Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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At that point we ask Shikamaru if the Nara have any Null-Chakra-Field seals to end ongoing chakra effects with.
TaliesinSkye
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Can something that uses chakra somehow nullify it? I'm not sure it could exist.
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They should have a very simple seal that works to end most ongoing chakra effects, and whose effectiveness only rises with more of said seal.
Dunno why you're asking for it, though; we have those seals too.
TaliesinSkye
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We do? What are they? I don't see them in the wiki.
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So, like...what, prep to leave Leaf, or what?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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You don't? We've got like three different variations on explosive seals.
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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I ... guess? I'm honestly not sure what we would do there. Hmm.
Ah, we should probably prepare to debrief the other clan heirs/heads once back in Leaf maybe?
We'll probably do the debriefing in the Hokage tower.
TaliesinSkye
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Oh. Very funny.
If Jiraiya and Kakashi and the others are mind controlled I think we'd prefer to avoid turning them into hamburger though. Also I suspect they have ways of dealing with explosives.
As for contingencies if the attack force doesn't come back...we'd best make Leaf ready for war. And the rest of the Elemental Nations, for that matter.
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*EXTERNAL WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE'ING*
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- Why would this be required?
I mean it really depends. Even if Jiraiya dies turning missing nin should be plan Z. We're still an established clan, albeit a weak one, with two summoners(including Jiraiya's heir), two sealsmiths who have made great advances to warfare, are allied with Ino-Shika-Cho meaning we have 3 major clans with us, and I think a relatively positive reputation from the little we've seen. Plus we should consider just how bad the consequences would be if the foreign turncoats, who are likely privy to a lot of classified info, ran off from a second village. At least the first time everyone thought team Uplift was dead and they were relatively unimportant anyway. That would not be the case this time. Uplift as philosophy would likely be done too, since I doubt we'd ever get the chance to do what we're capable of in Konoha if we destroyed the little we've built up by running off a second time.
That isn't to say we shouldn't plan some back-up gtfo emergency plan, just that it should be the very last option.
I would say the prerequisites to even considering leaving are
-Jiraiya dies
-Naruto dies or is uninterested in joining
-Tsunade dies
-Hiashi survives
If we hit all these then leaving may be an idea seriously worth considering, but should at least one not be met we can still salvage this. That said I'm not entirely against some things like leaving an open channel to talk to Orochimaru in case things go south, though I can't say I agree with turning to an S-rank missing nin who we nothing about and has no incentive to help us (and may even be incentivised to blackmail or sell us out if he wants to earn favor with Konoha), but talk of assassinating Hiashi is going way too far in the extreme.
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Shikaku is here right? He's Jounin Commander, so should we check with him on what's classified and what isn't?
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- Yes.
Shikaku may or may not be going along with the strike force.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
I'd simplify my rating of 'when to get out of dodge' to:
- Goketsu has no S-rank backing.
- Hiashi takes the hat.
Put both of those together and the Goketsu are done as a clan one way or the other, and the only thing we can do is have Team Uplift survive the death of the Goketsu.
There's also the 'Akatsuki wins' situation which is also 'get out of dodge', preferably by means of leaving the entire continent and never looking back.
- Goketsu has no S-rank backing.
- Hiashi takes the hat.
Put both of those together and the Goketsu are done as a clan one way or the other, and the only thing we can do is have Team Uplift survive the death of the Goketsu.
There's also the 'Akatsuki wins' situation which is also 'get out of dodge', preferably by means of leaving the entire continent and never looking back.
Jello_Raptor
(Confirmed Jelly)
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*sigh*
I am too hype for the next few updates. It's legitimately problematic.
@eaglejarl: Can you promise that you won't drop cryptic hints till the next update? I need to be able to work, and if you don't I'll keep obsessively checking the thread.
I am too hype for the next few updates. It's legitimately problematic.
@eaglejarl: Can you promise that you won't drop cryptic hints till the next update? I need to be able to work, and if you don't I'll keep obsessively checking the thread.
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Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
We should build a massive sealtech airship and load up the entire village worth of folks unto it before flying off over the horizon.
Go past Bear. Don't stop until we hit another ocean.
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- Why would this be required?
Eh why not, best case scenario the elemental nations really are isolated ninja Japan and we end up finding ninja Hawaii. Ninja Hawaii sounds like a swell place to live in.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
AKATSUKI: Balse!
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Y-yeah that's a good list too. I mean I like to think my extra bit of detail gives my list heart but if you like your lists sleek and to the point thrn yours works too.
I feel your pain, I really want to know what went down on that island
TaliesinSkye
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I just had a ridiculous skywalker idea. Skywagons.
You carve a succession of skywalker seals into the ground-contacting surface of the wheels of a vehicle. Make them out of whatever material is convenient. We know stone can work, and we know multiple seals can be on the same object as long as they don't overlap. Ideally they would be all subcomponents of one larger seal so that you could easily turn it on and off and re-infuse it all at once, but it's not strictly necessary.
You'd have a vehicle that could roll on empty air, with seals that needed reinfusing every (seal duration x number of seals per wheel). Add a method of propulsion and you could travel fast anywhere. Sailing would work quite well, since you've effectively got nearly frictionless motion and perfect lateral stability provided by the immobility of the air domes. Speeds could theoretically far exceed sailing vessels because you don't need to push water out of the way.
If the skywalkers have a very narrow angular tolerance for how much wiggle room they grant, you could replace the four wheels with two rollers that have the seals carved such that two of them are always pointing exactly at the ground. The arrangement would look a bit like Fred Flintstone's car.
As an alternative to the permanently engraved wheels, you could stick modified paper skywalker seals to a regular wheel.
Changing altitude is slightly tricky. You need to deactivate the seals on one wheel, use a mechanism to raise or lower it slightly, and then reactivate it. The procedure is repeated on the other wheel across from it. Once done you can go up at a steady slight incline, go down at a steady slight incline, or stay level.
As a fast shortcut to gain altitude you can have a ninja climb way up with skywalkers (or ascend some other way) and unseal something the mass of the vehicle. Then a ninja in the vehicle substitutes it, and the mass is resealed.
If the vehicle is too massive to conceivably store in any storage scroll, you could set up a crane with a counterweight to lift it up with a skywalker to suspend the pulley in the sky. Getting the counterweight up into the sky in the first place could of course be done by bringing the weights up in multiple storage scrolls. Fill a big bucket with rocks or lead bricks or whatever.
The fun thing is that once you're up way high you can set the vehicle to travel down at a slight incline and it will go a long long way fast without needing to worry about any other propulsion. (Put a brake on the axle to slow down at the end of the trip. Also a rack and pinion for steering.) Something like this could work as an actual rapid transit network, delivering a constant flow of messages, people, and goods sealed into storage scrolls.
You carve a succession of skywalker seals into the ground-contacting surface of the wheels of a vehicle. Make them out of whatever material is convenient. We know stone can work, and we know multiple seals can be on the same object as long as they don't overlap. Ideally they would be all subcomponents of one larger seal so that you could easily turn it on and off and re-infuse it all at once, but it's not strictly necessary.
You'd have a vehicle that could roll on empty air, with seals that needed reinfusing every (seal duration x number of seals per wheel). Add a method of propulsion and you could travel fast anywhere. Sailing would work quite well, since you've effectively got nearly frictionless motion and perfect lateral stability provided by the immobility of the air domes. Speeds could theoretically far exceed sailing vessels because you don't need to push water out of the way.
If the skywalkers have a very narrow angular tolerance for how much wiggle room they grant, you could replace the four wheels with two rollers that have the seals carved such that two of them are always pointing exactly at the ground. The arrangement would look a bit like Fred Flintstone's car.
As an alternative to the permanently engraved wheels, you could stick modified paper skywalker seals to a regular wheel.
Changing altitude is slightly tricky. You need to deactivate the seals on one wheel, use a mechanism to raise or lower it slightly, and then reactivate it. The procedure is repeated on the other wheel across from it. Once done you can go up at a steady slight incline, go down at a steady slight incline, or stay level.
As a fast shortcut to gain altitude you can have a ninja climb way up with skywalkers (or ascend some other way) and unseal something the mass of the vehicle. Then a ninja in the vehicle substitutes it, and the mass is resealed.
If the vehicle is too massive to conceivably store in any storage scroll, you could set up a crane with a counterweight to lift it up with a skywalker to suspend the pulley in the sky. Getting the counterweight up into the sky in the first place could of course be done by bringing the weights up in multiple storage scrolls. Fill a big bucket with rocks or lead bricks or whatever.
The fun thing is that once you're up way high you can set the vehicle to travel down at a slight incline and it will go a long long way fast without needing to worry about any other propulsion. (Put a brake on the axle to slow down at the end of the trip. Also a rack and pinion for steering.) Something like this could work as an actual rapid transit network, delivering a constant flow of messages, people, and goods sealed into storage scrolls.
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