Enma gave you a brief overview of his understanding of how people would feel of Hazou personally:
  • Hostile:
    • Condors -- Obvious reasons.
    • Rat -- Fairly dedicated pacifists and friends of the Condors.
    • Pangolins -- Cutting off skytower trade just before they crushed Hyena.
    • Leopard -- Stopping the crushing of Hyena, preventing the Leopards from getting rich on colonial spoils.
  • Neutral:
    • Mara -- Allied with Pangolins, will probably oppose you if the Pangolins ask but they're generally not eager to make enemies.
    • Otter -- Didn't engage much except to make sure there were no alliances formed against them.
    • Capybara -- Didn't engage much except to make sure there were no alliances formed against them.
    • Toad -- Staunchly neutral, Enma thinks they're still making up their mind about whether you or Noburi is the "real" inheritor of Jiraiya's legacy.
    • Snake -- (ambassador left the Conclave after the conclusion of the Human Path war)
  • Allied:
    • Turtle -- Benefited a lot from the trade network.
    • Porcupine -- Benefited a lot from the trade network.
    • Monkey -- Enma is in your corner.


The above.

Kei and Noburi can identify the summons that they see frequently in the course of their trade network business shuttling pallets of stuff back and forth. Many of these summons are traders and merchant-types that simply tell Kei/Noburi what they need to retrieve from who, and what they're offering in exchange.

Enma's proposal was that Hazou go befriend and convince the trade representatives of the various clans of the importance of the Dragons -- while these merchants may not have executive power, they definitely have more influence with their clans at large than Hazou does personally. When the real ambassadors come, they'll be more inclined to believe Enma's pitch if all their people at the Conclave are telling them that the Dragon problem is real and demands action. Enma will be busy with traveling, so he wants Hazou to do the groundwork to build up the sentiment that'll make their pitch really hit.

Is there anything more detailed that you would like, that you expect Kei and Noburi would know?



Mari has been impressed with Hazou's recent progress in one-on-one socials -- she thinks he has a realistic shot at doing the groundwork that Enma asks for. Still, she doesn't think that he should go in right away. If he sells everyone on the existential risk of the Dragons, then they have to wait weeks before they can petition their bosses about it, there's a risk of losing the emotional rawness of the panic or having people freak out or turn into a "death cult" (her words). To Mari, ideally Hazou starts making his big pitch to people around two weeks before their bosses arrive. She wants to give them enough time to freak out and internalize the panic after Hazou addresses all their obvious objections, yet not long enough that they've lost the intensity of the feeling, nor long enough that they might start coming up with solutions that they try to pitch by their bosses. Mari wants Hazou to be the sole vendor of solutions to the Dragon crisis in the eyes of the summon clans. Probably, that means a week or so of general carousing before making the serious Dragon pitch.

Mari thinks Hazou would be better off arriving with Noburi and Kei -- though she notes that allying himself with the Pangolins could have costs (if the Pangolins even accept him!) and that the Toads might not appreciate Noburi declaring the Toads for Hazou like that. She thinks it may be wise to ally with the other Leaf summoners for a united front -- if the other Leaf summoners could be brought together like that! In general, the more Hazou looks like he has allies and connections, the better. It makes him look less like a froth-mouthed madman predicting apocalypses that never manifest.

Asuma has little to add to the specifics of how to run a social operation -- he defers to Mari as the expert. However, he adds the following:
  • Hazou should absolutely be asking other Leaf summoners about who in their trade delegations are the most influential, and picking his targets appropriately (Don't always hit the leaders! Bring down an organization at all levels, says Mari)
  • The Rats could be a lynchpin -- they're broadly agreed to be reasonable and respected. If Hazou can sway them, many will pay a lot of attention to that.
  • The Mara have a lot of soft-power, but their summoner is an enemy. Clear any plans to interact with them through Asuma first (not that F has been spotted at the Conclave).
  • The Porcupines are fairly small-minded and focused on the little things in life. It'll be hard to sell them on a big picture threat.
  • The Otters and Capybara are largely here for fear of being cut out of potential (esp. military) alliances. Hazou could try to play on that fear, but he'll need to be delicate to avoid alienating them.
  • Save the Turtles for last. Having the Turtles evangelizing for Hazou will probably hurt his cause.
Oops. My bad, mixed up Rats and Otters. Fixed now.

So you said to switch the Rats and Otters descriptions, is this the newly accurate info, or is it only the bottom two or something? I'm not sure the Rats were very pacifist when they were previously described...
I do believe this is the first and last time they were mentioned outside of some offhand comments from the Pangolins...
The Rat Scroll was last held by a ninja of the Crimson Sunrise clan. No one has heard from him in a hundred years and the Scroll is presumed lost. The Rats did not recognize any of the names (Wind Country, Rock, Cloud, Land of Fire, etc) that Noburi and Kei tried on them, so presumably the summoner was from somewhere well off the beaten track. Also, notice that they haven't checked in since before the Village System came into existence.

I did mean that yes, correct some reason I thought the Conclave was in Toad.

No Slug?
No Slug.

Are any Hyenas present? Think I remember they aren't but thought I'd ask
No Hyena.

So my immediate concern with this plan is that while it's fine it does seem like the sort of thing paper will give low base rate for, since it's mostly prepping to do things rather than doing things. (I could be mistaken, @Paperclipped feel free to share your opinion.) May be worth adding something actionable at the end of all the prep. Or if we're fine with accepting bad base rate for the moment to get a better framework for our approach then perhaps we can just do it anyways.
It's fine for your plan to be sensible prep for a challenging situation. It won't get high base rate, but unless there's something actively bad in it, the plan also won't get a low base rate. Don't worry, I'll find something to write.
 
Optimize with Mari/Kei/Noburi/Ami
Request: No Ami.
Notify nearest Pangolin patrol of your presence.
  • Hazou is here as requested by Enma, recuperating from the journey before attending the Conclave. Leverage pangolin summoner connection if necessary.
Suggestion: Have appropriate tribute ready. We don't expect it to be needed, but it never hurts to be ready in front of the head of a genocidal fascist empire.
 
Why not? I'm not strongly inclined to keep her there but I am curious why you don't want her advice

Suggestion: Have appropriate tribute ready. We don't expect it to be needed, but it never hurts to be ready in front of the head of a genocidal fascist empire.
Hmm, any specific suggestions?

(Minor updates to the plan btw, added a line about practicing storytelling with Canaria)
 
@Paperclipped @eaglejarl @Velorien
SC XP
Kei: 9*1.7 = 15.3 XP
Kei was occupied with Operation Murdersnout, and wasn't on the Human Path for long enough to SC train.



I'm not sure if memories transfer properly if Prime leaves the Path that the Clone is on. @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped want to weigh in? If Hazou has an active SC when he Reverse Summons does he still get the memories when it pops? Is it the same if he's on the Seventh Path and returning to the Human Path?
A quick test confirms that Hazou still receives the memories. Unfortunately, summoning requires mental focus to not get stretched out and lost in the space between Paths, and even a 1 hour SC pop disoriented Hazou substantially. He would not want to get hit by dozens of hours of SC memories while summoning.
 
A quick test confirms that Hazou still receives the memories. Unfortunately, summoning requires mental focus to not get stretched out and lost in the space between Paths, and even a 1 hour SC pop disoriented Hazou substantially. He would not want to get hit by dozens of hours of SC memories while summoning.
I wonder if there's a way to stagger the timing of the Shadow Clones' duration so that it doesn't happen? Or maybe it would be simpler to reduce the training blocks? Maybe just one or two per day, with only one or two clones?
 
I wonder if there's a way to stagger the timing of the Shadow Clones' duration so that it doesn't happen? Or maybe it would be simpler to reduce the training blocks? Maybe just one or two per day, with only one or two clones?
Trivially, Hazou can mentally pop his clones with a free action before he reverse summons.
PLAYERS - Known Jutsu said:
A clone can always choose to dispel itself as a free action, and you can choose to dispel a clone at any time as a free action.
 
[X] A little less conversation, a little more action
Word Count: 292
  • Optimize with Mari/Kei/Noburi
  • Arrival in Pangolin
    • Find defensible campsite well inside Pangolin. Notify Kei/Noburi of location for meetup later.
      • Set up perimeter defenses, ARS triggers Dogs can use, use jutsu to burrow defenses, work out guard shifts with Dogs.
    • Notify nearest Pangolin patrol of your presence, ensure Dog camp isn't harassed.
      • Hazou's here as Enma requested, recuperating from travel before attending the Conclave.
      • Leverage pangolin summoner connection if necessary.
    • Spend daytime in Leaf SC training/researching. Spend evenings in 7th Path.
      • Research:
        • If Hazou thinks he can succeed without SSA, Multithread SCs for Goo Bombs, faster Macerators, Rocket Boots (with Kagome's permission.)
        • When those complete, prep a single day for Dragon's Roar to gauge difficulty.
  • Conclave prep
    • Complete research.
    • Get crash course from Leaf summoners on body language/culture of their respective Summon clans, sanity check diplomatic approaches with them
    • Meet with Neji, Aika, Ruri, and Asuma individually and request their presence for Hazou's arrival to show united front.
      • Could Ruri persuade Neji if Hazou fails to?
    • Practice story-spinning with Canaria to dramatically recount Dragon stories when needed.
  • Conclave Arrival
    • Arrive as a trio with Kei and Noburi. Play into Jiraiya's/Sannin legacy where possible as Enma recommended.
    • Present self to Pangolins first, thank them for graciously hosting alliance against the Dragon threat.
      • Bring Driver Ants as tribute.
    • Present self to Condors second. Mention conversation between Kumokogo and the stranded Condors, and how Kumokogo was awed by Conjura's legend, hoping to work with her in particular against the threat.
      • Provide tribute (ask Ruri for advice)
    • Make further introductions in order recommended by advisors.
      • Provide tributes suggested by advisors
    • Don't escalate conflicts, but be ready to throw down and nonlethally neutralize aggressors.
    • Make more comfortable arrangements for Horizon Chasers.
Big changes:
- Removed Ami from the sanity check, I think it would be fine and probably pretty helpful but we can always ask her later (like on a Velorien update...)
- Paper said it would require an absurd amount of chakra to summon all of the horizon chasers, keep them out all day, and have shadow clones running around. I currently have it that we arrange for their safety from pangolins and give them a fortified camp, so we can do research in Leaf. I personally think the research is very important, especially Goo Bombs, since there will be a lot of necessary incapacitation at the Conclave, but if you would like a more watchful eye on the Dogs you may want to fork the plan.
- I removed having Asuma force the Summoners to show up if necessary as Paper indicated our specific approach will affect their behavior. If they're forced to show up they may be there but not be as helpful as if Hazou simply persuaded them to come.
- I added practicing some story-spinning with Canaria before we arrive though I don't think that's supposed to come up until the Conclave returns to full swing.
- Added bringing tributes to the present representatives.
- I will be linking the specs of the new Macerators and Dragon's Roar after this post, you may want to comment more specifically on what those are supposed to do.
 
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Macerator 3.0, faster macerator
Effect: The speed has been increased such that the +3 bonus of the macerator applies to adjacent zones, and +6 in user's zone.

Dragon's Roar
Effect: A same-zone AOE TN40 attack that targets Resolve, mimicking the effect that the roar of a Dragon has on Hazou.

Banshee Lover
Effect: The opposite of a Banshee Slayer, this seal boosts sound near the user's ears and therefore increases Alertness by user's Alertness AB. Doesn't boost sound enough for yelling etc to be harmful to wearer. When included in a MARS chain, will become deactivated in the same sequence that Slayers are activated.
 
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I know you already include it at the start, but would you be willing to add a line that specifically invoke's Mari's help here, too? Just to be explicit about leveraging Mari's social prowess towards optimizing our Conclave prep.

We might also want to bring 7th Path food and delicacies from the 7th Path Trading Network as a show of our unity/influence/connection with Leaf's other Summoning Clans. And Bear's right by Dog. Might be able to score some of their honey mead, too.
 
Find a defensible campsite well inside Pangolin. Notify Kei and Noburi of location for meetup later.
Suggestion: "Notify Kei and Noburi of location for later meetup."

This removes the ambiguity of us from making a later notification to meet, as opposed to making the notification to later meet.
Notify nearest Pangolin patrol of your presence, ensure Horizon Chaser camp isn't harassed.
  • Hazou's here as Enma requested, recuperating from travel before attending the Conclave.
  • Leverage pangolin summoner connection if necessary.
I would recommend this section be done before setting up camp; we want the Pangolins to be aware at all times since we have to be living in their terrority and avoid insults/violence/troublesomeness.
Spend daytime in Leaf Shadow Clone training/researching. Sleep in 7th Path in evenings.
Clarification: Are we assuming we'll be safe in Pangolin territory, and won't be harassed/attacked by Condor rebels/disgruntled Pangolin assassins?
Could Ruri persuade Neji if Hazou fails to?
RURI: *stares at pissant clan fuckwad*

NEJI: *stares at upjumped mudfoot*

HAZOU: This is fine.
Present self to Condors second. Mention conversation between Kumokogo and the stranded Condors, and how Kumokogo was awed by Conjura's legend, hoping to work with her in particular against the threat.
"In better news, the Toads sent Fukasaku and Shima, the two Toad Sages, so at least they're taking it seriously. Unfortunately, Enma says that they're more interested in negotiating for pipeweed and booze than forming the Crusade. And Condone is still too afraid to speak up because she thinks that if she says anything wrong then Pantsā might murder her and swap in another administrator for Condor Territory."
 
I know you already include it at the start, but would you be willing to add a line that specifically invoke's Mari's help here, too? Just to be explicit about leveraging Mari's social prowess towards optimizing our Conclave prep.
word count is pretty tight atm and I don't really think it's necessary since as you said it's already mentioned at the top

We might also want to bring 7th Path food and delicacies from the 7th Path Trading Network as a show of our unity/influence/connection with Leaf's other Summoning Clans. And Bear's right by Dog. Might be able to score some of their honey mead, too.
Most of them are already doing that trading with each other, the Bear thing is a good point though. I'm not sure where I'd slot that in.

Suggestion: "Notify Kei and Noburi of location for later meetup."
Yeah that makes sense, I'll change that

I would recommend this section be done before setting up camp; we want the Pangolins to be aware at all times since we have to be living in their terrority and avoid insults/violence/troublesomeness.
Good point

RURI: *stares at pissant clan fuckwad*

NEJI: *stares at upjumped mudfoot*

HAZOU: This is fine.
Lmao

More seriously: Ruri is a jonin and Hazou initially thought she was a social spec due to her skill. I think she can get through to Neji if she thinks it's important, though hopefully Hazou could get through to him without her help.

Pretty much no matter what we do is threatening to piss someone off, that's the whole thing Enma warned us about. I agree with Cari that greeting the Pangs first and then the Condors is the best path, not necessarily a perfect one. They literally have a blood feud and both hate Hazou so all we can do is our best :V
 
More seriously: Ruri is a jonin and Hazou initially thought she was a social spec due to her skill. I think she can get through to Neji if she thinks it's important, though hopefully Hazou could get through to him without her help.
Oh I understand, I simply find it amusing that we went to someone Neji is primed to hate.

...and I now realize that everyone we could have gone to, sans Asuma or Tsunade, would have had the same effect.

Hm.
Pretty much no matter what we do is threatening to piss someone off, that's the whole thing Enma warned us about. I agree with Cari that greeting the Pangs first and then the Condors is the best path, not necessarily a perfect one. They literally have a blood feud and both hate Hazou so all we can do is our best :V
True, I wanted to make sure you were aware that greeting Condone with this isn't going to have the effect of "praise Conjura/the actual Condor clan" so much as it is "praise the puppet-Condor, then start in on Conjura being awesome". Methinks Condone may not be long for this world, at the least.

Also, does Pantsa know about the stranded/rebel Condors? Do we want to be giving up that tactical information to the Pangolins?
 
Also, does Pantsa know about the stranded/rebel Condors? Do we want to be giving up that tactical information to the Pangolins?
Hmm that's a good point, we could just say that kumo mentioned it to Hazou, which is technically true


"praise the puppet-Condor, then start in on Conjura being awesome". Methinks Condone may not be long for this world, at the least.
Well if there are any other Condors present, which I think there will be, perhaps it will appeal to them at least. As well as any condor sympathizer clans
 
Hmm that's a good point, we could just say that kumo mentioned it to Hazou, which is technically true
PANTSA: Hmm, that is interesting. How could Kumokogo, who is on the other side of the continent, have learned about the Condors?

PANTSA: *looks at information about the Dragonwar*

PANTSA: Hmm, it seems the Archaeopteryx Clan, which could fly, was right at the forefront of the war and within spitting distance of the Arachnids.

PANTSA: Hmm.

PANTSA: I should do something nice for the Summoner. Perhaps a feather boa?


..but in all seriousness, I would argue against leaking such information.
Well if there are any other Condors present, which I think there will be, perhaps it will appeal to them at least. As well as any condor sympathizer clans
We're in Pangolin territory, why would non-Pantsa approved Condors be present?
 
Macerator 3.0, faster macerator
Effect: The speed has been increased such that the +3 bonus of the macerator applies to adjacent zones as well. This increased velocity also improves the bonus for attacks within the user's zone
I think we can do better here. +3/+6/+9 with range 2/1/0 seems worthy of Hazou's current Sealing.

Dragon's Roar
Effect: A same-zone AOE TN attack that targets Resolve, mimicking the effect that the roar of a Dragon has on Hazou
No TN targeted for this one? I suggest 40 if you don't have objections.

Set up perimeter defenses, ARS triggers Dogs can use, use jutsu to burrow defenses, work out guard shifts with Dogs
I suggest adding skyslicers if you don't object.
Conclave Arrival
  • Arrive as a trio with Kei and Noburi. Play into Jiraiya's/Sannin legacy where possible as Enma recommended.
I think we should aim for 2 weeks before Enma's estimated arrival. As Mari suggested.
To Mari, ideally Hazou starts making his big pitch to people around two weeks before their bosses arrive.
If you don't implement any of my other suggestions, please do this one. I think it's very important.

[X] A little less conversation, a little more action
 
We're in Pangolin territory, why would non-Pantsa approved Condors be present?
Well sure there won't be any straight up rebels but imo there will still be sympathizers


I think we can do better here. +3/+6/+9 with range 2/1/0 seems worthy of Hazou's current Sealing.
Hmm 2 zones is pretty far to aim accurately but the bonus probably could be larger


No TN targeted for this one? I suggest 40 if you don't have objections.
Fine with me


I suggest adding skyslicers if you don't object.
Fine with me


I think we should aim for 2 weeks before Enma's estimated arrival. As Mari suggested.
She said start making our "big pitch" 2 weeks out. I think we need to start befriending people before that

If we need to, we can have more time.
I don't think we need it.
 
If you don't implement any of my other suggestions, please do this one. I think it's very important.
Looks like she also said "Probably, that means a week or so of general carousing before making the serious Dragon pitch." So ig we need to be there 3 weeks before Enma

...Except we have no idea when he's showing up
 
Looks like she also said "Probably, that means a week or so of general carousing before making the serious Dragon pitch." So ig we need to be there 3 weeks before Enma

...Except we have no idea when he's showing up
He's going to show up in Arachnid and we can check in with him then. It'll take him at least a month to get back from there I think. Plus we can ask him to wait a couple days if we need to.
 
[X] A little less conversation, a little more action
Word Count: 288

  • Optimize with Mari/Kei/Noburi
  • Arrival in Pangolin
    • Find defensible campsite well inside Pangolin. Notify Kei/Noburi of location for later meetup.
      • Notify nearest Pangolin patrol of your presence, ensure Dog camp isn't harassed.
        • Hazou's here as Enma requested, recuperating from travel before attending the Conclave.
        • Leverage pangolin summoner connection if necessary.
      • Set up perimeter defenses, skyslicers, ARS triggers for Dogs, use jutsu to burrow defenses, work out guard shifts.
    • Spend daytime in Leaf SC training/researching. Spend evenings in 7th Path.
  • Conclave prep
    • Complete research.
    • Ask Leaf summoners about their respective Summons' body language/culture, discuss diplomatic approaches
    • Meet with Neji, Aika, Ruri, Asuma individually, request their presence for Hazou's arrival, portray united front.
      • Ruri persuades Neji if Hazou fails?
    • Practice storytelling with Canaria to recount Dragon stories.
    • Ask Kagome/Arachnids to search Archaeopteryx for Dragon parts to show Conclave, bring Enma if possible.
  • Conclave Arrival
    • Arrive a week after Enma leaves Arachnid.
    • Arrive as trio with Kei and Noburi. Evoke Jiraiya's/Sannin legacy where possible as Enma recommended.
    • Present to Pangolins first, thank them for graciously hosting alliance against the Dragon threat.
      • Bring Driver Ants as tribute.
    • Present self to Condors second. Mention how Kumokogo was awed by Conjura's legend, hoping to work with her in particular against the threat.
      • Provide tribute (ask Ruri for advice)
    • Make further introductions in order recommended by advisors.
      • Provide tributes suggested by advisors
    • Don't escalate conflicts, but be ready to throw down and nonlethally neutralize aggressors.
    • Make more comfortable arrangements for Horizon Chasers.
Big change - having Kagome and Arachnid escorts look for some Dragon bits that have washed up on the beach or are scattered around. If you are not comfortable with this let me know, if enough of you don't want it I'll remove it/change it. I think it could make a huge difference when we make our sales pitch on the threat though so I've added it for now.

I also added a couple more seals to research since we've got a decent chunk of time.
 
Big change - having Kagome and Arachnid escorts look for some Dragon bits that have washed up on the beach or are scattered around. If you are not comfortable with this let me know, if enough of you don't want it I'll remove it/change it. I think it could make a huge difference when we make our sales pitch on the threat though so I've added it for now.

I also added a couple more seals to research since we've got a decent chunk of time.
No objections, I like the changes.

If we have the word count, can we suggest that some Arachnids accompany Enma on his way back?

They'd have trouble running with him, but I think the Mites should be capable of doing a ridealong. Might be beneath his dignity tho
 
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