[X] Poll: Reusable Rocket Boots
[X] Poll: Goo Bombs

My recollections (which may or may not be based on the current system; Goo Bombs are old) tell me that they would work on what the sealmaster rolled when last inventing the seal, and if they wanted to make a better version they would need to re-research the seal using their better Sealing stat.
Oh damn, then we should wait for Eff 71 and dump 6 FP into invokes when we study this seal. That would give us a roll of 119(!) that we could spam.

Also could someone tell me what the Dragon's Roar Seal is? Is it different from 175 Db earbusters
 
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[X] Training Plan: Akane bump
Deceit 10 -> 20 (155 XP)
Alertness 42 -> 45 (132 XP)
Save 14 XP
MedKnow 10 -> 15 (65 Notes XP)
Save 1 notes XP

I'd kinda like to keep her primary stuff in the chuunin range for the mid term future. I was originally going to say we can make that jonin jump while she's learning summoning since it's basically 3 months guaranteed of uninterrupted WHOOSH, but I actually don't think it'll be late enough for that to happen unless we really twiddle our thumbs on getting the scroll and teaching her, since Detour 1 is going to take over a year. I'll post an outline regarding my preferences later, but of course not everyone shares the same concerns about promotion so feel free to post your own as well
 
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Levels deceit so def gets my vote

[X] Training Plan: Akane bump

Also could someone tell me what the Dragon's Roar Seal is? Is it different from 175 Db earbusters

It's a psychic attack that mimics the effects off the dragons mind bending roar. Iv describes it here
The basic idea is that we try to recreate the mind-bending roar that we've seen the Dragons do, make it into a seal that roars on command.

The hope, which I emphasize because as much as I want us to see where this opportunity goes I mustn't fool myself into thinking that I actually know how it will turn out when we try, is that the seal will make a psychic attack on everyone in the zone, using a TN defined by our Sealing at time of research, or something like that.

If it does indeed work like that, it becomes a really potent weapon for us Goketsu, scaling with Hazou's Sealing stat, but also not very useful for anyone else. Forcing a psychic attack on everyone in the zone ought to hurt you and your allies as well, but with our high Resolve we'd be able to tank it a lot better than whoever we're fighting. A genin might be able to carry one as a suicide technique or something, but that's about it. And since this seal is based on replicating impossible qualia delivered to us by the Dragons and their reality-shredding roars, it's also very plausibly something that no other EN sealmaster could have come up with.

So it's on my checklist of ideas I want to investigate. I'll be very happy if it turns out the way I hope, but even if I'm off in a few respects it sounds probably still worthwhile. Plus, it's really cool and ties into the whole Dragonwar part of our character story.
 
Is there a reason for Akane to train Deceit and not Presence? Both are currently at 10, and it seems like Presence would be a better fit for the way she does socials, IMO.
 
Is there a reason for Akane to train Deceit and not Presence? Both are currently at 10, and it seems like Presence would be a better fit for the way she does socials, IMO.
Infosec

Ami pointed out how bad Akane is at lying a decent while ago and we've got a lot of info worth hiding

Also the way socials work you can't really just have a single social stat you use for everything unless you're Orochimaru. Presence and deceit don't really do the same thing
 
I guess "I want to be a better liar" could be a nice thing to do with Ino. You go Akane !

[X] Training Plan: Akane bump
 
I think we should focus on getting alertness leveled up or highest as possible.

Why? If our MARS payload are already really good, it won't do us much good if we can't use it before an S-ranker kill us.

Think of it like IRL tank combat. Generally, the first one that got a shot off(and hit) kill opposing tank. It doesn't matter how powerful their cannon is if enemy tank can spot you and hit you before you could use your more powerful cannon.

The battle with Neck-nin would have gone very differently if the team were able to unleash their entire MARS payload arsenal.

With that in mind: I would like to propose a series of research projects into boosting our alertness.

Chakdar v3.0 - Pretty simple iteration. Gives us further range, with slight tuning to detect elemental chakra. This should gives us a further zone, which means we can detect opponents from zone 2.

Chakdar v4.0 or Networked Chakdar - Basically combine and network chakdar to each other, allowing greater extended range. I am not sure if it will improves alertness, or just give everyone increased detection range based on how far apart they are.

Now, we might consider evolving chakdar further, or go with a different sensory mode. The biggest weakness of chakdar is its inability to detect jutsu casting or RW. Chakdar works by detecting emission. So we need another method of detecting these things, or detect the ninja who might throw jutsu or RW at us.

We might want to research a motion tracker radar, which detects objects in motion. Not sure how it works. Maybe sending radar or sensing difference object's position? Either way, it will hopefully help us detect a kunai flying without the need to use our vision, or detect enemy ninja movement.

Another path we might take is active chakdar. Currently, chakdar doesn't work like radar do, but we could maybe replicate its effect, by making chakdar sends out chakra emission wave and receiving it back.

There are a bunch of other seals we could research: thermal vision, echolocation, light amplification(night vision) seal, and so forth.

There's even the concept of sensor fusion, which will hopefully allows us more warning.
 
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Of the seals that are highly voted enough to be worth considering voting for in the near future, I'd say that the Dragon's Roar and Reusable Rocket Boots are best relegated to later when our sealing is higher, because the former is esoteric enough that I can see it proving particularly difficult, and the latter is demonstrably not something we can do immediately, because Kagome -- who made them -- did not make them in that way, and his sealing is at about the same level ours is.

That leaves improved macerators -- other than the chakdar we're working on right now, of course -- which seems entirely reasonable, given that we made them when our Sealing was like, 20.
 
[X] Poll: Mars-3
[X] Poll: Marsfinity
[X] Poll: Infinitely Reusable Storage Seals
[X] Poll: Unbreakable Tripwire
[X] Poll: Reusable Rocket Boots

To clarify what some of those are:

Marsfinity - MARS but with the number of connective seals set at the time of scribing (seems like the next reasonable step, I think the difficult sealing question was figuring how to make it go from 1 seal activating multiple ones, and the multiple just happens to be "2" in this case).

Infinitely Reusable Storage Seals - Storage Seals only last 100ish activations, I want to increase that. A) That's important for the bank. B) That's important for a Perpetual Motion Machine that I've described previously. C) That will save an indeterminate amount of time in the future for Goketsu as whole given the amount of storage seals they use and how much they must go through on a regular basis. D) Would be a Goketsu flex.

Unbreakable Tripwire - the "tripwire" is already an invisible chakra construct, I want it to be tripped (and set off the corresponding seal) and then continue existing to retrigger the seal as many times as that seal is re-triggerable and the tripwire is tripped.

[X] Training Plan: Akane bump
 
[X] Poll: Mars-3
[X] Poll: Marsfinity
[X] Poll: Infinitely Reusable Storage Seals
[X] Poll: Unbreakable Tripwire
[X] Poll: Reusable Rocket Boots

To clarify what some of those are:

Marsfinity - MARS but with the number of connective seals set at the time of scribing (seems like the next reasonable step, I think the difficult sealing question was figuring how to make it go from 1 seal activating multiple ones, and the multiple just happens to be "2" in this case).

Infinitely Reusable Storage Seals - Storage Seals only last 100ish activations, I want to increase that. A) That's important for the bank. B) That's important for a Perpetual Motion Machine that I've described previously. C) That will save an indeterminate amount of time in the future for Goketsu as whole given the amount of storage seals they use and how much they must go through on a regular basis. D) Would be a Goketsu flex.

Unbreakable Tripwire - the "tripwire" is already an invisible chakra construct, I want it to be tripped (and set off the corresponding seal) and then continue existing to retrigger the seal as many times as that seal is re-triggerable and the tripwire is tripped.

[X] Training Plan: Akane bump

I think the Goketsu storage bank relied on storage seals sold to us after the tower rather than solely on the clan sealmaster. Also, storage seals lasting hundred of activiation means they probably don't eat up a lot of time, even with casual use. (5 to to ten times a day not much for 10 to 20 storage seal.

Also, Marsfinity and infinitely reusuable storage seal is probably wishful thinking. I imagine Marsfinity will need new circuit design for each increment. It also seems to be a limitation of technology as a discipline that no seal lasts forever. Frankly, no piece of human tech would last forever anyway.

It's probably possible to make reusuable storage seals that's basically good enough for a human lifetime, but not infinitely usuable.

Same for anything you want 'infinitely' reusuable.
 
[X] Poll: Improved Macerators
[X] Poll: jinchūriki Seals
[] Poll: Reusable Rocket Boots
[] Poll: Mars-3
[] Poll: Poison Gas Seal

[X] Poll: Force Wall Variant
[X] Poll: Isan Seals
[X] Poll: Sarubetsu Seals
[X] Poll: Goo Bombs
[] Poll: Dragon Roar Seal

The seals I've not voted for are either 'I don't see the value in doing this now' or 'this will probably go smoother after we finish the current Sealing push'. What's left on the list broadly includes A) combat seals we want and can easily do at our level, and B) those seals we still have no idea what they do, which I kinda sorta really want to figure out so we can put them to rest after grabbing any cool ideas we can from them.

edit: don't get me wrong though, I really really want to do the Dragon's Roar seal. I just think we're best off approaching it with eff Sealing 70 instead of eff Sealing 50, which means right here and now we should do something else instead.
Also the way socials work you can't really just have a single social stat you use for everything unless you're Orochimaru. Presence and deceit don't really do the same thing
More specifically, if you want to dumpstat a social stat you also need to ensure that you will never be in a situation where that's the only meaningful stat to roll. Hazou is not planning to level Intimidate because we do not anticipate him running into scenarios that Intimidate can solve but Presence can't, for instance.

Hazou, being a Clan Head and therefore a politician, is going to have to make a lot of social rolls that he can't really control. Akane has no such obligations and thus can afford a much sparser social suite, focusing on only the social stats that she expects will be useful to her. For instance, she might not need Presence if she doesn't intend to be a leader, instead arranging her role so that she relies solely on Rapport and Empathy.

However, being a WHOOSHer, Akane has secrets to keep and Deceit is important for that. Everyone who knows about WHOOSH needs Deceit just to help minimize our risk profile, so we can tack that stat onto whatever else they're maining.

[X] Training Plan: Akane bump
[X] Action Plan: The Previous Winning Plan
 
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I think the Goketsu storage bank relied on storage seals sold to us after the tower rather than solely on the clan sealmaster. Also, storage seals lasting hundred of activiation means they probably don't eat up a lot of time, even with casual use. (5 to to ten times a day not much for 10 to 20 storage seal.

Also, Marsfinity and infinitely reusuable storage seal is probably wishful thinking. I imagine Marsfinity will need new circuit design for each increment. It also seems to be a limitation of technology as a discipline that no seal lasts forever. Frankly, no piece of human tech would last forever anyway.

It's probably possible to make reusuable storage seals that's basically good enough for a human lifetime, but not infinitely usuable.

Same for anything you want 'infinitely' reusuable.

I agree none of these would really work infinitely, but "a lot more than the current version" is what I'm trying to get at, with impressive verbiage because image.

Physical wear and tear should be the demise of a storage seal, not 100ish activations of an otherwise pristine seal. If every storage seal used by every ninja is the decade long Goketsu version then that has so much low hanging social credit, and goodwill from the Tower for logistical and seal scribing time saving reasons.

Also, it gives Hazou veterancy in making seals more durable and reusable, which is exactly what a bunch of the other seal suggestions would like to do as well. Manipulating and improving one of the simplest seals to get veterancy seems like the best way to get that veterancy.

I still think that developing MARS into MARS-3 through 10 should be relatively small time commitments, and I was assuming the QMs would limit MARSfinity to a "don't abuse this, be reasonable what might fit work with it" standard. Functionally, MARS-10 gives Hazou as many simultaneous seal activations as he might reasonably want. 11 MARS-10s can give simultaneous activations to 100 seals, moving from that to "eh, call it MARSfinity and a good enough seal master (like Hazou) can turn a 10 into a 12, 15, 20, or whatever, just use a bigger piece of paper, so now we (the QMs) won't really keep track of it too closely unless you abuse it and, for example, try to set off a million seals without taking it into consideration."

@eaglejarl and @Velorien , does Hazou have an idea about how difficult these seals in the poll would be to create? Obviously his estimates can be completely wrong and he can underestimate or overestimate his ability and the seals' complexity, but as a ballpark idea?
 
[X] Training Plan: Akane bump

Elemental Mastery 40 is close for Akane. Two months of XP to get there from zero. Fills a missing slot in her pyramid.

Two tracks of seals. One group of seals to power up for the second trip to Neck. One group of seals for fixing the Great Seal + Necromancy. Want to start working on the seal to breach dimensions soon. Capture Bingo Book sealsmiths, teach them the seal and send them to the other side. Captured sealsmiths help with Great Seal repair too. Practice repairing normal damaged seals without causing scary failures.
 
[X] Training Plan: Akane bump

Elemental Mastery 40 is close for Akane. Two months of XP to get there from zero. Fills a missing slot in her pyramid.

Two tracks of seals. One group of seals to power up for the second trip to Neck. One group of seals for fixing the Great Seal + Necromancy. Want to start working on the seal to breach dimensions soon. Capture Bingo Book sealsmiths, teach them the seal and send them to the other side. Captured sealsmiths help with Great Seal repair too. Practice repairing normal damaged seals without causing scary failures.
I would like to make some seals for Tower use in order to get Noburi permission to leave

I mean technically Asuma didn't expressly forbid it he just implied he would be unhappy if Noburi left in the next 3-6 months (which was a little over 3 months ago) so this would help it go down smoother :V
 
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