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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Our girlfriend died and a hidden village got literally erased from existence. Those things don't blip for you?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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- Pacific standard
[X] [crack] Jashin, the newly frocked Priest of Hazō
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- Europe
[X] Interlude: Hazou has a sexy dream about Lady Jashin
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The only thing standing between this and canon status is asking Yuno to sew you a frock. She has the skills and the motivation.
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- United States
On a scale of 1-10, how fun would the following be?
[X] Interlude: Hiruzen and Jiraya Teach the Hyūga Elders the Pink Pony no Jutsu
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- Yes.
[X] Get Yuno and/or Hidan to make us a Jashin frock
[X] Whatever EJ wants to write, we trust him.
[X] Interlude: Hazou-Pilot and Ino Fairly Negotiate for Goo Bombs, in Good Faith, Like Reasonable Adults
[X] Interlude: Hazou-Pilot and Ino Fairly Negotiate for Goo Bombs, in Good Faith, Like Reasonable Adults
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- Location
- Pacific standard
[X] Interlude: Hiruzen and Jiraya Teach the Hyūga Elders the Pink Pony no Jutsu
[X] Whatever EJ wants to write, we trust him.
[X] Interlude: A puppetmaster no more
[X] Whatever EJ wants to write, we trust him.
[X] Interlude: A puppetmaster no more
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[X] Interlude: A puppetmaster no more
Give us the Sasori LORE
Give us the Sasori LORE
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Honestly, I don't think the two are all that mutually exclusive. Putting out fires may be necessary and important but it doesn't really create the strong narrative throughlines that you get when we're proactively actualizing our goals.
This encounter with Hidan and associated Jashinist fallout? Interesting, dangerous, important, but 100 chapters from now I probably wouldn't be able to place when in the timeline it happened. There are a lot of things like that, story arcs that flesh out "Hazou's adventures in Marked for Death" without feeling like they're integrated into the main story and core plot beats.
(Which, again, not to say they don't have an impact. Our talk with Hidan may have distracted Sasori and bought us extra time for necromancy, for instance.)
In the respect that we have been working on main plot stuff, we haven't seen a breakthrough yet. 3D Sealing is still languishing as a theoretical discipline, and necromancy progress is a bunch of seal research that hasn't paid out yet. Just as before, despite the plot points being important and necessary we aren't in a position to feel anything more than the investments we've spent. The tree is growing but there are not yet any fruits.
When we do strike gold, when the tree bears fruit and the main plot comes to a head as we make important decisions with the fate of the world in the balance, it'll all feel worth it because our eyes will be on the thing we achieved, with so much work put into it. But here and now we can only see the work put in, so the satisfaction of a goal well-achieved isn't real yet.
In another story, another world, we could have maybe skipped over all of this. A non-quest story could line up some dominoes and timeskip from the start of the necromancy grind to the day Hazou opens the rift. But part of MfD's quest nature is that, to earn our victories, we have to control Hazou every step of the way. Each seal in the Minato chain needs to be voted in, decisions to be made on the tradeoff between speed and safety, whether to multithread with SC and what else to research if so. This limbo period, where we put in work and it seems to lead nowhere yet, it's an unfortunate consequence of the fundamental nature of the game. But it won't last. It never does, we always find our way back to the main plot sooner or later, and then we'll save the world or doom it or whatever the cards have in store for us.
(Also, strictly personally, the EM cabal feels like a pretty "main plot" thing in my mind, so that big fancy Chapter 600 where it all comes to a head and the world is irrevocably changed as a result of it feels very much like meaningful motion to me. Regardless of whether it was a good decision or a bad one, a reading order list certainly wouldn't describe that chapter as skippable.)
Clarifying stagnancy interaction with sealing research
- Location
- USA
After receiving abundant feedback on how stagnancy might interact with sealing research, we want to make the following tentative statements about how we'll handle the interaction. As with stagnancy as a whole, these are all things that we're trialing – and if they end up producing unfun or unintended results, we'll simply change or remove them.
First, Hazō does not necessarily need to finish a project to remove stagnancy. Similarly, a single project may not necessarily be enough to remove stagnancy, if the complexity is low. Fewer rolls will be required the harder the project is.
Second, Hazō can roughly tell whether a project is likely to challenge him, and to what degree. For projects that he has more veterancy in, he'll only know after an infusion roll. For other projects in completely new domains, he may know after only a single prep day. This is because in newer domains, he can more easily understand what all he doesn't know and needs to learn, whereas in areas where he has veterancy, he needs to get more in the weeds to discern whether there's any new experiences for him to learn from.
Third, if you pick some axes of variation (e.g. numerical bonus, # of activations) and request that Hazō adjusts the project along the axes so that it removes stagnancy, we'll try our best to pick appropriately so that the project is difficult enough to remove stagnancy. Example:
An additional note: Hazō should try to remove sealing and combat stagnancy with his main body. Due to the inefficiency of SC memory-transfer, it will be much harder to remove stagnancy through Shadow Clones.
First, Hazō does not necessarily need to finish a project to remove stagnancy. Similarly, a single project may not necessarily be enough to remove stagnancy, if the complexity is low. Fewer rolls will be required the harder the project is.
Second, Hazō can roughly tell whether a project is likely to challenge him, and to what degree. For projects that he has more veterancy in, he'll only know after an infusion roll. For other projects in completely new domains, he may know after only a single prep day. This is because in newer domains, he can more easily understand what all he doesn't know and needs to learn, whereas in areas where he has veterancy, he needs to get more in the weeds to discern whether there's any new experiences for him to learn from.
Third, if you pick some axes of variation (e.g. numerical bonus, # of activations) and request that Hazō adjusts the project along the axes so that it removes stagnancy, we'll try our best to pick appropriately so that the project is difficult enough to remove stagnancy. Example:
- Research Reusable Rocket Boots (vary bonus, # of activations to remove stagnancy)
An additional note: Hazō should try to remove sealing and combat stagnancy with his main body. Due to the inefficiency of SC memory-transfer, it will be much harder to remove stagnancy through Shadow Clones.
I see you guys saw that one coming.
Given that you specified that it would be harder and didn't say impossible, does that mean that it is in fact, at least in theory possible to remove combat stagnacy with SC memory-transfer assuming a sufficiently large amount meaningful combat encounters are completed by a given characters' shadow clones?
Where's the conclave plot at? Did we come up with a non-getting-Kei-killed plan?
Waiting on the next update IIRC
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
Yet another problem that can be solved by necromancy! (Or, at least, greatly relaxed by lifting that annoying constraint.)
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] Hidan's assault of Rock, as seen from the perspective of an ordinary Rock-nin
[X] Hidan's assault of Rock, as seen from the perspective of an ordinary Rock-nin
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- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm never sure what to make of these posts. Surely if the suggestion is fun we will write it at some point, and if the suggestion is not fun we will ignore it. Beyond that, gauging something on a ten-point scale seems like too much effort for too little gain.
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- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It's possible, yes. It simply takes a lot more work.
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- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Shadow Clone was crafted for spycraft, not training. It's why the XP accrual from Shadow Clone training is so inefficient. Really, this just further compounds that fact.
"Technically possible, but difficult, since you're using a jutsu for a nonintended use."
"Technically possible, but difficult, since you're using a jutsu for a nonintended use."
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- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That did in fact happen, I wrote it, and for the life of me I can't find it. @faflec ? +1XP bounty for finding it so that I know I'm not crazy.
I really wish you had waited 24 hours to post this, because now it's going to look like I'm pandering. :/
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- United States