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Oh right, thought we sold them both of the seals.
I wonder if the Summoning Realm knows about Sky Towers via Pangolin invasion then (and subsequently that Leaf has them via knowing who the Pangolin summoner is)
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Oh right, thought we sold them both of the seals.
I wonder if the Summoning Realm knows about Sky Towers via Pangolin invasion then (and subsequently that Leaf has them via knowing who the Pangolin summoner is)
I am sure they know.
They conquered the Henya? clan, and then they virtually conquered the Condor clan and committed cultural genocide.
But not enough to have everyone gain up on the pangolins, apparently.
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Wait, why would it be trivial to recognize the Pangolin summons as that? Are we assuming that the civilians had a clear view of the summons inside the mist? Because without that, there's really no way to identify them, especially if you consider that, as specified earlier in the story, the Pangolin contract hasn't been signed in hundreds of years. Is it well known that the Pangolin contract was recently signed? Are the Pangolins so distinctive that they would be trivial to identify even when the only people who saw them were panicked civilians while the Pangolins were shrouded in mist? That seems somewhat unlikely.
I understand that maybe Minami might not be aware of this, but every other member of the team certainly is. Why would Keiko not point this out when it was the primary argument that Minami used to justify killing everyone on the ship?
I understand that maybe Minami might not be aware of this, but every other member of the team certainly is. Why would Keiko not point this out when it was the primary argument that Minami used to justify killing everyone on the ship?
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Question: Have the written reports to Jiraya already mentioned the Hazou-Noburi-Kagome-Minami Clan-OPSEC/murder-attempt debacle at all or is he still completely in the dark about it? I know that something about that has been in various plans but I don't remember if they got through since it was never mentioned in story.
@Velorien @OliWhail @eaglejarl if we did tell Jiraya in one of our letters, what, if anything, was his response?
Regarding the two kunoichi, I'm in favor of telling ANBU that we'd prefer to have them be alive and functional when we return. Don't give an actual reason and don't make it look sentimental. I can't imagine that they would disregard such wishes without at least mentioning it to Jiraya. And if Jiraya wants the two girls dead I'm willing to live with that.
Edit: Would civilians, or even random ninja for that matter, even know what a Pangolin is? I don't think the non-intelligent First Path variety is exactly a widespread species. Or are they native to Noodle/Water? If not then big armored and clawed creatures shouldn't exactly be recognizable as anything specific.
@Velorien @OliWhail @eaglejarl if we did tell Jiraya in one of our letters, what, if anything, was his response?
Regarding the two kunoichi, I'm in favor of telling ANBU that we'd prefer to have them be alive and functional when we return. Don't give an actual reason and don't make it look sentimental. I can't imagine that they would disregard such wishes without at least mentioning it to Jiraya. And if Jiraya wants the two girls dead I'm willing to live with that.
Edit: Would civilians, or even random ninja for that matter, even know what a Pangolin is? I don't think the non-intelligent First Path variety is exactly a widespread species. Or are they native to Noodle/Water? If not then big armored and clawed creatures shouldn't exactly be recognizable as anything specific.
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312 miles from the northeastern edge of Noodle to Leaf. At ~20mph...yeah, 15.6 hours. And I'm pretty sure it's 3-4PM, since the morning tide was at 9AM and we attacked 6hr later, at 3PM.
gurrrgh if we run straight to Leaf with minimal stops it'll be 7AM the next day. This makes me sad since Goda is important and we need to get him to Konoha ASAP, but if we slip up 5 billion feet in the air we'll die.
Yeah, probably run until midnight (9 hours) and sleep before doing the last 6-7 hours the next morning.
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We've literally had confirmation that we can stay up for 48 hours without a problem. WW 4 is in play. We can make it in one run
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Hazou and Noburi, yes. Akane...maybe? I dunno what Leaf's program is, Minami didn't seem like she could...
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Well we made sure we got sleep last night. So it would be only 36 hours at most. I personally had stayed up for a day then drove from Pittsburgh to Oklahoma City through the night then worked an 8 hour shift in the morning. So confident the team can handle it.
Edit: talk to Minami and see if she can handle it. If she can make it in one night if not take a break
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...got up before 9AM...6-7 hours + another 15-16...yeah ok. I can see that working. Not that much exercise, although emotional trauma may or may not be relevant.
Yeah, you bring up good points. I think this could work. You think we'd be allowed to sleep in Konoha given that we just went on a midnight run to show up 8AM (or earlier)?
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Probably not in Konoha but a skytower right outside would work. TBH I wouldn't want to stay in leaf proper. To big of a chance we get embroiled in some political scheming which increases the chances the rest of the team dies while we are away. As well as cuts in to potential Hana rescue time
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Didn't Jiraiya already veto saving Momma in his letter back?
Eventually, someone will connect the dot with the report as Keiko becomes more famous. Maybe not in a time period that matter to the team's immediate survival, but enough tactical information to use against us in the indefinite future.
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omg we could make pangolin costumes
like a fuckin' dog costume or some shit
we need to do this
we need to put a dog costume on Pandaa.
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- floating away
Doesn't leaf also have the dog summoning contract?
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butbutbutbut muh doooogs
fiiiiiiiine we'll dress them up as Capybaras. Happy?
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Haven't heard anything back from Jiraiya yet so mission is still potentially in play
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- Poland, Lublin
Okay. Im feeling slightly. . . Mad. She made incredibly enormous jumps in logical chains.
- Water monster making a hole above the water line is weird.
- It's a proper way to break into a ship, since it's bottom is reinforced by a certain, thick and sturdy, wooden Axis. It takes on a major part of water resistance, and made to survive a lot of burden, due to it being what holds the ship together. In Chakra-monster world, this piece of the ship (Which, i need to say, is leading from the front, through the bottom to the back), Would be many times tougher. Because of that - A Chakra-monster from water that (because of Chakra increased characteristics) would most probably hit the ship ABOVE the water-line, to use the least power to destroy it.
- Even if the ship is one of the less comon types which don't use this specific type of construction, I don't believe there wouldn't be a chakra monster that would be beaver-like, and capable of living in the sea. That would easily lead to a situation where the Creature breaks in from above the waterline, And walks around on the board.
- The Monster that got on the ship might've Not killed everyone because of damage it sustained due to the fight with Ninja. It would be incredibly easy to stage a ninja corpse that looked like it bled-out before sailors woke up, leading to the thought of "It was a chakra monster attack. Ninja on-board fought. Managed to get rid of the monster, but bled out due to the damage sustained." And a 'Chakra Monster' changing into a cloud of smoke(?) can be brought up to being one of the monster powers. (Aka, something like Shadow-Clone from original naruto)
- Missing documents from Goda's room.
- Easy - Above board? Blow the whole piece above the deck into pieces. Below board? Make a similar above water-line hole in that place, and use water to make it look like the constant waves flushed out thing from there. And it was supplemented by the monster attacking from there.
- Potential of Sailors and guards and others seeing the Pangolins
- None. Supposedly, all the Sailors went out before we engaged. Any sailor seeing a Pangolin would mean that the Sailor had ninja-like amounts of chakra, easily leading to Noburi noticing him, which led to wiping that sailor out. Besides, as far as i recall, everyone who fought with Pangolins (In the Ultra-dense mist which practically guaranteed not spotting something unless it was in melee range.), Got killed. (Not counting ninja).
- Guards can be easily killed, as they did fight.
- Goda's out. Goda missing from the ship might be took on as him being thrown out into the water, and, unfortunately drowning or even worse - Getting devoured by the injured monster.
- Pertraining to our trump cards and other scenarios, in which we deem that ninja attack has been spotted.
- Ninja throwing gas-bombs on their allies, because they have a way or antidote that let's them do that, leading to even faster fight, which explains why they did that.
- Why would Mist-using ninja be from the Leaf? Surely, not because they kidnapped Goda, since Not only they have buisness in that (Mist might want their kage back).
- In this dense mist, With sailors being the only ones seeing the summoned beasts, I really doubt they would say that it was the Pangolin summoner. There are many animals that could look similarly from the shadowy sights spotted in the mist.
- If we think about "mist was what was used to drain us!", then it is even more proof that It was MIST rather than the LEAF, beacuse MIST is known for its mists, and (Even if it's the legendary wtf technique of water-draining and stuff), It will be conected to Wakahisa clan of the Mist. (Remember, the only ones that actually might know that there's someone from that clan that doesn't belong to the Mist, Are only few people from the mist. And the original source of the information is dead due to the same occurence in which Mist's kage has been kidnapped together with Naruto.)
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Presumably, since we sent the message a while before the Goda situation appeared, the "mission" is referring to the courier business.
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- Texas
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- She/Her
So we're making the following assumptions:
- Panicking civilians are able to accurately provide multiple details about mist covered beasts that they saw very briefly
- Yakuza bosses are able to extract this information after the civilians have been intimidated by a bunch of scary ninja
- Those Yakuza bosses are then able to take this information and distill it into a relatively clear image of what the beasts looked like
- At some point in the future, Keiko becomes well known as the Pangolin summoner and the characteristics of the Pangolins also become well known
- The Yakuza bosses reevaluate a possibly years old report and manage to connect the dots between Keiko and this operation
- The Yakuza bosses decide to make an enemy of Konoha in order to send a message about an operations from potentially several years ago
- The Yakuza spymasters sell this information to various Hidden Villages and eventually to Mist
- The Mist spymasters determine that the Wakahisa bloodline was used in order to knock out everyone on the boat by determining that Noburi must have discovered mist draining by himself
- Mist uses this information to justify a new war
No point in arguing those things anyway. The deed is done AFTER you thought of it.
She didn't talk out loud and the team has less time to reflect on Minami's arguments.
Also, it's a waste of breath when we could be planning our next move. Minami still have trust issues, but that cannot be resolved until someone took a metaphorical kunai for her.
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Well I thought that referred to the Goda mission since all the other questions where in regards to that. Even if it was the courier mission we will be in the area afterwards. He didn't say no just not now. So that means speed is even more important