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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Does Leaf have a memorial day? If not... hm.

We should talk to Ami about making a Joint Elemental Nations Memorial Day, because we can't do something nice without making a devious plan of it.
 
Blast from the past:

_The_Bomb said:
I just noticed something

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Thing that bothers me about that scene: That idol looks to be a bit more than 1 liter meaning it should weigh around 50 pounds or 23 kg. Look at that teeny tiny sandbag; does it look like it weighs 50 pounds? No! How could Indy even think that it would be sufficient to replace the idol?

Okay, he switches it out. The pedestal sinks *down* despite having less mass atop it. Whaaaat?!

A minute or so later he casually tosses the idol across the pit to the traitor guy as though it weighed no more than a football. (Which do you mean -- American or European?) How strong is Indy to do that? How strong is the traitor to catch it as casually as he did?!

Honestly. Why can't I have some decent realism in my movie about face-melting artifacts?
 
eaglejarl said:
Blast from the past:


Thing that bothers me about that scene: That idol looks to be a bit more than 1 liter meaning it should weigh around 50 pounds or 23 kg. Look at that teeny tiny sandbag; does it look like it weighs 50 pounds? No! How could Indy even think that it would be sufficient to replace the idol?

Okay, he switches it out. The pedestal sinks *down* despite having less mass atop it. Whaaaat?!

A minute or so later he casually tosses the idol across the pit to the traitor guy as though it weighed no more than a football. (Which do you mean -- American or European?) How strong is Indy to do that? How strong is the traitor to catch it as casually as he did?!

Honestly. Why can't I have some decent realism in my movie about face-melting artifacts?
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Y'know if we get Jiraiya back we can change the meme.
 
eaglejarl said:
Blast from the past:


Thing that bothers me about that scene: That idol looks to be a bit more than 1 liter meaning it should weigh around 50 pounds or 23 kg. Look at that teeny tiny sandbag; does it look like it weighs 50 pounds? No! How could Indy even think that it would be sufficient to replace the idol?

Okay, he switches it out. The pedestal sinks *down* despite having less mass atop it. Whaaaat?!

A minute or so later he casually tosses the idol across the pit to the traitor guy as though it weighed no more than a football. (Which do you mean -- American or European?) How strong is Indy to do that? How strong is the traitor to catch it as casually as he did?!

Honestly. Why can't I have some decent realism in my movie about face-melting artifacts?
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Do you want to get pedantic levels of physics criticism on your fictional works? Because that's how you get pedantic levels of physics criticism on your fictional works.
 
eaglejarl said:
Blast from the past:


Thing that bothers me about that scene: That idol looks to be a bit more than 1 liter meaning it should weigh around 50 pounds or 23 kg. Look at that teeny tiny sandbag; does it look like it weighs 50 pounds? No! How could Indy even think that it would be sufficient to replace the idol?

Okay, he switches it out. The pedestal sinks *down* despite having less mass atop it. Whaaaat?!

A minute or so later he casually tosses the idol across the pit to the traitor guy as though it weighed no more than a football. (Which do you mean -- American or European?) How strong is Indy to do that? How strong is the traitor to catch it as casually as he did?!

Honestly. Why can't I have some decent realism in my movie about face-melting artifacts?
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Perhaps the idol is wood with a hammered gold veneer? One of the nice things about gold is how thinly it can be molded, after all. Besides, if it were pure gold, Belloc would intend to melt it down, but he's planning on selling it to a private collector.
 
ChairAgainstWall said:
Perhaps the idol is wood with a hammered gold veneer? One of the nice things about gold is how thinly it can be molded, after all. Besides, if it were pure gold, Belloc would intend to melt it down, but he's planning on selling it to a private collector.
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Bah. *waves hand dismissively*

Stop coming up with perfectly reasonable explanations for things. They ruin my perfectly nice snit.
 
Sir Stompy said:
I see another problem though, Shadow Clones are very fragile and huge chunks of rock are not aerodynamically stable. It's likely that the tumble during the fall would pop the SC or cause it to pass out from the g-forces.
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Armor the Shadow Clones with cushions and form the first MEW as a wedge for stability. And if the boom is big enough and the target is a city then the damage will be done even on a relative miss.
eaglejarl said:
Blast from the past:


Thing that bothers me about that scene: That idol looks to be a bit more than 1 liter meaning it should weigh around 50 pounds or 23 kg. Look at that teeny tiny sandbag; does it look like it weighs 50 pounds? No! How could Indy even think that it would be sufficient to replace the idol?

Okay, he switches it out. The pedestal sinks *down* despite having less mass atop it. Whaaaat?!

A minute or so later he casually tosses the idol across the pit to the traitor guy as though it weighed no more than a football. (Which do you mean -- American or European?) How strong is Indy to do that? How strong is the traitor to catch it as casually as he did?!

Honestly. Why can't I have some decent realism in my movie about face-melting artifacts?
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The artefact is gilded, not solid gold. It's value doesn't come from the material.

That's not a sandbag. It is specifically filled to weigh more. Lead barbels maybe.

The pedestal goes imperceptibly up, thus triggering the mechanism that pulls it down.

I haven't seen the movie and am talking out of my ass. My ass is still objectively correct. I know, because my ass says so.

Circular logic is best logic because circles are elegant and smooth.
 
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Rafin said:
Armor the Shadow Clones with cushions and form the first MEW as a wedge for stability. And if the boom is big enough and the target is a city then the damage will be done even on a relative miss.
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MEW only makes rectangular prisms. So this is impossible. Also WTF are pillows supposed to do against 15gs? It's also not that big, 100kg of TNT is kinda lame
 
oh my lord I don't actually keep up with all the intricacies of the mechanics of this quest but 1900 XP seems like an absolute feast and the craziest thing is that anybody on our side can tap into that if we want to train them up to a very respectable level.
 
Threnodist said:
oh my lord I don't actually keep up with all the intricacies of the mechanics of this quest but 1900 XP seems like an absolute feast and the craziest thing is that anybody on our side can tap into that if we want to train them up to a very respectable level.
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Speaking of which, we should probably release copies of the Oro sealing notes to at least the sealmasters working on the Great Seal. It wouldn't hurt to give them a slightly bigger boost than they'll already have gotten.

Combined with Jiraiya's notes, while Leaf doesn't have a lot of sealmasters, it's about to have almost all of them be incredibly skilled compared to your average sealmaster.
 
Sentient Tree said:
Speaking of which, we should probably release copies of the Oro sealing notes to at least the sealmasters working on the Great Seal. It wouldn't hurt to give them a slightly bigger boost than they'll already have gotten.

Combined with Jiraiya's notes, while Leaf doesn't have a lot of sealmasters, it's about to have almost all of them be incredibly skilled compared to your average sealmaster.
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Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Not releasing anything from Orochimaru publically.
 
Sentient Tree said:
Speaking of which, we should probably release copies of the Oro sealing notes to at least the sealmasters working on the Great Seal. It wouldn't hurt to give them a slightly bigger boost than they'll already have gotten.

Combined with Jiraiya's notes, while Leaf doesn't have a lot of sealmasters, it's about to have almost all of them be incredibly skilled compared to your average sealmaster.
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I don't know if they've had enough time to even exhaust jiraiya notes xp yet. Although There could still be narrative benefits from oro notes
 
Sentient Tree said:
Speaking of which, we should probably release copies of the Oro sealing notes to at least the sealmasters working on the Great Seal. It wouldn't hurt to give them a slightly bigger boost than they'll already have gotten.

Combined with Jiraiya's notes, while Leaf doesn't have a lot of sealmasters, it's about to have almost all of them be incredibly skilled compared to your average sealmaster.
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Are these guys actually worth interacting with outside of some research seminars every couple months IC? Its pretty much looking like the best thing we could do to solve the Great Seal issue is get Kagome on the Seventh Path, cook up about 5-6 more superweapons, and maybe phone up Akatsuki to leave Sasori a message/ get some info about the IN from the Kurosawa.
 
MMKII said:
Are these guys actually worth interacting with outside of some research seminars every couple months IC? Its pretty much looking like the best thing we could do to solve the Great Seal issue is get Kagome on the Seventh Path, cook up about 5-6 more superweapons, and maybe phone up Akatsuki to leave Sasori a message/ get some info about the IN from the Kurosawa.
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Maybe as bouncing boards for hazou? Harumitsu inspired hazou to think of HOWS
 
Biosealing has nothing to do with the Great Seal anyway. It would also require sealmasters to learn medical knowledge, which divert efforts away from the Great Seal.
 
Now that I think of it, Kei's lamentations on her sense of self worth and how in her mind it's only due to Hazou deciding it should be her that receives the Pangolin summoning scroll that she has any worth at all, really hits different and harder when you realise that without Hazou's ludicrously overpowered ability to create what I can only describe as "Mathematically correct training plans" her daily XP gain would clock in at a mere approximate 2.1XP per day.

Assuming she started earning XP at around age 10 (A aggregate number to account for the fact that small children aren't very adept at training to be ninja and so would earn less XP) then by this point she would have earned a little over 4k xp in total, and without a optimised skill pyramid that's not even chunin tier.

So this means that Kei owes far more of her personal power to Hazou then she even realises.

Here's to hoping she never cottons on to this little factoid, as her self esteem is already in disrepair as is.
 
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