So, I'm not entirely sure how well this event will function... Thinking it through, genin have to spend at least half the time of the event not in henge. If they're seen not in henge, they're disqualified. If their henge is popped publically, they're (assumed to be) disqualified. Henges are not hard to pop, as shown by the Hot Springs innkeep. I fully expect to see loads of bumbling servants dropping hot beverages on people, etc.

Publically disqualified ninja have no incentive not to fuck with other contestants. Their only incentive is to not pop other contestants' henges. In fact, once enough of them are disqualified, there may be too many for the proctors to keep track of. They will be fully capable of causing mayhem in any number of alternate henges.

I also expect to see the servants walking out of this event quite a bit richer.

Are these consequences of the event things that you guys have accounted for @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail?
 
...Why do you feel that way?

That seems more like bias-on-the-side-of-having-caused the incident in question to me, though perhaps you feel differently? I'm not sure why someone would interpret it that way when it's in the context of "With how hard they came down on lizardbreath, we really don't want to be caught out for doing illicit things while on duty..."

Mostly that it feels like the main reason we're bringing it up is because we caused it, and the way it's phrased in the plan feels less like the way you've put it here. But also, why would someone suspect that we're up to anything illicit because we forgot something? It seems like a huge jump. There's got to be a way to express concern that we've screwed up without going all the way up to the guy who was literally high and acting violent in a bloody school.
 
So, I'm not entirely sure how well this event will function... Thinking it through, genin have to spend at least half the time of the event not in henge. If they're seen not in henge, they're disqualified. If their henge is popped publically, they're (assumed to be) disqualified. Henges are not hard to pop, as shown by the Hot Springs innkeep. I fully expect to see loads of bumbling servants dropping hot beverages on people, etc.

Publically disqualified ninja have no incentive not to fuck with other contestants. Their only incentive is to not pop other contestants' henges. In fact, once enough of them are disqualified, there may be too many for the proctors to keep track of. They will be fully capable of causing mayhem in any number of alternate henges.

I also expect to see the servants walking out of this event quite a bit richer.

Bribing a servant to pop someone's henge counts as popping their henge, and it's not like a servant isn't going to give up the person who bribed them if any person in authority at Mist asks. Genuinely accidentally popping a henge by a servant should be uncommon. Servants do not usually drop stuff on guests. The Hot Springs thing was kind of a freak occurrence.

The trouble is, it seems like there is no language or threats the proctors can use warning against popping henges that is taken seriously.

Let me ask, if you wanted to come up with some set of exam rules/conditions that would get exam participants to:

A. Don't try to pop the henges of other exam participants.

B. Don't leave your own henge.

What would you have the proctors say? What does it take, in terms of strength of language, in terms of penalties, in terms of outright begging, "This is not what we want to see out of the event; don't do it?"

Here's what I would go with:

PROCTORS: Look, here's what we want out of this Event. We want you to not pop anyone's henge and we want you to stay in your own henge. We are trying to evaluate your infiltration and social interaction skills, not your skills at getting around the rules. So don't do it. I know you already have a clever idea how to get away with it, but don't. Don't fucking do it. Don't. Do not. Don't. I'm not going to give you a list of rules to work around. What you need to understand is that we have eyes everywhere and a lot of latitude to my on-the-fly decisions to make sure that this Event tests what we want it to test. If a henge pops, we're going to move in and put some effort into finding out how it happened and why it happened, we're going to figure out who is responsible, verify it, and then we're going to do whatever it takes rectify the situation to get things back on track and make sure the effort doesn't profit those responsible and doesn't injure those who didn't intend to leave their henge.
 
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Bribing a servant to pop someone's henge counts as popping their henge, and it's not like a servant isn't going to give up the person who bribed them if any person in authority at Mist asks. Genuinely accidentally popping a henge by a servant should be uncommon. Servants do not usually drop stuff on guests. The Hot Springs thing was kind of a freak occurrence.

The trouble is, it seems like there is no language or threats the proctors can use warning against popping henges that is taken seriously.

Let me ask, if you wanted to come up with some set of exam rules/conditions that would get exam participants to:

A. Don't try to pop the henges of other exam participants.

B. Don't leave your own henge.

What would you have the proctors say? What does it take, in terms of strength of language, in terms of penalties, in terms of outright begging, "This is not what we want to see out of the event; don't do it?"

Here's what I would go with:

PROCTORS: Look, here's what we want out of this Event. We want you to not pop anyone's henge and we want you to stay in your own henge. We are trying to evaluate your infiltration and social interaction skills, not your skills at getting around the rules. So don't do it. I know you already have a clever idea how to get away with it, but don't. Don't fucking do it. Don't. Do not. Don't. I'm not going to give you a list of rules to work around. What you need to understand is that we have eyes everywhere and a lot of latitude to my on-the-fly decisions to make sure that this Event tests what we want it to test. If a henge pops, we're going to move in and put some effort into finding out how it happened and why it happened, we're going to figure out who is responsible, verify it, and then we're going to do whatever it takes rectify the situation to get things back on track and make sure the effort doesn't profit those responsible and doesn't injure those who didn't intend to leave their henge.
The thing is, getting around the rules effectively and without anyone realizing should be rewarded.

(For instance, another problem with the event: approaching a servant in the guise of a known competitor (probably one of the contenders for the tournament) and asking them to pop a henge. They do so, tournament contender loses 200 points. What else can they do?)

...But the thing is, also, there's a lot of ninja who think they're a lot more clever than they are. For instance, Neji. And that Rock group that had the bright idea of locking their proctor up for the duration of the last exam. You know what else this specific exam means? Those ninja who think they're a lot more clever than they are will have their "cleverness" untempered by their teams.

e: Honestly, this is making me realize that we really need a contingency as follows:

Contingency:
  • In case of unforeseen life threatening emergency -- fire, collapsing building, etc -- first perform a dispel, then report to nearest proctor (if during an event) or Leaf jounin (if not during an event) for instructions.
    • If circumstances warrant such, offer Hazou's assistance however he can.
    • The lives of civilians and ninja present take precedence over the exams.
 
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It sounds like ninja who have been publicly disqualified should be promptly removed from the premises, both for their sake and everyone else's, and that this should include the ninja who publicly do the popping (to prevent the sacrificial lamb strategy).

I wouldn't worry about the servants too much. Think about what it means for a low-class civilian to defy the government in Mist, which is what they'd be doing if they didn't follow the instructions they'd been given to the letter (whatever those instructions might be).

In regard to the merits and rewards of getting around the rules effectively... I had a whole discussion of this written out, then realised it would constitute a potential spoiler for how to best approach the remaining events. Suffice it to say that this is a good case for applying the wisdom of Hatake Kakashi.
 
It sounds like ninja who have been publicly disqualified should be promptly removed from the premises, both for their sake and everyone else's, and that this should include the ninja who publicly do the popping (to prevent the sacrificial lamb strategy).

I wouldn't worry about the servants too much. Think about what it means for a low-class civilian to defy the government in Mist, which is what they'd be doing if they didn't follow the instructions they'd been given to the letter (whatever those instructions might be).

In regard to the merits and rewards of getting around the rules effectively... I had a whole discussion of this written out, then realised it would constitute a potential spoiler for how to best approach the remaining events. Suffice it to say that this is a good case for applying the wisdom of Hatake Kakashi.

Entirely unrelatedly, we should send Panashe after wherever that concrete was being dragged off to right now.
 
Suffice it to say that this is a good case for applying the wisdom of Hatake Kakashi.

"Looking underneath the underneath", huh? Which, at least in canon, usually meant "things are not as they initially seem". The first use of that saying was, if I remember correctly, for praising Team 7 to ignore the obvious rule of not feeding Naruto when he was tied to a stump.

Well, consider me stumped.
I wonder if this means we should look at what the event is supposed to represent for Mist or if it just means we should try some out of the box thinking. Or deliberately disobey some rules (really not sure about this one)?

Or alternatively take a more literal approach and have Hazo spend all of his time with his head down in the earth.
 
"Looking underneath the underneath", huh? Which, at least in canon, usually meant "things are not as they initially seem". The first use of that saying was, if I remember correctly, for praising Team 7 to ignore the obvious rule of not feeding Naruto when he was tied to a stump.

Well, consider me stumped.
I wonder if this means we should look at what the event is supposed to represent for Mist or if it just means we should try some out of the box thinking. Or deliberately disobey some rules (really not sure about this one)?

Or alternatively take a more literal approach and have Hazo spend all of his time with his head down in the earth.
There are a number of "obvious rules" here, among which is "don't leave the exam site or lose 1000 points". The "don't be seen unhenged" rule was addressed by Velorien just above, indicating it is in fact their intent that it be followed, but the other one, not so much.

I trust that the hivemind would have already come up with ways to twist the rules to their advantage if it were as simple as "ignore this rule to get 10,000 easy points!!!", but that leaves what we have to do when breaking the rule with major consequences.

I mean, what is the reason behind saying "don't leave the event site on pain of point loss"? Why bother? I suppose you could just bugger off once you've got your secret partner otherwise, true.

So, assuming we've actually managed to find anything out on what they're talking about, I suspect that it would be something to do with the concrete being carted out of the city.
 
"Looking underneath the underneath", huh? Which, at least in canon, usually meant "things are not as they initially seem". The first use of that saying was, if I remember correctly, for praising Team 7 to ignore the obvious rule of not feeding Naruto when he was tied to a stump.

Or it could be his lesser known advice of wearing another mask underneath your first mask.

Would it be possible to fake having a henge pop? We could add another layer to the deception if we could program a clone to look and act like a proctor escorting us away if we have the time and preparation. This would require sacrificing our first disguise, but there's nothing in the rules stating we have to keep the exact same disguise the entire time, IIRC.

Something worth considering at least.
 
Could we stay in a restroom 24/7? The use some extrasensory jutsu to identify people.
 
Could we stay in a restroom 24/7? The use some extrasensory jutsu to identify people.
None of our extrasensory jutsu, with the exception of Vampiric Dew, can do that. Vampiric Dew itself has the limit of requiring a water-based connection, which may be difficult to obtain if we're not in a bathhouse. And then there's the issue of people noticing we're there 24/7 and deducing we're a ninja as a result of that.
 
Do we have shadow clone jutsu? Or even the academy clone jutsu?

Can such clones henge?
 
Do we have shadow clone jutsu? Or even the academy clone jutsu?

Can such clones henge?
We don't have Shadow clones, Academy clones can't Henge. We do have some elemental clones (Earth Clone for Hazou, Water Clone for Noburi) that can Henge, but these things a) can't use bloodlines; b) have 1/3 our skill, which means their ability to stay unnoticed will be a lot worse; c) cost a lot of chakra to make; and d) don't last very long.
 
As far as coming up with clever tricks to score extra points, here are my observations based on what has worked for Hazou's teams and other teams in past events.

1. KISS. Keep it simple, stupid. One simple cheat that can be leveraged for a score boost is more robust than a series of complicated series of schemes with a lot of failure points.

2. Look to your own score first. Making other people lose points is a trap. There are 150 exam participants left. Making one person lose points improves your position relative to one person. Adding to your own point total improves your position relative to everyone.
 
As far as coming up with clever tricks to score extra points, here are my observations based on what has worked for Hazou's teams and other teams in past events.

1. KISS. Keep it simple, stupid. One simple cheat that can be leveraged for a score boost is more robust than a series of complicated series of schemes with a lot of failure points.

2. Look to your own score first. Making other people lose points is a trap. There are 150 exam participants left. Making one person lose points improves your position relative to one person. Adding to your own point total improves your position relative to everyone.
As regards number two, yes and no. We know several of the top teams, and disadvantaging them is significantly more to our advantage than generic team 143.

e: Oh, on that note, we can probably assume Team Downfall is one of the top Mist teams.
 
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As far as coming up with clever tricks to score extra points, here are my observations based on what has worked for Hazou's teams and other teams in past events.

1. KISS. Keep it simple, stupid. One simple cheat that can be leveraged for a score boost is more robust than a series of complicated series of schemes with a lot of failure points.

2. Look to your own score first. Making other people lose points is a trap. There are 150 exam participants left. Making one person lose points improves your position relative to one person. Adding to your own point total improves your position relative to everyone.

This. So much this. Especially on the first one. Simple plans will generally be more effective than complex ones. Higher complexity means more points of failure, which means a higher chance of one of those points being hit.

The op with Old Lizardbreath is a good example of simple. Get in to the low security area, drug the booze and plant the evidence, get out. It was a stupidly simple operation, but achieved large effects because the target was well chosen.
 
I think we are still missing a key component to this event:

"And after he packed it all up, he went out of the city," Inuzuka said. "Me and Akamaru tracked him the whole way. He stopped off at this blacksmith shop to pick up a pair of lockboxes. They were each about as big as me, solid metal, and the proctor couldn't lift them on his own. He and another proctor put 'em on a wagon along with a bunch of tools and went out the east gate."

"What kind of tools?" Nara demanded.

Inuzuka shrugged. "Carpentry stuff, I guess? Hammers, saws, nails, that kind of thing. Also a lot of sand and ash, for some weird reason."

"It was probably lime, not sand," Yamamoto said. "For making concrete."

Inuzuka shrugged. "Yeah, I guess. Anyway, they're clearly building something outside the city."

"That doesn't fit well with the idea of a big party in a mansion," Akane said. "Maybe it's for the following event?"

A new building being built outside of the city that completes conveniently when the party ends is rather is suspicious, isn't it? Especially if the proctor let himself be seen by Kiba so this should be information we are supposed to know.
There is also the fact that leaving the mansion grounds is not just worth a disqualification but worth -1000 points. They really want to discourage us from leaving but why? Is this a test? Are we not supposed to see what they building because it would trivilaize the next event?

What if the ballots are not being cast in the mansion but at the new place they built and anyone who stayed at the mansion until the end effectively loses the ability to score points?

Does anyone else have theories about this? I think this has a high chance of being relevant for the current event and not (just) for the next.

Here are the rules again, I bolded what I think are the important parts:
"There will be a party in the house running from sunset today until sunset tomorrow. Leaving the estate grounds during this time will cost you one thousand points and will disqualify you from the event. The purpose of the event is to identify the other guests at the party. The event uses individual scoring, so you are competing against your teammates.

"Each participant in the event will be given a civilian role and a physical description. You must use henge to maintain both throughout the duration of the event. There will be break rooms scattered around in which you can drop your disguise for a time in order to avoid transformation sickness. You will receive a summary of all roles at the beginning of the event, although obviously you will not be told which of the other roles are assigned to which person.

"Some of the 'guests' at the party will be proctors, while others will be real civilians and fellow contestants. Being seen by a proctor without your assigned disguise is grounds for immediate disqualification. You will not be told that you have been disqualified. If you are disqualified then you will no longer be able to gain points for the event, but will still be able to lose them. You lose two hundred points every time you cause someone's disguise to break, regardless of whether you do it yourself, induce someone else to do it, or simply do it by accident. Proctors decide who loses the points and if there's any doubt then they'll just choose everyone nearby who might conceivably have been involved.

"At the end of the event, there will be a closed ballot for which roles belong to ninja. For each ninja you correctly identify, you gain points and they lose the same amount. You gain additional points for being able to specify that ninja's name, team affiliation, and/or village of origin, and they lose the same amount. There is no penalty if these extra details are wrong. You lose points for each proctor and/or civilian you name.

"In addition to their civilian role, each participant is given a secret identity. A list of all secret identities will likewise be provided at the beginning of the event. Secret identities come in pairs, such as 'spy and handler'. If you correctly identify your counterpart during the ballot, both you and they gain points—quite a lot more points then you get simply for identifying someone as a ninja, in fact. If you fail to identify your counterpart then both of you lose points. If you correctly identify the secret identity of anyone other than your counterpart then you gain points and that person loses points."

"If a servant sees anyone who is not on the guest list, they are permitted to slap them in order to check for henge. Reacting violently to a servant checking you for henge will be met with extremely harsh collateral damage penalties, so don't do it. Servants may disclose information to proctors about anyone they spot as a ninja. The proctors may, at their option, spread this information around."

It sounds like ninja who have been publicly disqualified should be promptly removed from the premises, both for their sake and everyone else's, and that this should include the ninja who publicly do the popping (to prevent the sacrificial lamb strategy).

Paging @eaglejarl @OliWhail as well:

Any chance we could get some clarifications on these questions:

- Hazo will get disqualified if a proctor catches him without his henge but Hazo will not be told that he is DQed; so what if Hazo deliberately disqualifies himself by unhengeing in front of a proctor (assume that he does it in a way only a proctor sees him) and then leaves the mansion? Does he still lose the 1000 points for leaving considering he is not participating in the event anymore? EDIT: The rules do say you can still lose points even if DQed but this part isn't clear:
What if he reenters and leaves the grounds again, does he lose 1000 points each time?

- What would happen if a random genin henges as Hazo (after, say, coming out of a break room so people don't know who it is)? Does the genin get DQed or does Hazo for being spotted out of henge (if the latter, this could be a massive exploit to get rid off any ninja whose physical appearance you remember at no cost)? The rules don't state this clearly and it could go either way, i.e. does the proctor check if it's the real Hazo by pricking him or just quietly disqualifies him and potentially spreads the information that this genin is a ninja/Hazo to other participants?

Note that proctors can control a lot of the information flow by throwing out hints about ninjas they (or the servants) saw unhenged. In addition, we should be at the lookout for servants talking to proctors about this. How do the servants know who is a proctor and who is not? Were they told in advance or are there unhenged proctors in obvious locations? If the former, this would help in IDing at least some proctors.
 
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A new building being built outside of the city that completes conveniently when the party ends is rather is suspicious, isn't it? Especially if the proctor let himself be seen by Kiba so this should be information we are supposed to know.
There is also the fact that leaving the mansion grounds is not just worth a disqualification but worth -1000 points. They really want to discourage us from leaving but why? Is this a test? Are we not supposed to see what they building because it would trivilaize the next event?

What if the ballots are not being cast in the mansion but at the new place they built and anyone who stayed at the mansion until the end effectively loses the ability to score points?

Does anyone else have theories about this? I think this has a high chance of being relevant for the current event and not (just) for the next.

My theory is this has a high chance of being relevant only for the next event and has not a thing to do with the current event.
 
As far as coming up with clever tricks to score extra points, here are my observations based on what has worked for Hazou's teams and other teams in past events.

1. KISS. Keep it simple, stupid. One simple cheat that can be leveraged for a score boost is more robust than a series of complicated series of schemes with a lot of failure points.

2. Look to your own score first. Making other people lose points is a trap. There are 150 exam participants left. Making one person lose points improves your position relative to one person. Adding to your own point total improves your position relative to everyone.

To add a few of my own:

3. Breaking character costs points.
You want Keiko to summon Pangolins for something or other? It will be difficult to find a sufficiently private spot, and we should assume that they're all under some kind of surveillance. This loses her points for being identified, and the loss should be subtracted from the expected gain of the whole scheme. This applies to any character-breaking action, be it cutting hand seals for a jutsu or talking about plans directly.

4. Time is limited.
We can't do everything. As such, every idea should be weighed against the baseline of just walking around and looking for ninja or our secret counterpart. If the benefit isn't substantially greater, there's no reason to do it. Our normal modus operandi of just throwing everything in the plan to see what works is actively harmful for this event.
 
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My theory is this has a high chance of being relevant only for the next event and has not a thing to do with the current event.

It's possible the next event might occur almost immediately after the current one, and people who hadn't already managed to get information about it will be forced to turn in word halves to manage to get there on time.
 
As regards number two, yes and no. We know several of the top teams, and disadvantaging them is significantly more to our advantage than generic team 143.

e: Oh, on that note, we can probably assume Team Downfall is one of the top Mist teams.

By the same logic, there's a huge target on Hazou's back. Yet another reason to be very, very cautious about any strategy that allows anyone to know who he is. If even one person finds out, they have motivation to spread his identity around to the entire party to lower his score as much as possible.
 
Interlude: Tonight We Dine in Hell

"Inoue Ruriko is in good health," the Mizukage said, taking a casual sip of wine as if to emphasise that this one statement was not an attempt to mess with Jiraiya's mind. "I considered inviting her to this impromptu family gathering, but ultimately I decided not to usurp your role as bearer of good news."

Family gathering. Sure. Mori Biwako had decided to introduce him to her husband Ryūgamine, as if he and Jiraiya hadn't already met over the bodies of Jiraiya's slaughtered comrades. Wakahisa Kenichi, the good magistrate to the Mizukage's evil magistrate, qualified as well, and was a barrel of laughs when it came to stories of his former clansman. But Keiko and Noburi's actual parents were conspicuously absent, to say nothing of Hazō's mother. The best Jiraiya was going to get was this Ami girl, the older sister Keiko never mentioned, and she could be trouble on a whole other level. Jiraiya still hadn't worked out why she was there or what her game was, and it was only a matter of time before she used that innocent façade of hers to stick some diplomatic dagger in his back.

But that was a trap for later in the evening. Right now, Jiraiya had other problems. That woman had just given him the name and address of Mari's mother, who was some lowly innkeeper with no idea about wider political events. Now Jiraiya either had to go and tell her that her daughter was marrying him, Mist's arch-nemesis, or not go and tell her that her daughter was marrying him, Mist's arch-nemesis, and whichever one he did, it would have consequences that the Mizukage obviously wanted to exploit. He was willing to bet that the woman would deliberately open up some free time tomorrow afternoon so he had no excuse not to go unless it was a deliberate decision.

"Come now, Lady Kurosawa," Wakahisa laughed gregariously. "Throwing bloodthirsty shinobi armies at Lord Gōketsu is one thing, but no man should be forced to face his mother-in-law unprepared."

Look, we can make obviously flippant statements about going to war with you because we're confident of our position, but it remains an option we can exercise at will, Jiraiya translated.

"Trust me," Wakahisa went on, "I'd rather wrestle the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox with my bare hands than deal with mine when she's in one of her banshee moods!"

I am accidentally offending you in a way that reminds you of your emotional and military vulnerability.

An awkward silence fell on the room.

Jiraiya could sense Mori Biwako about to change the subject, overtly to move on from Wakahisa's faux pas, but in reality to shift control of the conversation from the Mizukage into her own hands. It made him wonder whether the two were coordinating on the spot or working from a script.

Jiraiya struck first.

"That opportunity may come sooner than you think, Lord Wakahisa," he said softly.

I have intel on Akatsuki that you don't, and you don't want to be on my bad side if I get Naruto back without you.

But he didn't want to make an actual threat here. Jiraiya could tell he wasn't going to win over the Mori any time soon, not without working closely with Shikaku, but he didn't get any sense of close alliance between them and the Wakahisa, and he wanted to keep his options open.

"When that day comes," Jiraiya went on, "I would be honoured if we all dealt with it side by side, Hokage and Mizukage together as we are now."

If you pool your resources with mine and help me rescue Naruto, thereby securing my position in Leaf, I'll use it to support Kurosawa's claim to the hat in the face of Yagura wanting it back.

"If I may be so bold," the Mori kid interjected before the adults in the room could decide on their next move, "I think the Hokage has perfectly expressed one of the Fourth Mizukage's core teachings, that unity is strength and is forged from recognition of a common foe. I'm sure many in Mist would be delighted to learn that the Fifth is carrying that teaching with her into this coming new age."

Jiraiya hid his surprise. Suddenly things were getting interesting, because what the girl had just said was, The third party I represent will back the Mizukage's claim to power against all future challengers if she can prove herself by making this alliance work and taking down Akatsuki. He was damned if he knew who the third party actually was, though he had a few guesses, but the effect on the others was unmistakable.

Mori Biwako gave her a "We're going to have words about this when we get home, young lady" look, and wouldn't Jiraiya pay to be a fly on that wall. Ryūgamine gave a dry chuckle, which was what he did when he decided that the enemy hadn't brought enough men (which was to say, every damn time). Wakahisa laughed boisterously, with an ambiguous note of approval. And the Mizukage… the Mizukage had a pleasant expression that gave away nothing, because of course she did.

Jiraiya had a distinct sense that he'd just seen a piece of Mist's internal politics that an outsider wasn't meant to see. His mind was already going into overdrive. What did the kid have to gain from pulling this stunt in front of him? How had she even made it to this dinner if she wasn't on the same page as her clan head? How had Mori Biwako, a woman he was pretty sure had already worked out a counter to every one of his publicly known techniques, and at least half of the rest, been taken off guard by one of her own?

The pieces clicked into place one by one. Mori Biwako had the Mizukage's permission to bring her husband to this dinner. That had been a transparent enough show of strength. On even footing, Jiraiya reckoned he could take Ryūgamine three times out of four—but there was no such thing as even footing against a shinobi who never held back, never ran out of firepower and never left anything to chance. Jiraiya should have hated the bastard after everything he'd done, and without a doubt, that woman was watching to see if he'd let his emotions cloud his judgement when suddenly faced with an old foe. But Jiraiya had found, during the war, that by the time you were waist-deep in blood you started to care less which of a thousand enemies had spilled it, and while he might never forgive the man for what he'd done, he wasn't going to spend nights awake thinking about him either.

No, the interesting part was that it was a show of strength against the Mizukage as well. Back in the day, Mori Ryūgamine had been tipped for the hat, and to this day it was unclear (at least to Leaf) why he'd yielded it to the younger and less experienced Yagura. It wasn't the Frozen Skein. That hadn't been in Ryūgamine's Bingo Book entry, suggesting that he'd married into the clan and his logistical brilliance was entirely his own. Bringing him to an event like this was a show of support, a trial for Jiraiya to overcome while the Mizukage watched and waited for opportunities. But at the same time it was a reminder for the Mizukage to toe the party line. She was replaceable, and they didn't want her to forget it.

So the Mizukage had allowed Mori Biwako to bring him here. It was ultimately in her interests, and Jiraiya suspected it would have cost her to refuse. She wanted a controlled environment, without a large audience, but she also didn't want to be forced into siding with Jiraiya if it came to a two-on-one conflict against the Mori, so she invited Wakahisa—she had the necessary pretext, the "family gathering", and presumably she expected him to ally with her if push came to shove. Jiraiya didn't know enough to tell how justified that was, or why.

Now, assuming that enormous chain of guesses and assumptions was right, Mori Biwako had taken advantage of one family member's invitation to bring in another. The kid—no, it was worth making a note of her name now—Mori Ami was an effective counter to that woman's efforts to restore the numbers advantage, and with the former Mizukage candidate and a third faction's representative on board, the Mori clan head must have been preparing a serious blow against the Mizukage. Jiraiya imagined she'd force her to commit to something big in front of him, something which would strengthen the Mori's position and advance their own agenda in the negotiations.

All within the context of a pleasant family dinner, of course, without any of those other pesky diplomats to get in the way.

Then her darling grandsomething had swept the carpet from under her. In a context where the Mizukage was being reminded of her vulnerability before her backers (which Jiraiya assumed the Mori to be), Mori Ami was offering the woman the support she needed, on the condition that she follow Ami's foreign policy. At the same time, she was essentially holding the threat of alliance with the Hokage over everybody's head, saying that if they weren't going to steer the negotiations the way she wanted, she'd back the Hokage who would. Jiraiya almost wanted the Mizukage and Mori Biwako to turn her down just so he could see what her game plan was for supporting the sovereign leader of another state against her own. He doubted she was going to go the Keiko route.

Oh, and technically there was a message in there for him as well. If he didn't put his money where his mouth was when it came to making this alliance, then he would become the common foe, and Ami's faction would make sure Mist unified against him. Without any knowledge of what that faction was (something Ami was blatantly taking advantage of), Jiraiya had no way of evaluating the threat. Not that it mattered. She was either on board with his key diplomatic goals, or pretending well enough to serve his purposes, at least for now.

"To go back to an earlier topic," the Mizukage said calmly, "I should also make sure you have directions to the graveyard where Lady Gōketsu's uncle is buried. I understand he was a father figure to her, and you may wish to pay your respects."

Was he now?

Jiraiya knew he shouldn't speculate. You didn't make random guesses about something like this. But he'd been with more women than even Mori Biwako would be able to count, and if you were the kind of man who cared about what was happening behind the breasts, there were some patterns you eventually learned to notice.

But it wouldn't be fair to the departed to assume something like this. It could have been a teacher. It could have been a teammate. It could have been a trusted friend. Hell, Jiraiya could be completely wrong about the whole thing. It wasn't like Mari herself had ever said anything. (Not that he'd expect her to, after their bare handful of months together.)

"I understand he disappeared nine, ten years ago," the Mizukage went on. "Presumed dead, but no body was ever found. It isn't ordinary procedure, but I believe there is some talk now of reopening the case, as a courtesy to Lady Gōketsu."

Damn. Fuck. Damn.

…Fuck.

Nine, ten years ago. When Mari would have still been a kid, but finally coming into her own as a ninja. Infiltration. Seduction. Assassination.

Fuck.

Jiraiya used all of the power of the world's greatest spymaster to assume an expression of mild surprise. "She never told me," he said, his mind racing to find the most plausible and least damaging response to the offer of reinvestigation. "But I can't help thinking that digging up the ghosts of the past might hurt her more than it helps."

The Mizukage gave an enchanting smile. "Of course. Well, if you would prefer for the mystery to remain unsolved, all we can do is acquiesce to your request."

"If you ever change your mind," Mori Ami spoke up, "please feel free to get in touch with me instead. I have some ANBU contacts who would be happy to carry out an investigation like this in their spare time, without having to tie up the Mizukage's valuable resources on a cold case."

Ally with me and I'll remove the sword the Mizukage has hung over your head. If you'd rather not, I can play blackmail with the best of them.

Jiraiya glanced down at his plate with well-concealed despondency. They were still only on the second course.
 
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