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The winning path here is not to escalate and let Asuma take care of this.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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Wow, the code names sure have changed since "Shell Black." Let's see if I can decode this... "Dango" is probably getting in taijutsu range, "gitcher" is about plenty, so clones, "fresh and hot" means EM nukes. Sensible.
Poison user incoming
"Sensei, make sexy noises" now has its own code. Smart.
Okay I have no idea any more.
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Oh, he's defending us, that's kind and heartwa- must you stab us through the heart right in the middle of warming it?
One might even say a need for... velocity. I can't do it. I can't.
I started quoting this paragraph with how cool it is when you add this kind of details (tradesmen, beggars, and so on) and then I got gut-punched by the high stakes over this announcement - I did not realise there would be so many people, especially of so high a calibre.
[><] Do this from now on whenever we want people's attention. In fact, make it a bioseal (sound starting one metre away from it to protect ourselves) so we're never short on calling people to our attention. Doubles as a FUBAR technique without having a Fire or Lightning element to use.
He's just a normal Leaf special jōnin, who wants to murder those around him because murder?
Gotta be the Kurusu. I knew they're out to get us.
Thank you Jashi- ah, fuck.
And even win against some of them!!
I LOVE YOU
Very Batman! Nara Shikako would approve.
Is there any relation to Bababakuchioka?
Well, that was epic.
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All we did this update was state that "Ritsuo acted against a loyal Leaf ninja, and leveraged his religious influence to politically fuck over a peer. This greatly upset me because he is using his religious power to divide Leaf instead of uniting Leaf against our enemies."
These are facts.
Honestly, with how repeatedly and blatantly Ritsuo is acting against Asuma's orders of "stop this and play nice," I'm fully expecting Ritsuo to get punished by Asuma. Not only is this going against the direct orders of your Hokage, this is preventing Hazou from working on seals that would help with the Dragonwar. And Asuma has decided to back Hazou 100% with regard to the Dragonwar.
I'm inclined to give Asuma an update or two's worth of time to respond to Rituso before we go into his office, saying "The Hagoromo Clan are disrupting my ability to research seals that will support our efforts against the Dragonwar. The Dragonwar has been assigned to me as an S-rank mission. What, if anything, would you like me to do about this obstruction to my legally-mandated mission?"
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Side note: with how often Ritsuo is leveraging the Hagoromo Clan's religious authority to fuck over Hazou, specifically, I wonder how the Hagoromo are doing as a religious institution? Because to be so blatantly using his religious power for his own ends has got to be undermining the Hagoromo Clan's power, along with everything else.
At some point, people are going to stop trusting the Hagoromo because they'll assume (perhaps rightfully) that whatever answer they get will be part of a plan to screw over the Goketsu Clan. And it doesn't help that it was a Hagoromo who sent Akane (who was beloved by literally everyone who met her) on the mission that killed her. The Tower even had to do a Big Official Investigation to see if the Hagoromo who killed Akane was a traitor, or Literally Just that Incompetent. That can't be good for optics.
And now the other clan heads know that the Hokage, himself, told the Goketsu and the Hag to play nice, and that Ritsuo is violating that order every other Tuesday. I could very well see the Clans saying "yeah, we're not going near that blatant insubordination of the friggin' Hokage with a ten foot pole" and refusing to work with Ritsuo.
Here's hoping that Ritsuo gets kicked out of Clan Headship by his Clan Elders.
At some point, people are going to stop trusting the Hagoromo because they'll assume (perhaps rightfully) that whatever answer they get will be part of a plan to screw over the Goketsu Clan. And it doesn't help that it was a Hagoromo who sent Akane (who was beloved by literally everyone who met her) on the mission that killed her. The Tower even had to do a Big Official Investigation to see if the Hagoromo who killed Akane was a traitor, or Literally Just that Incompetent. That can't be good for optics.
And now the other clan heads know that the Hokage, himself, told the Goketsu and the Hag to play nice, and that Ritsuo is violating that order every other Tuesday. I could very well see the Clans saying "yeah, we're not going near that blatant insubordination of the friggin' Hokage with a ten foot pole" and refusing to work with Ritsuo.
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Totally down to do this but we need to get Noburi unstagnated first.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped Have y'all come to consensus on if notes are unaffected by stagnancy or not? (Due to misc reasons including Manjiro breaking decades of chuunin hood using the notes)
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Does Hazo qualify for a general FP refresh since he ended the chapter with 1 FP?
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@Paperclipped , @eaglejarl , @Velorien:
At the risk of poking the Shadow Clone Jutsu too hard and making it pop out of existence... is it possible to do physical burnout with SC sealing? The rules state the maluses from the consequences happen after the research roll, which implies that a Shadow Clone would be able to take advantage of this particular mechanic without passing the Physical Consequence over to Prime.
At the risk of poking the Shadow Clone Jutsu too hard and making it pop out of existence... is it possible to do physical burnout with SC sealing? The rules state the maluses from the consequences happen after the research roll, which implies that a Shadow Clone would be able to take advantage of this particular mechanic without passing the Physical Consequence over to Prime.
[X] Action Plan: Cannai! We Need to Cook
Word Count: <300
Word Count: <300
- Cannai
- We think we can do 3D sealing if we have infusable material
- Ask for his help investigating the difference between chakra crystal and stone, and trying to make stone infusable
- Work with a Crystal Release expert (Canain or someone else) to investigate the crystals they release and experiment with trying to make something infusable
- Obtain some chakra beast bones (Offscreen?)
- If they're readily available
- see what it takes for Earthshaping to become able to manipulate them
- test them for infusibility
- If not, experiment with them when we acquire them later
- If they're readily available
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- Ask for his help trying to manipulate chakra to grow more chakra crystal
- attempt to earthshape rock while it it submerged in chakra water that Noburi is actively controlling
- correlate the feedback hazō gets from earthshaping with the feedback noburi gets from his jutsu
- (Offscreen) Advise Noburi and Kei they might want to take some difficult combat missions to keep their combat skills sharp
- Something is causing chakra beasts to migrate, could be an appropriate challenge
- OOC: Goal is to unstagnate them
- Kei's tour on the 7th Path might also be enough
- If the Toads have appropriately challenging combat opportunities for Noburi that would also be good
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I think this links to the wrong plan, the denouncement plan with Bakuchioka etc. is here:
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
[X] Action Plan: So, You Have Come This Far, and Still, You Understand Nothing Word Count: 391 Optimize with Uplift Public Announcement: Send runners to other clans/KEI and hire criers. Make it known Lord Goketsu has something important to say. Denounce Hidan's penchant for ritual slaughter...
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Reposting this plan, minus the conversation with Asuma because (a) that was controversial, (b) scene count is already high unless some of them are going to be offscreen, and (c) if I have room for another scene, I'd rather do the goo bomb trade deal. Feedback is welcome, this feels kinda rough around the edges right now.
@Twinnstars IIRC you wanted changes made here but I don't remember exactly what. Could you suggest a wording?
I don't remember whose idea this was, but could they please elaborate on what they had in mind and suggest a better wording so the QMs understand what we want to try?
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Bump.
We all seem to be in agreement about whether or not we should do the Goo Bomb Trade Deal with the Yamanaka. We all seem to agree to want some iteration of this to occur. The QMs have said that it needs to be voted in through an action plan. So let's vote it in.
We all seem to be in agreement about whether or not we should do the Goo Bomb Trade Deal with the Yamanaka. We all seem to agree to want some iteration of this to occur. The QMs have said that it needs to be voted in through an action plan. So let's vote it in.
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I would vote for this on two conditions:
1: Reduce the word count to under 300. I don't personally think the contents are high stakes enough to warrant losing out on brevity. I think you could trim a lot of the first segment by saying something like "Work out a reasonable deal with Mari/Kei's advice."
2: Explicitly ask Ino something like, "As payment, would you accompany me in future Scroll hunts, with the caveat Goketsu retains ownership of the Scroll?" If that's not politically pragmatic she can say so. And if she wants a Scroll she could always hire us to help her get one.
I like the plan but think it's better suited for an EJ update who likes both the Dogs and chakra science much more.
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*raises hand* Maybe it's just me, but I feel that spending Hazou's time on non-necromancy/non-Dragonwar stuff is a concern for those projects, and that we should request stuff that eases Hazou's spoon count for those projects.
Like ask Ino to help with a crystal cave mission or something.
Like ask Ino to help with a crystal cave mission or something.
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Technically, acquiring Scrolls is related to the dragons
I'm also imagining this happening in like, a few months (and in my mind, post necro), not right now. But bringing her to the honey cave could also be cool (or bringing her along to retrieve Mareo and escort him to Leaf...)
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This is true, but I was thinking more about being explicit regarding Hazou's goals (we offer X, we want help with Dragonwar/necromancy, what do you have to offer), even if unstated.
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We could get her to invest in protecting our reputation more so we don't have to do it lmao
How much is our reputation worth though 🤔
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My mind drifts to Ino, and now that our triad has been temporarily trimmed, I wonder if we might have to consider what a cross-clan Clan Head marriage would look like. Even if we don't, the politics would be fascinating to think about. There's an idea that the Hagoromo might put pressure on us to marry Ino so we aren't "living in sin", forcing the issue and, in his best case, forcing us to abdicate and be inducted into Ino's Clan. Not that they have that pressure or even that Leaf culture would support that kind of thing; but it's a mildly interesting thought exercise.
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I feel like even with all the side-stats Hazou is investing in, by the time he's 18 he's still going to be strong/influential enough on his own to just outright be like "lol dont care" much less when you factor in Kei being on the stronger side of jonin, Mari being ??? strong, and also jiraiya being there prolly
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Well, let's do some math. Assuming that's two years from now, and after we finish necromancy (i'll say it's in three months) we do full foom and are able somehow to beat back stagnancy consistently...
3.5*638.75*2.9
+3.5*91.25*2.0
= ~6475+644 or 7119 XP.
Doing up a sheet based on that right now.
e: Here it is!
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Intriguing
I'll have to run some numbers of my own on this :Hazoulook:
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped What would we have to do to get an Art Domain for Hazou? He's got Calligraphy and Earthshaping both high enough that they could very well count as such. Would the way to go about that be to start doing them just as art, or...?
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I think Mari and Nobs are handling this. I don't really think we can do anything at this point except make it worse.