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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Lailoken said:
Yes..? I'm sorry, but I never know which step of the reasoning I'm starting from each time. Mistress "truth over the well" killed every part of herself unnecessary for the mission and threw the pieces down the well when Hazou ordered herself to get functional at any cost while she was at her most vulnerable. It's both her strength and her weakness as embodied by her personal, rule-breaking forbidden sacrificial genjutsu. Missing-nin Mari is dead and gone. We are confronted by the situationally convenient shreds worth preserving for the mission she was issued.
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We don't have any evidence that she can pick and choose what she sacrifices? In chapter 329 she was pretty suprised about the potential side effects of her genjutsu, if she even believed that it was because of that.

Lailoken said:
The Mari which was known is dead. She is basically starting over from Swamp of Death Mari.
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Why is the Swamp of Death the reset point and not any other? Or do I miss understand what you're trying to say?
 
current state of the plan

Oneiros said:
Word count: 276
[X] action plan: leafs falling slowly to the ground

Timeline: till Noburi completes his summoner training
  • Hazou sets his affairs in order before starting Summoning training.
    • Arrange for Mari, Gaku, or one of their subordinates to take over things Hazou would be doing during the training period (projects, meetings, etc.).
      • Hazou still expects daily briefings on important events and things that require Clan Head input.
  • The Talkwith Akane
    • Hazou and her clearly still have feelings for each other
      • He's realized that not everything is a tool to be optimized
      • That there are other things besides his goals
    • But with Summoning training if they got back together Hazou would be a terrible boyfriend
    • Also neither one of them has ever been in a relationship with anyone else.
      • plus they feel for each other in the most traumatic time in there lives
    • So Hazou proposes that after he finishes summoning training that they go on a series of casual dates
      • Just to ease back into a potential relationship without putting to much stress on either of them
    • Firmly state that if she comes up with novel applications of Gouketsu techniques or seals, she should inform him first.
  • Game night
    • Have a casual game night. Make sure to invite Sasuke and other peers
    • Have a fun and relaxed time
    • check with Mari first
      • casually let Sasuke know that if he makes a play for the porccupine scroll that we will back him. It'd be nice to have a friend to study with
  • Misc
    • Buy three telescopes. One for our use, one for study and another to be taken apart by our craftsmen
    • During summoning training, inquire in particular about what other Leaf summon clans think about the Dogs.
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We should check whether the Leaf ninja that got sent to check whether Rock got attacked have returned. If every village got attack maybe the attack was from Akatsuki
 
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Omake: Interlude: Dangerous Forbidden Techniques Are Forbidden For A Reason
  • Apocrypha
    • Interlude: Dangerous Forbidden Techniques Are Forbidden For A Reason​

    "I have finally found you, traitor scum!" Zabuza, the most handsome of ninja, said.

    "I'm sorry, what?" Itachi, the most jounin of ninja, replied.

    "It's time for the real battle of the gods. Prepare yourself and face me!"

    "But I am not even from your Village," Itachi pointed out reasonably.

    "That doesn't matter. You are a Missing-nin, I am a Hunter-nin, we complete each other."

    "I don't think that's how it works."

    "...Do you have anything better to do?"

    Itachi opened his mouth then abruptly closed it. He shrugged. "You make a good point. Our battle was foretold by the Sage himself. Probably."

    Zabuza was already forming seals, too fast for the normal eye to catch. But Itachi wasn't normal by any stretch of the imagination, his Sharingan already whirling while he was copying the seals.

    "Water Dragon Technique!" / "Water Dragon Technique!"

    Two equally sized water dragons crashed into each and cancelled each other out.

    Zabuza scowled and threw a kunai at Itachi which was intercepted by Itachi's own half-way on the dot.

    "Stop it!" / "Stop it!"

    "You are acting like a child, Itachi." / "You are acting like a child, Itachi."

    Zabuza paused. He didn't expect he'd have to use his trump card this early, but if that was what it took to win...

    "Sleep Beneath the Snow Technique!" Zabuza grabbed his heart exaggeratedly and gave Itachi a smile that was so smug it transcended even the best of face masks before falling face first on the ground. "Alas, I am slain."

    Itachi hesitated.

    He could have ended the match there and then but that'd be akin to admitting that there was a technique his Sharingan could not copy. So he did what any sane yet very competitive person would do.

    Itachi fell.

    "Sleep Beneath the Snow Technique!" he mumbled with a mouth full of earth.

    "..." / "..."

    They'd be lying there to this day, both of them occasionally opening an eye to check whether the other had moved yet - because being the first one to move meant you'd lost, obviously - if it weren't for Haku who came looking for Zabuza a week into the match.

    Zabuza and Itachi agreed that'd it had been a tie and that they'd not speak about this to anyone.

    ---

    I dunno, just felt that itch.
     
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  • Apocrypha
    • Lailoken said:
    I was betting on cation involvement, but they apparently focus on carbon ink. It seems as if they're might be something more metaphorical work? Something to investigate. Do chakra-inks made from inorganic sources still work?
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    And do seals that are infused by the same sealmaster who infused the ink work better? And do seals that are activated by the same sealmaster who infused the seal and the ink work better? Maybe Yin chakra isn't just "mental" chakra, but more "cognitive/identity" chakra? So if the ritual involves using the sealmaster's chakra to connect to the ink to the Out --which then allows for weird chakra stuff --then maybe the ink connects to Out through the Yin chakra of the sealmaster who infuses it? Of course, this is assuming that most people have some sort of connection to the Out, like Dragon Age's Fade.
     
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    Kiba said:
    You do realize that if we wait until Noburi, we get more timeskips in total? Not to mention we are already committed to training, and Asuma would be angry with us if we delay training.
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    I don't care about the # of timeskips. I care about their length. Splitting a timeskip into parts is preferable for me.
    I'm not saying to delay training. We timeskip till Noburi finishes training. In that timeskip Hazou trains. Once Noburi finish training we have an update where Hazou can do new stuff in his limited time.
     
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    Adhoc vote count started by eaglejarl on Jun 23, 2020 at 2:08 PM, finished with 207 posts and 27 votes.
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    @Inferno Vulpix I'll vote for your plan if you include the "...Perhaps we should go on some casual dates in a few months to feel things out...?" bit as a bookend to the Akane talk.
     
    MMKII said:
    @Inferno Vulpix I'll vote for your plan if you include the "...Perhaps we should go on some casual dates in a few months to feel things out...?" bit as a bookend to the Akane talk.
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    Sure. I cut that line from the plan in favour of 'what does Akane want to do?' but there's no reason the two lines can't get along.
    Inferno Vulpix said:
    Fork of Oneiros' plan, handling some things a little different:

    Wordcount: 211
    [X] Action Plan: Leaves on the tree
    Timeline: until Noburi completes his summoner training
    • Hazou sets his affairs in order before starting Summoning training.
      • Arrange for Mari, Gaku, or one of their subordinates to take over things Hazou would be doing during the training period (projects, meetings, etc.).
        • Hazou still expects daily briefings on important events and things that require Clan Head input.
    • The Talkwith Akane. In addition:
      • Hazou and Akane clearly still have feelings for each other.
        • But right now Summoning training would get in the way of any kind of relationship. Akane deserves better.
        • What does she want to do? You won't and can't decide what should happen alone.
        • Maybe we chould go on some casual dates once training finishes, to feel things out?
      • Share the concept of FOOM with Akane, in high-security conditions.
        • Convey both the kind of benefits she could gain from it and the importance of keeping it secret from the likes of Orochimaru.
    • Game night
      • Have a casual game night. Make sure to invite Sasuke and other peers.
      • Have a fun and relaxed time.
    • Misc
      • Have the clan track down and offer adoption to the family of telescope merchants/manufacturers.
        • Failing that, buy three telescopes.
      • During summoning training, inquire in particular about what other Leaf summon clans think about the Dogs.


    Changelog:
    • We share FOOM with Akane instead of vaguely alluding to the value of SC, as per my suggestion for maximum safety.
    • Porcupine Scroll line removed, as I think it's best if we leave that be.
    • Re-worded Akane section, to streamline it and (I feel) convey the key points more clearly.
    These aren't ironclad changes, but each of them I feel is better than Oneiros' plan, to a varying degree.
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    Inferno Vulpix said:
    Sure. I cut that line from the plan in favour of 'what does Akane want to do?' but there's no reason the two lines can't get along.
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    Appreciated.

    [X] Action Plan: Leaves on the tree

    I am generally supportive of these two individuals working out any complications in their personal lives and acquiring some semblance of happiness for the remainder of their statistically-short(months for Hazou, a year and change for Akane, probably) lifespans.
     
    Inferno Vulpix said:
    Sure. I cut that line from the plan in favour of 'what does Akane want to do?' but there's no reason the two lines can't get along.
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    I have to say, I dislike the change. I'll still likely stay my vote, because even with it I prefer your plan to others. I just worry that suggesting casual dates with our clanmate/good friend/first love might give an incorrect impression, and also isn't likely to work. Even just phrasing it as "want to be mindful of the pace, so we don't rush into it and remake prior mistakes" would be better, imo.

    Edit: @MMKII would that rephrase push you back towards not voting for it?
     
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    Halberdier said:
    Even just phrasing it as "want to be mindful of the pace, so we don't rush into it and remake prior mistakes" would be better, imo.

    Edit: @MMKII would that rephrase push you back towards not voting for it?
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    I'm totes fine with that as an additional bullet clarifying the matter.
     
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