That feels slightly different though? That's more him using the water as an external source, rather than him having it in the barrel permanently. He was talking about his bloodline for his normal VD uses, not whether him permanently being in cave bath mode with the water in his barrel might just permanently give him that benefit, which would be huge (especially with that triple cost)

Though maybe he said elsewhere that he tried the bath with his barrel and it didn't do anything, and I just missed it.
 
That feels slightly different though? That's more him using the water as an external source, rather than him having it in the barrel permanently. He was talking about his bloodline for his normal VD uses, not whether him permanently being in cave bath mode with the water in his barrel might just permanently give him that benefit, which would be huge (especially with that triple cost)

Though maybe he said elsewhere that he tried the bath with his barrel and it didn't do anything, and I just missed it.

Test using the pool water in Noburi's barrel/draining through it.
It was in the plan for that update and he said it didn't interact with his bloodline at all and that he can store chakra in it. I take that to mean he tried it in his barrel
 
It looks like the actual effect of the Chakrapool is to calm your Chakra, indirectly improving Chakrificiency. While replicating it with a seal or runes is one thing.. Have we tried drinking it? Bioengineering it into our Chakra system?

I suspect calmer chakra that follows orders more easily would probably be easier for Chakravores to drain. We should be more careful about that.
 
Does [Pink, blue, green, yellow, repeat] mean anything?
I guess we're probably not going to prioritize investigating the water further, but:
- If it doesn't work on shadow clones, it *probably* doesn't work on summons, but we could check.
- If it can't be stored, it *probably* can't be taken to the Seventh Path, but we could check.
Could be interesting to find out whether there's any significant IR or UV light in between the pink and blue phases.
If a bathtub half-full of pool-water is stored, then more water direct from the pool is added, how much does it take to restore the effect?
What about if the tub starts out with water from some other source?
If two such tubs are connected by a siphon, how much sooner does whoever's sitting in the one to which the water is being directly added notice the effect resuming, relative to someone sitting in the other tub?
Might provide theoretical insights into the broader "chakra diffusion problem," thus benefits to technique hacking which pushes the limits of range and/or duration.
Fair. That said, I think this is (yet more!) reason to research Remote Explosion Runes ASAP; knowing how far the "remote" modifier stretches would be extremely useful; even if it isn't the same between different rune effects, it gives us a better idea than we have now of how effective remote runes are likely to be.
Understanding more about how chakra diffusion works might also be relevant to that.
 
[X] Action Plan: Oh Boy Here I Go Researching Again

Some of you may know parts of this, but Naruto ordered Hazou on this mission, and he ordered Hazou and his team to go missing rather than return at Itachi's insistence.
Do you think we should include a pre-emptive statement about "why didn't you say this earlier" or is the response to that obvious enough
 
Sunday updates are EJ updates
oh!
non-OPSEC-violating speech added!
  • Uplifting Speech
    • Explain Time Runes and other research.
    • We can make the tools to win this.
    • We'll all become super-badasses in the process
    • When we do, Leaf will be desperate to welcome us back as a retroactive black-op.
    • We got this.
Just giving a rough outline/ key points to hit and leaving EJ space to do the rest. this should be pretty good.

Do you think we should include a pre-emptive statement about "why didn't you say this earlier" or is the response to that obvious enough
Because blabbling it id dumb and endangers our loved ones? better question, why would we say this now?
If nothing else, I think blabbing about this will lose us some trust and respect from our team.
Or at least make them much less comfortable trusting us with any secrets in the future.
 
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Hm, I want to do prep with the Great Seal, but I prefer not disclosing Naruto's plan more. Also what happens if there's a vote tie? Does QM just pick whichever one they prefer?

[X] Action Plan: Research and Pre-search
[X] Training Plan (Noburi): Ninjutsu Power
 
Because blabbling it id dumb and endangers our loved ones? better question, why would we say this now?
If nothing else, I think blabbing about this will lose us some trust and respect from our team.
Or at least make them much less comfortable trusting us with any secrets in the future.
Explain in what circumstance this endangers anyone.

If we're caught by Akatsuki it hardly matters if just Hazou knows or if the entire team knows.
 
Because blabbling it id dumb and endangers our loved ones? better question, why would we say this now?
If nothing else, I think blabbing about this will lose us some trust and respect from our team.
Or at least make them much less comfortable trusting us with any secrets in the future.
Nah these mfs are crazy unmotivated rn, they're just hoping for Hazou to pull a rabbit out of a hat - they think their lives are basically over (again). If they know they are fighting not just against Akatsuki but for something it changes things
 
Explain in what circumstance this endangers anyone.

If we're caught by Akatsuki it hardly matters if just Hazou knows or if the entire team knows.
It's possible not all of us will get nabbed, and Hazou is near-uniquely good at resisting direct interrogation.


Hazou has resolve: Yes and a chance to escape to the 7th path.

Tenten has resolve 20 and is stuck on the human path.

Kagome's Deciet is so bad that his resolve doesn't matter. He makes a great false information source if he thinks we genuinely went missing.
 
It's possible not all of us will get nabbed, and Hazou is near-uniquely good at resisting direct interrogation.


Hazou has resolve: Yes and a chance to escape to the 7th path.

Tenten has resolve 20 and is stuck on the human path.

Kagome's Deciet is so bad that his resolve doesn't matter. He makes a great false information source if he thinks we genuinely went missing.
If Hazou is nabbed, it's over, he's not resisting interrogation by Itachi.

Kei and Kagome both know Naruto ordered them to go research Akatsuki killing weapons, so your argument there is nonsensical. If they find either of one them they'll be destroying Leaf for sure.

So the only place this preserves any sort of OPSEC is if Hazou, Kei, and Kagome are killed or forced on to the Seventh Path permanently and some of the rest of the team is captured. Which means the quest is over. I find myself not caring what happens to Leaf in those circumstances.

This is basically zero additional risk on our part.
 
Trees of wood and iron and stone
Beware their shade, where my Lost Ones sing.

Beyond the trees my rest shall be
I leave there seven rocks with seven locks
Each rock a treasure's home
Treasures bright shall guidance give
Truth or death, no equal chance
To find the way to me.

@OrthernLight It's a bit of a stretch, but Orochimaru's cave could be one of the "seven rocks" mentioned in Cannai's poem housing some artifact or treasure. I wouldn't be too surprised if the pool itself is what the poem is pointing to, but I'd like to think there are other mysteries to find here. Still, supposing that the "Trees of wood and iron and stone" is describing the immediate area outside of the cave with the silvery shrubs, that seems like a point in our favor. In addition, we can point to the "shade" housing the "lost ones" as the otters and that tentacle thing we encountered.


"Yes," Hazō said. "Although not the deep desert." Turning, he surveyed the arid land around them. The tan-brown soil was working hard to achieve its lifelong goal of absolute desiccation. The land rolling like a sleepy sea, flat fat hills of widened girth and shortened stature, all covered in silver-green scrub and lichens and an occasional sapling stubbornly refusing to accept reality and move someplace decent. (Well, mostly. The team had passed one trio of migrating trees on the way here, and given them a wide berth.)

The crystals covered the walls of the cavern all the way to the distant (?) floor, their light causing the water to glow and sparkle

The crystals covering the walls and ceiling would act as the bright treasure that gives "guidance" in the poem. Whatever we decide to do, more investigation would help and ES has and will be key for further solving this mystery. Perhaps we'll find something at the bottom of the grotto or further into the cave. Sounds fun either way.

[X] Action Plan: Research and Pre-search
 
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It looks like the actual effect of the Chakrapool is to calm your Chakra, indirectly improving Chakrificiency. While replicating it with a seal or runes is one thing.. Have we tried drinking it? Bioengineering it into our Chakra system?

I suspect calmer chakra that follows orders more easily would probably be easier for Chakravores to drain. We should be more careful about that.

Of the disciplines Hazou has theoretical access to, it sounds like this would be easiest to replicate with either Biosealing or Minatosealing. Makes sense that the Sannin would would have easily been able to exploit it with all three of Oro - Jiraiya - Tsunade having partial or total expertise in Biosealing or its adjacent fields

IIRC Hazou has tons of TH XP available from notes - how realistic would it be to unlock Minatosealing within a month or two? The Minatosealing paradigm also lends itself well to direct persistent combat buffs, which would make combat unstagnation a lot less perilous.
 
Oh dang, we aren't actually going to tell people the truth of our assignment. I think this is the bad call and is going to diminish the effectiveness of our uplifting talk.
 
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