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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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faflec said:
The other Kages (save Ren), Terumi Mei, the Jinchuriki, possibly Kakashi and Guy. Off-screen characters are a possibility, though unknown.

I don't think Ryugamine was S-rank, though TBF he's certainly close.
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Don't forget the entirety (or almost the entirety) of Akatsuki.
 
faflec said:
I don't think Ryugamine was S-rank, though TBF he's certainly close.
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Pretty sure he is, Jiraiya can "only" take him 3 out of 4 times (according to Jiraiya, who took on Konan and Sasori together):

Velorien said:
Jiraiya reckoned he could take Ryūgamine three times out of four
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MMKII said:
Ah, I did a dumb. I swear that wasn't there before!
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I am sorry buddy, it's time for your Alzheimer medicine.
 
faflec said:
My impression of that quote was in the context of diplomacy, not overall S-rankyness.
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Velorien said:
On even footing, Jiraiya reckoned he could take Ryūgamine three times out of four—but there was no such thing as even footing against a shinobi who never held back, never ran out of firepower and never left anything to chance. Jiraiya should have hated the bastard after everything he'd done, and without a doubt, that woman was watching to see if he'd let his emotions cloud his judgement when suddenly faced with an old foe. But Jiraiya had found, during the war, that by the time you were waist-deep in blood you started to care less which of a thousand enemies had spilled it, and while he might never forgive the man for what he'd done, he wasn't going to spend nights awake thinking about him either.
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Old man Ryu killed some Leaf/allied nin, pretty sure it's more about combat than diplomacy.

I also think Ryu is better at diplomacy or else Jiraiya wouldn't have such trouble with Mist, also the whole chapter is called "Tonight we Dine in Hell".
 
ContextBot said:
Old man Ryu killed some Leaf/allied nin, pretty sure it's more about combat than diplomacy.

I also think Ryu is better at diplomacy or else Jiraiya wouldn't have such trouble with Mist, also the whole chapter is called "Tonight we Dine in Hell".
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He melted into her arms, not caring—because she did not—that her spotless uniform was now covered with a dozen shinobi's blood.

"Ryū…" she whispered. "Then… you lost?"

Ryū gave a bitter laugh. "We won, Raito. This is the face of victory."

"I don't understand. If you won, where's everyone else?"

"Where do you think?" he snapped, pushing himself off her.

"No, sorry," he muttered. "None of this is your fault.

"We won. We eliminated the sealmasters before they could complete the arrays. Their guards seemed to have no concept of coordinated area control. An overlap of three taijutsu specialists, can you imagine? Not a single casualty among us."

"Then…"

"Then three shinobi from Leaf came out of nowhere. Just three, Raito!"

"I know the ones," Raito said grimly, looking back at the medical tent.

"There were fifteen of us. Some of us had over half our chakra left. Terumi still had his ninjutsu active.

"We were unprepared. I was unprepared. Fifteen against three. We should have sent them to the ancestors in six seconds flat. Instead, Akagi covered my retreat with her barrier while everyone else died behind me. Someone had to report, she said. Someone had to live."

"That poor girl," Raito whispered. "She promised me she'd found someone else…"

"What?"
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The Sannin weren't present when Ryugamine's squad killed the Leaf-nin, and once they did show up everyone on his squad died but the man himself, who was forced to run. Ryugamine only was able to think of better options after the fact.

He's certainly got a reputation for being among the strongest Jonin in Mist, but his read of this is due to his competence at planning as opposed to pure combat skill. So basically he's Mist's equivalent of Shikaku.

Also, if he were so strong he ought to have been part of the Mist strike force against Naruto.
 
faflec said:
The Sannin weren't present when Ryugamine's squad killed the Leaf-nin, and once they did show up everyone on his squad died but the man himself, who was forced to run. Ryugamine only was able to think of better options after the fact.

He's certainly got a reputation for being among the strongest Jonin in Mist, but his read of this is due to his competence at planning as opposed to pure combat skill. So basically he's Mist's equivalent of Shikaku.

Also, if he were so strong he ought to have been part of the Mist strike force against Naruto.
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There is such a thing as putting all your eggs in one basket, and I see no reason to have your "Absolute Master of'Just As Planned no Jutsu' " take to the battlefield for any singular mission when he can just continuously optimize things fed to him from afar/before the fact.
 
I'm not sure if a sky ship is necessarily possible at the moment but I had a couple thoughts on it

Assuming we could un/activate the skywalkers from a distance (which we currently can't but it's a hypothetical) we could flatten the bottom of the ship, line the skywalkers around the edges, and split them into two sets that alternate activation so that half is always on when the other half is off. We build long wheels/treads on the sides of the ship, which the activated skywalkers overlap under, then the wherls just drive on top of the shifting domes under it.

Obviously this has a bunch of problems we would need to look into but it's a basic concept.
 
MMKII said:
Depends on if the terminal velocity of your delivery method is S-ranker interceptable or not.
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This makes me wonder, have there been any workable thoughts on ways to use seals to make things invisible?

My only thought is using a storage seal to store light, but the tricky thing is replacing the image of the person with the image of the stuff behind them so you don't just have a black void. I'm not sure if you could continuously store light coming toward a person and unstore it on the other side in the original configuration.
 
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faflec said:
possibly Kakashi and Guy
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Cannon!Guy is 100% S ranked. He very nearly punched Madara to death.

While reading the wiki, and accepting what google told me was a list of S rankers, I found someone interesting:

Chiyo. First thing, old ninja, so be terrified. Second, she has the most bonkers diverse skill set.
  • Skilled enough at sealing to put the tailed beast into Gaara (So not as good as Minato or Jiraiya, because Gaara's seal is messed up, according to cannon)
  • Puppet Expert
  • Poison expert
  • Med nin
  • Genjutsu
  • Strong enough to survive direct confrontations with Hanzo, who only died to all three sannin.
 
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