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Yeah your model of Oro is completely off if you think he's that much of a stupid evil character

It seems like you're at least half joking but if not, he would then lose access to all the Dragon parts on the 7th Path because Hazou is too dead to retrieve them?

Note to self: Go back to using joke tags on jokes.

/joking/not sarcastic/not sarcastic non sarcasticness/not sarcastic non sarcasticness non sarcastic non sarcasticness
 
also why would there be a reputational hit from taking Oro's money? Ami sacrificed tons of people to him for money and no one cares.

Feeling good and moral superior.

Also, Tsunade already knows the value of writing books and selling them:

"Speaking of the book," Keiko said. "You know that the Nara invented the printing press. Well, one of Lady Senju's earliest advances was to write a series of medical textbooks and arrange with the Nara clan to circulate them widely."

Jiraiya snorted. "And wasn't that a fun time?" he said with a laugh. "She badgered Hiruzen-sensei for over a year until he finally authorized her to distribute them outside of Fire. 'Plagues do not care about borders!' she shouted, over and over and over. Can't even remember how many times I heard the two of them arguing about it. She paid for the print run herself, and then hired a whole series of C-rank missions to sell the things all throughout the Elemental Nations. She wanted to give them away, but Sensei convinced her that people would pay more attention if they paid more money."

Unless we ask her about a specific update of her stuff its just going to be a "Don't you think I thought about this, kid?" moment.

Mari showed that MEW could be changed to be more useful for normal civilian stuff, might as well just give some to Mari with some pro-civilian ideas.

Or reward the ninjutsu maker? If they wants some money and work on their own projects, why not help her?
 
1,500 XP. 20% complete

300 extra sealing XP is pretty nice.

Oro+Tsunade notes that Oro offered you are worth 100 to MedKnow and 100 to MedNin.

Noburi will be happy.

N XP/day/instance, to a maximum of 4 instances.
You must study "a few hours" (on the time ladder) per day in order to get the XP.

Is that a total of 4 study sessions per day?

To be clear what I'm getting at, can Noburi spend 12 hours (assuming "a few" = 3) and get 16 XP to MedKnow and MedNin from the notes or will he be limited to a total of 4 XP each day from the notes unless he is able to make a clone, at which point he'd be limited to 8 XP each day?

Likewise for Hazou, can he set one clone (or Prime, himself) to study for four study sessions to get 16 sealing XP or does he actually need 4 clones (or Prime and 3 clones) to spend a few hours each to get to the 16 sealing XP?
 
Unless we ask her about a specific update of her stuff its just going to be a "Don't you think I thought about this, kid?" moment.

Mari showed that MEW could be changed to be more useful for normal civilian stuff, might as well just give some to Mari with some pro-civilian ideas.

Or reward the ninjutsu maker? If they wants some money and work on their own projects, why not help her?
Darn, didn't realize she'd already done it.

Maybe we should pay a jutsu hacker to turn MEW into something that can make metals instead? Pretty much any useful metal would be good, and we can pay the hacker to just keep making more MEW variants until mining is practically obsolete. Salt and other useful minerals might also be something we could get out of MEW.

We could turn Leaf into even more of a raw resource powerhouse than it already is. Even better, there's currently no way to turn the metals into useless forms via jutsu (unless you just really really need a metal wall), leaving civilians to do the skilled labor of turning them into weapons/pots/pans/etc. With the Nara spreading skills like metallurgy around and the GED, this would turn Leaf into an industrial powerhouse.
 
Also Physique shouldn't be *able* to level because it is capped @eaglejarl @Velorien
Just signal boosting this, Physique is capped at 30, so it can't level naturally past 29. If we must suffer the headaches of uncapping everything now, then I feel like we should reap the (very situational) benefits of waiting to upcap Physique until we're ready. If the QMs want to rule that we stop accumulating Pangolin XP while we do that, I'm more than happy to make that sacrifice.
 
I love this community. ^.^

Edit: random thought: one of Kei's now-dead partners was a poet, right? And she was described as a good one. Maybe we can work with Shikamaru to have her work published? As a sort of posthumous honor? Or would Kei view that more like a disrespectful money grab?
 
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I love this community. ^.^

Edit: random thought: one of Kei's now-dead partners was a poet, right? And she was described as a good one. Maybe we can work with Shikamaru to have her work published? As a sort of posthumous honor? Or would Kei view that more like a disrespectful money grab?

No money grab to worry about if the money goes to covering the publication costs and the remainder is donated to X, or (potentially) if given to KEI in exchange for an adoption ticket.
 
Reading back through some old discussion, saw this, was amused:

You could always just have Orochimaru... Not be dead.
His canon self would have survived a measly little utter physical obliteration, after all !

Even if we did do that...so what? It's not like he's going to pop up in the middle of Konoha to talk about all his exciting research. He's stayed off the radar for decades, so the fact that he is very clearly dead would be a lie he very much wanted to preserve.
That aged poorly. :>


Then there's this, in which Kiba is prescient:
There's a whole bunch of things to be done on international diplomacy:

1) Starting Ninja UN.
2) Treaties to stop the useless low-grade war on borders.
3) Establishing permanent embassies.
4) Establishing memorials to the heroes that died in the Battle of Nagi Island.
5) Starting summoner message network on the seventh path.
6) Start the road to federalization once the villages decided that war is dumb shit.
 
There's a whole bunch of things to be done on international diplomacy:

1) Starting Ninja UN.
2) Treaties to stop the useless low-grade war on borders.
3) Establishing permanent embassies.
4) Establishing memorials to the heroes that died in the Battle of Nagi Island.
5) Starting summoner message network on the seventh path.
6) Start the road to federalization once the villages decided that war is dumb shit.

When the general outline of my plan for international diplomacy accidentally come to fruitation....
 
Can we also not auto-level physique yet or is the PCJ an exception for this
Physique auto-levels so long as you put the PCJ up every day, which is the default. If you're doing constant resistance training then your body gets stronger over time, not when you explicitly want it to.

I'm all for this, but we should let the Nara make copies. They have a printing press so we don't have to spend our own time on it, we can just spend some money (which we'll have lots of due to spider silk trade).
The printing press is property of the Tower and made available on a rental basis, under the watchful eye of Tower censors.
 
I am def opposed to this currently. Noburi Ideally should be starting FOOM shortly so all of his time should be going towards that for the foreseeable future. Plus without anything like SSA he doesn't get any massive xp gains from doing it like we do

also why would there be a reputational hit from taking Oro's money? Ami sacrificed tons of people to him for money and no one cares.
The reputation hit would be from being given a blank check and then completely clearing the account out, which is the only reasonable move if we remain in possession of it. Maybe Mari could spin it but meh, I'd rather turn money into more loot. Also, I find it strange that you're arguing against pitting two S rankers against each other in order to shake both of them down for S rank shinies. Seems like it'd be right up your alley
 
I love this community. ^.^

Edit: random thought: one of Kei's now-dead partners was a poet, right? And she was described as a good one. Maybe we can work with Shikamaru to have her work published? As a sort of posthumous honor? Or would Kei view that more like a disrespectful money grab?
Just remember, hazou can suggest it. But himself should not be involved in the publication and specially the money. If a 50/50 with kei if something like that would be fine or a social kaiju.
 
The reputation hit would be from being given a blank check and then completely clearing the account out, which is the only reasonable move if we remain in possession of it. Maybe Mari could spin it but meh, I'd rather turn money into more loot. Also, I find it strange that you're arguing against pitting two S rankers against each other in order to shake both of them down for S rank shinies. Seems like it'd be right up your alley

I'm actually not against trying this. I just don't wanna divert Noburi from FOOMing if he will finally be able to. If that wasn't coming up in a few weeks I'd be much more for it. Also I'm pretty sure that I put a lot less value into medicine than the thread at large does.
 
Physique auto-levels so long as you put the PCJ up every day, which is the default. If you're doing constant resistance training then your body gets stronger over time, not when you explicitly want it to.
Yeah, but it can't on two levels: It breaks pyramids to do so, and it ignores caps. Although I suppose if you want, we can have Resolve also ignore pyramids and caps with the Yamanaka jutsu... :p

E: Joking aside, it's a disruptive standard to set and will probably lead to us looking for other ways to break pyramids and caps since this one provably works.
 
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I'm actually not against trying this. I just don't wanna divert Noburi from FOOMing if he will finally be able to. If that wasn't coming up in a few weeks I'd be much more for it. Also I'm pretty sure that I put a lot less value into medicine than the thread at large does.
How does having Tsunade right a book on medicine divert Noburi from FOOMing? Are you concerned that focusing on medicine too much will make us not want to put his points into shadow clone?
 
Joking aside, it's a disruptive standard to set and will probably lead to us looking for other ways to break pyramids and caps since this one provably works.
I mean, I would like for it to be reversed in this instance but for future similar situations I don't think I'd support trying to intentionally break things more, this seems like a scenario to avoid in the future if anything cuz QMs trying to make sense of it is a spoon drain...

Also I'm pretty sure that I put a lot less value into medicine than the thread at large does.
I think we would value it a lot less if Noburi the character didn't take personal interest in it. But if we are looking to make Medical skills better, why not propose stunts for specialized treatment/MedNinjutsu or doing funky things with biology?
 
I mean, I would like for it to be reversed in this instance but for future similar situations I don't think I'd support trying to intentionally break things more, this seems like a scenario to avoid in the future if anything cuz QMs trying to make sense of it is a spoon drain...


I think we would value it a lot less if Noburi the character didn't take personal interest in it. But if we are looking to make Medical skills better, why not propose stunts for specialized treatment/MedNinjutsu or doing funky things with biology?
Don't forget that xp pools like the J notes and oro scribbles work really really well with shadow clone. It's like you have a shadow clone that for some reason gives you 1.1x xp all by itself instead of .1 per training block. Super super super good.

Especially since Noburi wants to be the next Tsunade...
 
I mean, I would like for it to be reversed in this instance but for future similar situations I don't think I'd support trying to intentionally break things more, this seems like a scenario to avoid in the future if anything cuz QMs trying to make sense of it is a spoon drain...
Well, I mean... If this is an intentional part of the system as Velorien implies, then I would in fact be happy to use it. I believe that it is not, which is why I am pointing out the places where it breaks the system.
 
The Footsteps of Lady Gōketsu
by Gōketsu Keiko and Gōketsu Noburi
"It's a promissory note," Noburi explained. "Probably take us a few years to get around to writing it. Bear with us, okay?"

"This," he said, waving the book around. "Is Icha Icha Love: Stolen Heart, the fifty-eighth book in the series. It is two thirds the size of an average Icha Icha novel and it features Jun and Otoha reuniting. Not just reuniting, getting married." He shrugged one shoulder with a disarming grin. "At which point she joins him on his adventures, both martial and marital. Gotta keep the numbers up, after all."

He turned serious again. "More importantly, this is the first and only time that I have ever published an Icha Icha novel which is just a novel. There are no orders to my agents in this one, no hidden maps, no secret images to decode. This is just a novel of two people coming together and making each other happy. I wrote it in three weeks. It went to press yesterday and this is the very first copy." He held it out to her balanced on both palms.

Mari
Gōketsu Clan Mother
Fearless. Caring. Powerful.
Retired

too much has happened, too much didn't happen
 
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