuriki
I don't hate this idea or anything, but I do think we'll need to open and reopen the Rift a few times. So we'd need to solve the problem of
1) catching a jinchuuriki in the first place
2) hauling that jinchuuriki to the Rift
3) keeping them sedated/docile the entire time

Now Nobs can do 3) with his chakra drain if (and this is a big if) he can drain jinchuuriki safely. We don't know if he can and there's some reason to think he can't. 1) seems pretty intractable without Asuma's support, I don't think Mari + SCs can reliably take out an essie. They might, but we'd be betting the farm on it. 2) is reasonably fine, as long as the jinchuuriki doesn't wake up unexpectedly on the cross-continental trip.

TBH this seems like it introduces a lot of danger into any afterlife delving plan. In my estimate we'd be better off using Naruto.
 
What are things easier to do before we become s rankers ?
Separating true believers from the fakes of uplift.
Going places/doing stuff incognito
Demonstrating to others how we react to those more powerful
 
The only seals that I could think of that could extract or store lots of chakra are the Wakahisa seals. You'd still need a Wakahisa and water as a medium to store the chakra. Perhaps Hazou and Kagome can extract some useful information about them or strip away some of the restrictions. It might be an avenue we should explore, now that I think about it. The only silver lining is that I assume it's probably slightly less difficult than the Minato seal chain.
 
"Fine," Hazō said. "My second objection: Isan has valuable lore preserved for hundreds of years. If we wipe them out, we lose lore that could be crucial to winning the fight against the Dragons."

Asuma nodded. "Good forethought, Hazō. It would likely take years to seduce the knowledge out of their loremaster clan by hand, but we can do a targeted mind-dive in order to take it now before their destruction. Apart from lore on the Dragons, what else would be important for the mind-dive to look for?"

Hazō paused. He hadn't considered everything that could have been useful, and now he needed to decide quickly before Isan could be killed.

"Lore on the Paths. Lore on the Sage, or on the Sage's companions." He bit his tongue before his next request could emerge. Hazō didn't know how Shikamaru or Asuma might respond if Hazō continued to show interest in the dark god. "Anything they have about sealing, whether about Summoning Scrolls, three-dimensional sealing, or anything at all. There's too much unique knowledge they have for nothing there to be valuable."

Asuma nodded. "We'll extract that information for you. Good catch, Hazō. We need to make sure that our swift action doesn't also cause unforced errors. Still, we can't exchange a potential apocalypse on another Path for a certain apocalypse on this one."
Also pinging @eaglejarl @Velorien Did we ever get Isan's Forbidden Lore?
 
The only seals that I could think of that could extract or store lots of chakra are the Wakahisa seals. You'd still need a Wakahisa and water as a medium to store the chakra. Perhaps Hazou and Kagome can extract some useful information about them or strip away some of the restrictions. It might be an avenue we should explore, now that I think about it. The only silver lining is that I assume it's probably slightly less difficult than the Minato seal chain.
I wonder if we could improve upon the Wakahisa seals by using PS. Get additional chakra into the barrel or make a seal that collects chakra for use and stash it in the barrel. Seems like an avenue worth exploring
 
I wonder if we could improve upon the Wakahisa seals by using PS. Get additional chakra into the barrel or make a seal that collects chakra for use and stash it in the barrel. Seems like an avenue worth exploring
We also need to make a version of the barrel seals that doesn't have an artificially-designed expiration date.
 
Over the past couple days I've been trawling through the timeline docs and noting every major event in the quest, in order to assemble this visual timeline of MfD:

Thank you for doing this!

One of the questions that now occurs to me seeing the timeline like this is how much XP is required to get Elemental Mastery up to nuke level?

From this, we can see that Asuma was able to get there in 4 months flat, but more likely 3 months (he wouldn't have wanted to kill Akane until he knew he could end Isan without her). In addition to technique hacking the alternative version (which he would have needed to do personally).

While we don't know for sure, we can reasonably assume that Asuma is stagnate in some regard since he doesn't have a lot of time to train and find challenges and there aren't many challenges equal to a Hokage.

But even without any stagnancy, at 120 days (roughly) and going full out to learn it what would his XP rate per day have needed to be?

Separately, on the topic of bells and whistles to add to seals to make them more difficult, I had considered this a while ago about making seals more activation durable, which is particularly relevant for RRB:

Physical wear and tear should be the demise of a storage seal, not 100ish activations of an otherwise pristine seal. If every storage seal used by every ninja is the decade long Goketsu version then that has so much low hanging social credit, and goodwill from the Tower for logistical and seal scribing time saving reasons.

Also, it gives Hazou veterancy in making seals more durable and reusable, which is exactly what a bunch of the other seal suggestions would like to do as well. Manipulating and improving one of the simplest seals to get veterancy seems like the best way to get that veterancy.
 
Thank you for doing this!

One of the questions that now occurs to me seeing the timeline like this is how much XP is required to get Elemental Mastery up to nuke level?

From this, we can see that Asuma was able to get there in 4 months flat, but more likely 3 months (he wouldn't have wanted to kill Akane until he knew he could end Isan without her). In addition to technique hacking the alternative version (which he would have needed to do personally).

While we don't know for sure, we can reasonably assume that Asuma is stagnate in some regard since he doesn't have a lot of time to train and find challenges and there aren't many challenges equal to a Hokage.

But even without any stagnancy, at 120 days (roughly) and going full out to learn it what would his XP rate per day have needed to be?

Separately, on the topic of bells and whistles to add to seals to make them more difficult, I had considered this a while ago about making seals more activation durable, which is particularly relevant for RRB:
I feel this is important to point out but he isn't exactly a Hokage level threat or fighter so he's probably less likely to be stagnant though he is also still the Hokage so he may be stagnant because he's unable to get into appropriate level fights and whatnot
 
But even without any stagnancy, at 120 days (roughly) and going full out to learn it what would his XP rate per day have needed to be?

It takes EM mastery 40 for the nuke. Assuming Asuma already had a fire element at 40 that's a total of 410 XP. That means he would need to get 3.5 XP per day to get it in 120 days or 4.5 XP per day

While we don't know for sure, we can reasonably assume that Asuma is stagnate in some regard since he doesn't have a lot of time to train and find challenges and there aren't many challenges equal to a Hokage.

Not to mention, he's also Hokage, and may not have the time to train enough to earn XP every day...

I think we can pretty much conclusively rule out stagnancy being applied due to when the rework happened and the fact that. Add in the fact that if he was only fully stagnate in one of three domains his baseline XP would be 8.75-11.25 per day.
 
I wonder if we could improve upon the Wakahisa seals by using PS. Get additional chakra into the barrel or make a seal that collects chakra for use and stash it in the barrel. Seems like an avenue worth exploring
True.
Ideally, if Hazou ever decides to download them, I think PS would be great for longevity and storage capacity. I'm also super curious to compare MS 1-8 to Wakahisa seals. I'm thinking they could augment each other.

For instance, I'm thinking about what could happen if MS 3 was used to cheat our way to a poor man's Sage mode.
(MS: 3 Another chakra construct. This one holds the environmental chakra in it for a few minutes before dissipating.)

We also need to make a version of the barrel seals that doesn't have an artificially-designed expiration date.
Was that a natural expiration that all seals experience? Or was it something built in on purpose by the Wakahisa?
 
Was that a natural expiration that all seals experience? Or was it something built in on purpose by the Wakahisa?
Purposefully designed to expire by the Wakahisa. The barrel seals only last 5ish years, and then the Wakahisa ninja have to get new versions of the seals.

I'm uncertain if our trade deal with the Wakahisa covers getting Noburi new "updated" barrel seals, but we have Noburi's barrel seals, and at least one other Wakahisa's barrel seals from the chunnin exams. We also have the Fish Doctor Guy and a Wakahisa Diplomat that we could steal from if we need additional data points to draw from (assuming they all have different models of the Barrel Seal).
 
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