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Is 4SOP not enough to unstagnate Hazou? Like, do we know that it's not enough?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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It's jonin difficulty normally (chunnin with the notes), and Hazou's an S-rank sealmaster
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It is not unfortunately
To make RRB which is a massive jump in survivability for the Goketsu that are still alive (including Hazou.) Also unstagnates if we add bells and whistles per papers suggestions
This is my preference as well
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That is fair. Hm.
It seems that we don't necessarily have to finish RRB in order to remove stagnancy, and that if we push ahead without learning Rocket Boots the increased difficulty may be enough for us to remove stagnancy without completing the project.
Side note: All this really makes me want to level Calligraphy so we don't Seal Failure our way to Akane.
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Difference being we can compensate for calligraphy with prep but we can't compensate for not having Alertness with prep.
I don't realistically think we can claim such. They're shunning Hazou so hard he can't do sealing research? Wouldn't that make it easier?
Asuma isn't going to intervene on our side here no matter what they say. He has nothing to gain and too much to lose by appearing to take sides.
I don't think working on 4FSP now gets us anything in that department compared to the counterfactual scenario where we work on it in a month or two.
We do not know. However, given that Hazou is a jounin-bordering-on-essie sealmaster and we know that RBs won't unstagnate (another jounin seal made chunin-level by research notes). We have some very good reasons to suspect such.
We would need to make an infusion roll to determine whether 4SOP would unstagnate Hazou.
Wait, for real? Source? I want to link it at people.
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*grumbling in stay-at-home sealmaster*
Yeah, I'm belatedly convinced, I guess. I just feel that dropping everything to work on necromancy/Primordial Sealing is the to-do, and combat training detracts from that.
I would prefer to finish RBs and then use the decrease in difficulty for RRBs to make a better version (more activations, higher bonus). RRBs are going to be the workhorse of our entire Clan's buff stunts, and it makes sense to get them as strong as possible.
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It came to me in a dream
More seriously no idea, it's called so many things (4FB, 4SOP, 4FSP, fourfold barrier, etc.) I can't search it well. I think paper suggested as much but I don't want to put any words in mouths.
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One way to fix it: @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped Will the Fourfold Violet Flame Barrier solve Hazou's stagnancy?
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I would def suggest making a serious attempt to have Noburi unstagnate in combat before starting back on the med notes.
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The seal is called Fourfold Seal of Preservation. The jutsu it's based on is called Fourfold Violet Flame Barrier.
Ordinarily I wouldn't bother, but it's not often you get to outfaflec Faflec
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No clue, sorry. I never paid the most attention to the details of our clan, and the visual timeline I'm assembling wouldn't include minor events with limited narrative presence (largely because I'm going off the QM timeline docs and the summaries there have their own standards for notability).
RandomOTP might be able to help you, though. On multiple occasions he's impressed me with his knowledge of people on the estate, so if anyone knows what you're looking for it's
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Bleh, that's what I get for reading about all the different names we have for it
Cultural Expectations Around Clan Adoptees
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PSA: Ruling about adoptees
The Gōketsu adoptees (Mio etc) have been feeling cranky lately and in chapter 607 Snowflake mentioned that they have the legal right to leave the clan and return to the KEI. There's been player discussion about this and the QMs would like to nail down the cultural expectations:
Ordinarily, adoptees would be given basic clan techniques relatively quickly (although likely not day 1) but top-tier secrets would take much longer to earn. Born-clan will generally be given the basic techniques as children and will usually not get access to top-tier secrets until they are teens or twenty-somethings and have demonstrated sufficient power that the secrets are unlikely to be taken from them.
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The Gōketsu adoptees (Mio etc) have been feeling cranky lately and in chapter 607 Snowflake mentioned that they have the legal right to leave the clan and return to the KEI. There's been player discussion about this and the QMs would like to nail down the cultural expectations:
Ordinarily, adoptees would be given basic clan techniques relatively quickly (although likely not day 1) but top-tier secrets would take much longer to earn. Born-clan will generally be given the basic techniques as children and will usually not get access to top-tier secrets until they are teens or twenty-somethings and have demonstrated sufficient power that the secrets are unlikely to be taken from them.
The sequence here went:
- The Gōketsu adopt people
- They immediately give the adoptees PCJ and other good stuff, but not FOOM or MARS (or probably some other stuff)
- They do not ask for anything from the adoptee
- The war happens and some members of the adoptees die
- Mio, and probably others, are angry because they feel that those adoptees might not have died had they been given the good stuff
- The Gōketsu OPSEC policy is updated and everyone, including adoptees, is required to give up all their ninjutsu
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When you say the KEI Jutsu Exchange, do you mean the Official KEI Jutsu Exchange that we scared that one genin into going missing nin for having screwed over?
If so, I believe we adopted Jin and Mio after that event, in addition to the junior sealmaster and sealsmith.
There's also a chunnin(?) living on the estate who wants to be an Academy Teacher and wants to be adopted into the clan, but hasn't yet.
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How do they know about FOOM and MARS? Is it just base speculation on their part?
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I am also wondering how this can exist at the same time as below?
@RandomOTP Can you include one line about giving Harumitsu a written copy of Cannai's poem? See if it helps with the GS.
Did MARS even exist during the war? I don't recall.
FOOM isn't a possibility since we can't teach them SC. So we basically shared everything we had except (maybe) MARS.
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I'd rather do a whole Harumitsu segment instead. Trade that cold seal of his for some other stuff, and then also include thing about the poem.
Okay. You've got my vote.
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I don't think it got used until we went after the Squirrel Scroll, which was a few months post-war. So I don't think it did.
EDIT: war ended in Ch. 501, MARS was created in ch. 521.
But OTOH our fellow clansmen could just be in-character wrong that we were holding out on them.
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