Remove ads

Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Reader mode
@huhYeahGoodPoint Wonderful Omake, but I think in the context of our plan it's best if Hazou doesn't try to avoid his emotions -- only go so far that it wouldn't compromise the mission, otherwise cry his eyes out.
 
Veedrac said:
Well, the other two.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Moderators and Quest Masters are two completely different things that should not be conflated.

RE pangolins, I have no intention of getting into this pointless discussion, but suffice it to say that there were 10 yakuza staring at the pangolins upstairs, and an unknown percentage of 60 sailors interacting with them downstairs, both at or close to melee range. Mist isn't magic, and dozens of witnesses standing within a few metres of something can generally provide a reasonably good description of it.
 
Rafin said:
Question: Have the written reports to Jiraya already mentioned the Hazou-Noburi-Kagome-Minami Clan-OPSEC/murder-attempt debacle at all or is he still completely in the dark about it? I know that something about that has been in various plans but I don't remember if they got through since it was never mentioned in story.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The written reports have not mentioned it as you lack a team consensus on how much to tell Jiraiya, and in any case would much rather do so in person.
Oneiros43 said:
We've literally had confirmation that we can stay up for 48 hours without a problem. WW 4 is in play. We can make it in one run
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Nobody specified "without a problem".
 
I definitely feel like we should run there in one go, make the delivery, and then sleep in Konoha if we can swing that. It would be good to be in safe ground when the nightmares hit.
 
Velorien said:
The written reports have not mentioned it as you lack a team consensus on how much to tell Jiraiya, and in any case would much rather do so in person. Nobody specified "without a problem".
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I will also note that Akane hasn't had the same training we got at Mist, and I don't believe we ever trained her for it either.
 
faflec said:
I figured if we're stopping Noburi may as well poke them with a wet finger to absorb their chakra.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Velorien said:
The ability itself can't drain fractions of chakra, and 1 CP is enough for something extremely cheap like the Dispelling Technique.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

(I think there's something somewhere that says that you can only have integer chakra amounts, but I can't find it.)

My interpretation is that the QMs don't want to have to deal with chakra amounts that are crazy fractions so they decided to chakra to integer amounts. This means, unless there's a specific ruling saying we can keep someone drained at unconscious, we're stuck with a wake/drain cycle. Or we drain to -1 and risk 30% chance of death. Or I'm misunderstanding/missing something.
 
Last edited:
On another note - Im starting to feel that Leaf is the Ninja equivalent of a well hidden Ninja-supremacism group.

The thing that led me to this conclusion is that (in Minami's eyes as someone who were taught in the Leaf's academy) 60 civilian, innocent lives are worth more than a chance that a single ninja will die.
And comparing ninja to stars is really reminiscent of showing their superiority. Besides, her thinking is the way of thinking that leads to the 'Burn Out' of the people, and it's what Hazou and our team are trying to STOP by Uplifting the world. Our temporary leader led a thought, that 60 people are a drop in an ocean of them. . . Yet we know the decrease in population is visible, Even for us, And we know that it will eventually lead to burning-out of the whole race.
​
So, In short - We're becoming what we want to fight. A part of the problem. I'd also want to point out that a Ninja war leads to numerous civilian deaths, due to ninja mistakes, Civilians deciding to fight for their homes, and Brutal Bandits and wagabonds killing civilians and merchants for gain.

We need to change what we're doing. And i feel like we're putting too much hope into Leaf. We think that when the war happens, leaf will go above mist, drop loads of explosives on the village, and that will be the end of the war. . . But we have no guarantee that Leaf won't go for other villages, ultimately leaving Leaf as the only major village there. We need not to plan for how to get rid of a ship. We need to plan on how to counter skywalkers, find a way to control the Village, Either by threat or resources, and if need be - A way to destroy a village full of powerfull ninja.

So. Time to become Nara-equivalent in plan-making, and become what we implied to Nara's head master. Oh, And on the matter of defending from projectiles when we're on sky-walkers. Point the bottom of your foot against the attack, and trigger sky-walking. Boom. A shield.

- Regarding Skywalker Techniques.

We need Hazou and the team to get rid of being used to walk upright. They need to have that completely disregarded, To the point in which they'll walk side-ways, upside-down, or any other way they can. It's both a good training for them, as well as a seasoning for eventual battles in the air.

Why not use explosives against projectile attacks? If 100 kunai are thrown at us, and we throw back one explosive in front of them, they'll not only scatter to the sides, Some of them will gain additional momentum Back towards our attackers.

We should also think about making ultra-slim force walls and the likes. Having a long, invisible pole in front of your palm is a good way to smack an un-suspecting enemy in the face. The deadly way to smack, if i must say, And can be easily used as a ground layer/pillar for our Sky-tower making technique, Letting us completely ignore ground during making a Sky-tower(you know, The ninja-wire trick to place seals. . . Unless we already found a way to place Sky-walkers without a floor). It's additional secretivity during runs and spy sessions, too.
​
I'd also advise making the MFD YOUTHSUITTM​ with ScreamingInKagome Stamp of approval. Even though it's a dangerous thing that MIGHT pull unwanted attention from deadly-seal-ninja, It WILL be a life-saving card when we're faced with another Kill-room scenario. Knowing how to make that seal quickly, AND having one on hand in case there's an attempt to capture us by way more powerfull ninja can easily leverage the situation to letting us get away, both by making a threat of blowing up the village, AND by blowing up our enemies when S*...Stuff hit's the fan.
 
Last edited:
Kiba said:
Any ideas on how to tie Minami to us? Telling personal stories or some of our mission details?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
When we resume the mission with the team, we arrange for her to have first watch and stay up to talk to her. Offer a "For the next [time period], I'm your friend, not your subordinate" kind of thing, talk about how he's the only one of the other kids who's killed anyone, make sure she's okay, that kind of thing.
 
So a thing I would like to be added to any plan that gets made is to maintain a positive attitude, we need to set a positive tone to keep moral high in the group. Focus on the great job we did in accomplishing the mission while still acknowledge the improvements we can make to reduce casualties on all sides. We are still new ninja as we have not done very many missions yet as we were only focused on survival to the exclusion of the other job skills a village ninja would learn.
 
Traiden said:
So a thing I would like to be added to any plan that gets made is to maintain a positive attitude, we need to set a positive tone to keep moral high in the group. Focus on the great job we did in accomplishing the mission while still acknowledge the improvements we can make to reduce casualties on all sides. We are still new ninja as we have not done very many missions yet as we were only focused on survival to the exclusion of the other job skills a village ninja would learn.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Um. That sounds like to the other teammates a little like celebrating their deaths, which, uh, is definitely not the message we want to send. Saying we handled the mission well tactfully is a little beyond my abilities. Would anyone else like to take a shot at it?
 
huhYeahGoodPoint said:
Um. That sounds like to the other teammates a little like celebrating their deaths, which, uh, is definitely not the message we want to send. Saying we handled the mission well tactfully is a little beyond my abilities. Would anyone else like to take a shot at it?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
"The loss of life on this one was awful and it makes me feel like crap. That said, instead of letting myself be crippled by guilt and sadness, I am choosing to take a positive lesson: We made a mistake, we learned from it, and we *will* do better next time. As part of looking for the positive, I note that the combat side of the operation was flawless. We came up with a good plan and the two of you did so well that there was nothing left for the rest of us to do. Keiko, you demonstrated just how powerful and useful your pangolins are, exactly as you said they would be. Noburi, I don't think any of us realized how strong you have become. You dealt with that situation with surgical precision: no non-combatants were killed in the takedown and you effortlessly captured two experienced ninja with no risk to our team. You guys rule."
 
eaglejarl said:
"The loss of life on this one was awful and it makes me feel like crap. That said, instead of letting myself be crippled by guilt and sadness, I am choosing to take a positive lesson: We made a mistake, we learned from it, and we *will* do better next time. As part of looking for the positive, I note that the combat side of the operation was flawless. We came up with a good plan and the two of you did so well that there was nothing left for the rest of us to do. Keiko, you demonstrated just how powerful and useful your pangolins are, exactly as you said they would be. Noburi, I don't think any of us realized how strong you have become. You dealt with that situation with surgical precision: no non-combatants were killed in the takedown and you effortlessly captured two experienced ninja with no risk to our team. You guys rule."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Hazou is capable of tact???? This opens up so many possibilities! :p
 
eaglejarl said:
"The loss of life on this one was awful and it makes me feel like crap. That said, instead of letting myself be crippled by guilt and sadness, I am choosing to take a positive lesson: We made a mistake, we learned from it, and we *will* do better next time. As part of looking for the positive, I note that the combat side of the operation was flawless. We came up with a good plan and the two of you did so well that there was nothing left for the rest of us to do. Keiko, you demonstrated just how powerful and useful your pangolins are, exactly as you said they would be. Noburi, I don't think any of us realized how strong you have become. You dealt with that situation with surgical precision: no non-combatants were killed in the takedown and you effortlessly captured two experienced ninja with no risk to our team. You guys rule."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Stealing that now, thanks.
 
For reference: In general is everyone capable of waking themselves up at a given time? If not, who is and who is not?

(I ask this because I'm personally capable of doing so and I figure that's the kind of thing that would be trained into ninja, so.)
 
Cariyaga said:
For reference: In general is everyone capable of waking themselves up at a given time? If not, who is and who is not?

(I ask this because I'm personally capable of doing so and I figure that's the kind of thing that would be trained into ninja, so.)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
You mean everyone on the team? Even if they weren't, whoever had watch could wake the others.

In meatspace? Certainly not I :p
 
Here be Sleep Is For The Weak, now with eaglejarl's tact!

Edits in sky blue.

huhYeahGoodPoint said:
here, have a plan or something:

[X] Action Plan: Sleep Is For The Weak
Objectives:
  • Keep Team Uplift Plus One alive.
  • Keep Team Uplift Plus One functional
  • Keep ourselves oriented to our goal.
  • Keep our teammates oriented to our goal, and shut down unproductive thoughts.
  • Continue the mission.
Actions:
  1. Set off for Leaf village with the captives in tow.
    1. Remind the other team to be careful about their chakra use. Run out thousands of feet in the air without an easy way to replenish it is a Bad Thing.
      1. Tell them we're likely to reach the rendezvouz in two to three days.
    2. Ensure they are secured.
      1. This means unable to form handseals, see, hear, or talk.
      2. Have Noburi take a moment during a break to ensure that Goda can't commit suicide by false teeth, poisoned fingernails or whatnot.
    3. Do not stop to sleep.
      1. If Noburi needs a chakra source, he can drain the two kunoichi as we go along to provide extra chakra.
      2. If we stop to eat, make sure our prisoners have something to drink, and maybe a bite to eat. Ensure that they can be interrogated.
    4. Stay calm. You don't gain anything from a depressive spiral, and besides, they are sixty more promises to carry out your ambition.
      1. You don't have to repress your emotions, but don't stop moving unless you're taking a break.
    5. Noburi carries Goda, Hazou carries the dangerous girl, and Akane carries her sister.
  2. Talking with our teammates
    1. If they say how could Minami kill those civilians, respond that we understand her viewpoint, why it's wrong, and encourage them to take this as further motivation.
      1. Specifically, she didn't consider sixty civilian lives to be worth one Leaf life, and by her reasoning, there was a possibility that more might be lost by keeping them alive.
        1. This is wrong, and it's exactly what we're working to fix.
      2. It's wrong because the gradations between humans is too fine to measure - telling shinobi from civilians is difficult enough when they're born, what sins does a civilian commit in thirteen years of growth that makes them unworthy of being factored into moral calculations? How do you tell the difference between a farmer on the border of Fire and Stone?
      3. This is exactly what we agreed to stop in that cave all those weeks ago, sitting by a campfire. We swore to make this better, and we are not abandoning the path now because we encountered some difficulty! We agreed that it was reprehensible there, so don't stop seeing it as reprehensible here! We'll aim to fix this all by doing what we can.
    2. If they say something like how all shinobi should die, stop them. (this includes us, by the way.)
      1. Chakra beasts roam outside the walls of every hamlet, village, and city. To ignore them is the direst of threats, and to argue for killing all the shinobi would be an argument to end all civilization.
      2. Shinobi have vastly greater powers than simply destruction. Destruction is easy, but chakra makes construction far easier than without. To destroy all farming implements because some wield them as weapons of war would be stupid - but here we are, arguing for the destruction of all high chakra entities.
    3. If they ask us how we are so calm about this, refer to 2.1
    4. Remind everyone they did well under the circumstances. DO THIS BEFORE WE SEPERATE!
      1. The loss of life was really bad, and is something we're going to fight to avoid in the future during planning rather than post battle.
      2. However, rather than let us be crippled by doubt and depression, we choose to take a lesson from this, and steel our resolve towards our goal - uplift.
      3. Our strength here was in the combat section - we pulled that off flawlessly.
        1. Our planning was excellent, thanks to your reliably excellent insight Keiko. That wasn't the Frozen Skein refining the plan. That was you.
        2. Noburi, you executed a near perfect nonlethal takedown of dozens of enemy combatants, shinobi included, of unknown abilities. This achievement cannot be overstated.
      4. You guys were brilliant.
  3. Arrival
    1. Hand off the captives.
      1. Ask if they want us to revive them now with chakra water.
    2. Give a debriefing if ordered too.
      1. Mention how the bouncer wants an apartment in Konoha for his services, along with his daughter.
    3. Go to sleep. If there are no places inside Konoha that will take us, go sleep a distance away from the city.
    4. In the morning, pick up some food and weapon supplies.
  4. Rendezvouz
    1. If sleeping outside the city, remember to take shifts. Obviously this is a bad possibility, but a necessary one.
    2. Run for as long as you can before either sixteen hours have passed or Noburi has run down to a liter of water.
      1. Refill on chakra from other sources when we stop.
    3. Sleep in shifts. If we had to sleep in shifts before, last night's first shift is up first, then last shift is up for midnight shift, and then midnight shift is up for last shift.
    4. Finish running to the rendezvouz point.
  5. Contingencies:
    1. If we see shinobi on the horizons above the clouds, drop as fast as we can while keeping the hostages intact and hide. We do not want to be seen by Akatsuki or the Pangolin Summoner.
      1. If we're near Konoha, attempt to make a break for it. They might be skywalker Leaf troops, but ground level is probably safe.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
 
OliWhail said:
You mean everyone on the team? Even if they weren't, whoever had watch could wake the others.

In meatspace? Certainly not I :p
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Hahah, yeah I guess that'd work... just working out the logistics of the talks when we return to the team in my head.

(In fairness I can only do so when I've forced myself to keep to a normal sleep schedule rather than shifting forward a few hours every night)
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top