I don't think EJ would enjoy writing a 'fight scene' consisting of Yuno getting roflstomped.
Respectfully, if someone is duty bound to kill Oro after Hazou's demise, that is Akane. Plus she has FOOM, so the new character will be longer than one update.

Yes, agreed on the Akane bit. And since Akane already has FOOM, the training montage would be faster. The conceit joke was that Yuno would be obligated to kill Orochimaru, and that there hasn't been meaningful combat in so long (due to Hazou's Consequences), it sometimes seems that the only way EJ will get to write combat is to kill off the main character and set up a revenge story arc.

Sorry, I probably phrases things poorly or set up the joke insufficiently.

I suspect that if Hazou dies on Orochimaru's operating table, then Yuno is duty-bound (by Isan Traditions, as Hazou's Formal/Official Friend) to go and kill Orochimaru. I vote that the next pov character be Yuno, and that we go on a training montage to achieve S-rank and kill Hazou's killer.
 
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Still, that's a pretty big concern if a bijuu is unleashed and...no one is skilled enough to contain it. Another item for the contingency list

Does someone have a contingency list in their signature?

Can anyone explain to me why the physics don't let you go below ice?

This topic has been postponed, but I have some cool random trivia:

EJ is exactly right about averaging out molecules in the box if everything was the same material - but it turns out that going from ice to water actually absorbs heat. If you can force ice to melt somehow without directly touching the temperature, the ice will actually go way down in temperature in order to melt, and it can suck heat out of the surrounding material. You can do this by adding salt to some ice that's very nearly 0 degrees (since salt water doesn't freeze at 0 degrees, it freezes at -n degrees). This is how at-home ice cream makers work! You surround a container of cream with ice, pour salt on the ice, it gets the cream VERY cold (can confirm this works even in 80 degree weather).

Not useful for EM that I can see - once the ice/water is salty you can't reuse the trick - but fun trivia!
 
I think my account is too new for signatures? Maybe I'm reading that wrong.

Anyway, I made a public contingencies list in case anyone wants to start filling things in.

I think contingency planning is the wrong way to deal with these sort of problems. We should be more goal focused. So instead of what to do when Oro wants to kill us contingency we reframe it as how to manipulate Oro. Instead of what to do if a tailed beast rampages reframe it to how to steal a bijou. That way they are actionable ideas that set up future plays
 
Maybe the problem isn't laziness or reactivity but that we are constantly getting smashed by things stronger and or larger than us. Every second. Every day. With zero to little time to rest.
 
I think contingency planning is the wrong way to deal with these sort of problems. We should be more goal focused. So instead of what to do when Oro wants to kill us contingency we reframe it as how to manipulate Oro. Instead of what to do if a tailed beast rampages reframe it to how to steal a bijou. That way they are actionable ideas that set up future plays
I still think we do need a list of issues much like the Orochimaru issue such that we actually remember to act on them though... we keep putting around things like "prepare for when Hidan gets back" or "prepare for Asuma being mad about the philosophy letter to F" but like, we ought to actually do it

Maybe the problem isn't laziness or reactivity but that we are constantly getting smashed by things stronger and or larger than us. Every second. Every day. With zero to little time to rest.
Wasn't always like this, we kinda wasted our breathing room
 
Chapter 474: Pretty Damn Far

Mari was the last into the meeting; Kei's lips tightened at the sight of her, but she said nothing as Mari slipped into the last chair, the one between Akane and Noburi.

"Thanks for coming, everyone," Hazō said, looking around the table at his family. Mari, the brilliant schemer and political operative. Noburi, the silver-tongued charmer. Kagome, the insightful and remarkably violent teacher for whom this meeting needed to make clear that wanton destruction was not a good solution. Kei, the other person facing Orochimaru's not-so-subtle threats. Snowflake, Kei's sister who would cease to exist when Orochimaru tore her progenitor's brain apart. And, finally, Akane, the light of his life and the pillar from whom he drew strength when his own was not enough.

He needed her strength now. Badly. His own body and mind were fragile, fractured glass on the verge of total collapse.

"To start, let's make sure we're all on the same page," Hazō began.

"Hang on," Noburi said. "Where's Yuno?"

Hazō barely resisted smacking himself in the head for forgetting his sister-in-law when he summoned the others. "I'm not sure," he temporized. "I guess she hasn't gotten the message yet. Mari, would you mind finding her?"

The redhead had been leaning forward, elbows on the table, staring rigidly at the cat's-cradle tangle into which her fingers had knotted themselves. At Hazō's voice she jumped and looked up. "What? ...Yuno. Yes, sorry. I'll go find her." She slid out of her chair and vanished.

"Noburi, could you grab another chair?" Hazō said. "I didn't think to count when I called people in. There's one in my office."

Noburi gave him a speaking look that made it plain he knew Hazō was covering, but he got up and left the conference room, stepping across the hall to Hazō's office and returning with another chair that he wedged in next to his own.

"What about Haru, Atomu, and the others?" Akane asked. "Should we be inviting them too?"

"I want to keep it close," Hazō said quickly. "Big meetings move slowly."

"Won't they feel excluded?"

"I find it unlikely," Kei said. "Clans do not typically invite every ninja to a command meeting. The others are the newest and therefore most junior members. They will be unsurprised that they were left to pursue their other duties."

Snowflake nodded. "What she said. Although it wouldn't be a bad plan to bring them in on other meetings at some point. Smaller ones where the stakes aren't quite so high. It would be a good way to get a handle on their leadership abilities."

"Noted. Assuming we're all alive in a couple days, I'll make that happen."

"Speaking of things that should be made to happen," Noburi said, "you remember that Yuno's birthday is tomorrow, right?"

Hazō rubbed his face and considered once more trying to lie. "Honestly? No, I didn't. Things have been a little hectic. I already got her presents but I didn't remember it was tomorrow."

"S'all good." He laughed. "Honestly, I figured you might be a little distracted so I bought some stuff you can give her, but now I'll give it to her myself."

Best. Brother. Ever.

"In all sincerity: You are the best brother ever, you know that?"

"Glad you recognize that, Mr MEW. And don't worry, I promise not to mock you endlessly because you remembered to buy presents but not when they were for. I won't call you Mr Forgetful or—"

"Be nice, Noburi," Akane scolded. "He's badly injured and dealing with a lot."

Noburi nodded and made an apologetic gesture.

The door opened and Mari slipped through, closely followed by Satsuko and Yuno. Mari took her former position to Akane's right, Yuno sat beside her husband, and Satsuko sat on the table.

"Right. Thanks for coming everyone," Hazō began again.

"You are our Clan Lord," Yuno said, puzzled. "When you summon us, we come. At least, that is how it is in Isan. Is it different here?"

"He's just being polite, honey," her husband said quietly.

"Ah! Apologies." She nodded to Hazō. "Thank you. It's very good to be included."

Hazō bulldozed straight through the awkward moment. "Just to make sure we're all on the same page, here's what happened last night: I invited all of the summoners who participated in the Battle of Five Clans to the party. I included Orochimaru purely so he wouldn't feel snubbed, but I never expected him to actually show up. When he did, I became afraid of what he would do if he engaged with the family. In an effort to distract him, I asked him to play a board game. He refused. I suggested that he consider it an intellectual challenge. He ignored it again. I heard some of the family right around the corner"—he wasn't going to potentially hurt Kagome-sensei's feelings by saying that he was the inciting force behind the current disaster—"and so I went with the only thing I could think of that might possibly interest him: talking about the Great Seal. Over the course of the conversation he came to the realization that the Iron Nerve allows me to instantly memorize seals. His comment was 'this is something I require' and before I could say anything he hit me with a psychic attack in order to force me to give him all the details of my bloodline."

"Isn't that super double plus illegal?" Noburi asked.

"I think the usual response is 'ninja', but in this case it goes up a step to 'crazy-ass snake Sannin that everyone is terrified of." Hazō nodded down the table to where his trusty red-headed witch was tangling her fingers together in fascination. "Fortunately, Mari saved me."

Mari glanced up upon hearing her name, smiled and nodded, and then went back to examining her fingers.

"She came in just as I was starting to spill my guts and distracted Orochimaru. She told him that I had been urgently summoned by the Hokage. Orochimaru waved this off and made clear that I would not be allowed to leave until he was satisfied. As a second attempt, Mari told him that my bloodline ability wasn't actually to memorize seals, it was to memorize terrain as an enhancement to my taijutsu abilities. That made him lose interest for a few moments but then he decided that he might as well follow up anyway."

Here came the hard part. He took a deep breath and continued. "With no further option to bail me out, Mari looked for a distraction. The only one that was available was the fact that Kei's Shadow Clones are cognitively independent of her."

Kei and Snowflake glared across the table at Mari. Her shoulders hunched for an instant and then she sat up straight and smiled regretfully at her estranged daughters.

"I truly am sorry, both of you," she said. "It was the only thing about any of us that isn't common knowledge and might have been interesting to him."

"Note that she signalled me to extract you and then led the Snake Sannin on a wild goose chase while I did," Hazō said. "This is after she put herself in the line of fire trying to save me. I think you should cut her some slack."

Kei and Snowflake's lips tightened in perfect synchronization. "She threw us under the wagon, Hazō," Snowflake noted.

"I'm sorry," Mari said again. "I did my absolute best not to hurt anyone, and then I did everything I could to buy you time."

"And here we are," Kei said. "Trapped in a nightmare."

o-o-o-o​

"She should be just in here," Mari said, holding the door open for the monster.

"She was supposed to be in the last three buildings as well." The words were too calm. She would far have preferred that the monster be hotly angry. Hotly angry people lashed out clumsily. People—monsters—whose fury had gone cold were far more dangerous. Worse, the air was murky with needles and blades and skin peeled away from bone.

The monster looked around the small and very empty function room. It was a multi-purpose space, a training dummy against the wall making it suitable for close-range taijutsu practice while the tiny suspended bucket-and-bamboo-pipes water element made it excellent for meditation or writing. Fortunately, no one was using the space at the moment.

"I'm truly sorry about that. I really thought she was here. There's one more place—"

"Stop."

Mari turned to face the monster, looking straight into his corpse-white face and snakeborn vertically-slitted eyes while offering a friendly smile and her most open and helpful face. "Truly, I'm very sorry. If you'd like I can find her and bring her to you instead of you having to traipse around? It shouldn't take more than a minute or three. I know she's—"

"I dislike it when people lie to me," the monster said. He wasn't still, instead swaying slightly from side to side like the snake he was.

"Lord Orochimaru, I'm not lying. I apologize for not knowing—"


Orochimaru: Intimidation (?) + multi-tag ? + 0 (dice): ?
Mari: (?) + multi-tag "The Hidden Flame" + tag "Prepped for This" + tag "Team Mom of Uplift" + 3 (dice): ?

Mari is Taken Out. Orochimaru pulls his punch, so she only receives a Mild ("Jumping at Shadows") and Medium ("Conflict Avoidant") Consequence.


The murk in the air collapsed down on her, a collection of blades that rent and tore at her mind to create access for the slithering oozing monsters that followed in their wake. She was ready for it and a shield of flame erupted around her inner self, melting the first daggers and scorching the tentacles of the horrors.

The slit-pupiled eyes glittered and she found herself trapped, a mouse staring into the eyes of a hungry cobra. Her shielding flames flickered, receding as her mental grip on her power slipped under the pressure of those eyes. The knives tore through her barriers, peeled her skull open and flensed away the layers of her brain. Her body dissolved, the pieces separating into conveniently-sized chunks that arrayed themselves on the monster's wall for easy review. Her heart was beating in the open air, her lungs were gasping with no body into which to send the air, and her naked eyeballs, removed from the protection of bone and meat to float helplessly, watched it all happen. There was no mouth, no throat, nothing with which to make sound, and so her screams were locked away in the tattered remnants of her brain as—

The knives vanished and the world coagulated into existence around her. She was on her knees, bowed forward with her arms wrapped around her body the way she had been after each time her uncle finished their games. The taste of blood was on her lips; at first she thought she had bitten them but no, there were sanguine tears dripping from her ears, across her cheeks, to gather in fat drops on her lips before plummeting to the sanded wooden floor.

"Tell your daughter to report to my lab in the morning," the monster said, disinterested and remote. He turned and left.


o-o-o-o​

"A nightmare, yes," Mari said faintly. "I've already apologized, so may I suggest that we focus on waking up?"

Kei and Snowflake glared for one more moment but then they nodded and sat up straight, watching Hazō attentively.

Hazō couldn't help but raise his eyebrows in pleased surprise. That had gone well. No blood on the floor, not even any shouting. Maybe this situation wasn't completely beyond salvaging.

"Now, the priority is to protect Kei," Hazō said. "We can't let Orochimaru kidnap her for experimentation."

"Or you," Akane said.

"Or me, yes. Still, I refuse to lose family to this. Kei, Snowflake, Crystal, Winterlight, Scalpel, Prism, Constellation, Spiral, Moonlight, Soar, Kitten, Whisper, Prayer, Kiss, and any other sisters that I might get in the future—you are all precious to me and I'm not willing to lose you."

Kei's eyes went wide at the recitation of other-self appellations that had only been spoken a single time, at Snowflake's tumultuous first reification. "How did you remember...?"

Hazō smiled and winked at her. "I care about you, O Smartest and Also Dopiest of My Sisters. Of course I remember. Now, as Akane said, I don't want to be kidnapped either. Still, I think you're at more risk than I am. I have the protection of being an actual Clan Head instead of a consort. Kidnapping me would bring down enough of a shitstorm that even Orochimaru might not want to engage."

"Why can't we simply go to the Hokage?" Akane asked. "Surely if he tells Orochimaru to back off, Orochimaru will back off."

"That option is not available to us," Hazō said carefully. "Please do not pursue the topic further."

Silence hung in the air as heavily as any jōnin aura.

"The stinker wouldn't help us, would he? I knew this place was evil."

"Sensei, don't leap to conclusions," Hazō said. "I only said that the option wasn't open. Let's move on.

"Diverting Orochimaru's interest from myself and Kei should, I hope, be relatively straightforward. We simply tell him that the divergence is due to the fact that Kei's bloodline affects her cognition and that bloodlines are not duplicated via the Shadow Clone."

"What if he doesn't believe you?" Noburi asked.

"Then we blow him up."

"Sensei, Konan tried that at the Battle of Nagi Island. It didn't work then and she had even more tags than you do."

"This time he won't have that Pain fellow's cheating tricks," Kagome-sensei said. "Also, we don't do it to him directly. We trap his lab and collapse the whole place on him."

"Do you really want to try breaking in there?" Noburi asked in disbelief. "Do you even imagine that we could?"

"If it means saving Kei and Hazō? Sure. Besides, we've already been in there once."

"Yeah, but—"

"Let's call that Plan B," Hazō said, cutting across the debate. "Unfortunately, Leaf is in the middle of a World War right now and Orochimaru is a major fraction of our combat power." He leaned slightly on the possessive as a reminder to his teacher that they were, now and forever, loyal Leaf ninja. "I'd like to find a way of resolving this that doesn't damage Leaf's military capacity. That would be trading one problem for another since Asuma would be pissed with us."

Kagome-sensei sat back in his chair, glaring angrily around but not arguing.

"Like I said, I'm not willing to lose family to this. We'll lead off with Snowflake's idea; it's solid and will probably do the job. What's our backup plan if it doesn't?"

"I believe my value may be higher than you expect," Kei said carefully. "The summoner trade network, the ability for Noburi to refill summoner chakra at a distance in order to enable the summoned wave assault...these things are dependent on having a collection of summons in one place on the Seventh Path. Right now that coalition is in the heart of Pangolin territory. I will tell Pantsā of the risk I face and ask that he commit to disband the gathering in the event of my death or incapacitation. Although Orochimaru himself will not care about these things he should recognize the importance to others and the resulting issues he would face if he endangered them."

"Interesting point," Noburi said. "Asuma has had me moving chakra around a lot lately, mostly from back-line genin into jōnin who needed to be sent out again, or simply needed a lot of chakra so they could learn an expensive technique quickly. I can make it clear to whomever seems relevant"—he carefully did not specify 'the Hokage'—"that if any member of my family disappears then I stop doing that. No chakra transfers. No summoned wave attacks, no fast recharging, no enhanced training. Nothing. What's Orochimaru going to do, kidnap me?"

"That's a very risky play, Noburi," Hazō said carefully. "I appreciate it, but I think I might have an answer that doesn't put you in as much risk.

"I let Orochimaru dissect me."

Everyone's mouths dropped open.

"Hazō," Snowflake said carefully, "are you having another of your episodes?"

"My...episodes?"

"Yes. One of your episodes where you make insane speeches in front of all the Kage, or talk back to an insane murderer, or burn your brain out looking at a hypermagical artifact, or—"

"Hey! Every single one of those things turned out to be useful." He thought about it for a moment. "Well, maybe not the Kage thing. That mostly just caused trouble. But talking back to Itachi kept him from killing everyone and got us the Porcupine Scroll. Looking at the Pangolin Scroll taught me—" From the back of his brain blared a voice screaming about what Kagome-sensei would say if he knew that Hazō's rapid advances in sealing ability came from staring into the unbridled Out and then returning to the Paint with the patterns of chaos still embedded in his brain. "—taught me a lot about how to manage risk. And looking at the Great Seal meant that I was able to give the Leaf sealmasters what they needed to work on it."

"Hrmph. Bunch of useless arguing no-skill stinkers who don't even know the dances. They oughta..." Kagome-sensei's words trailed off into inaudibility.

"Look, I'm not crazy. We think that Orochimaru wants to kidnap me so that he can dissect me in order to learn more about my bloodline. Fine, I'd like to learn more about my bloodline too. Orochimaru can do his examination, but on our terms. First, we get Naruto and Tsunade to watch the procedure and ensure nothing goes wrong. If we can't convince at least one of them then we don't make the offer. Assuming we can, then it takes place in Leaf General, not in Orochimaru's lab. He doesn't share the information with anyone except me and he doesn't do anything that I can't recover from in a few weeks. Finally, Naruto and Tsunade commit to destroying my body if I die on the table. That way there's nothing to be gained by 'accidentally' killing me."

"In what possible universe do you imagine he would accept these terms, and why?" Kei demanded.

"For a couple reasons. First, if he meets us halfway like this then I'll actively cooperate. I'll stay conscious for the procedure and share whatever useful information I can. I'll—"

"Are you insane?!" Noburi shouted. "You're going to let him cut you open while you're awake? Dude, seriously. What the hell is wrong with your brain?"

"I appreciate the concern, Nobby. I'm not anxious to experience this either, but it's the best way." He looked around the table, studying the universal expressions of disbelief. "Look, if he kidnaps me and does all this then he learns this much." He held his hand up, thumb and finger spread as wide as they would go. "He also takes the risk that someone finds out it was him in which case everyone in Leaf goes berserk. They can't afford to establish the precedent that he can kidnap and murder Clan Heads. He'd end up having to go missing again, and he plainly doesn't want that or he wouldn't have come back. I'm not some nobody. If I disappear there's going to be a massive manhunt for me, and Orochimaru's lab is the first place people are going to check.

"On the other hand, suppose he accepts my deal? Then he eliminates all of his risk in exchange for learning only this much." He moved his thumb and forefinger an inch closer together.

"There is no possible way in which you can know how much he is giving up," Kei complained. "Your argument is completely irrational."

"Heroic," Yuno said. "But, if you will forgive me, it seems unwise."

"Honey, it's okay, you can call him stupid."

"I would never!"

"If we could come back to the point, please," Hazō said, acid in his tone. "Sure, it's a risk. This entire situation is a risk and I'm looking to defuse it."

"It won't start with knives," Mari said quietly.

Everyone turned to her in surprise.

"What?" Hazō asked.

"He thinks that you have the ability to memorize terrain, because I told him that you have the ability to memorize terrain. He wants to know what it is about you that gives you that ability, but he's going to start by investigating exactly what the limits of the ability are. He'll tell you to memorize a certain chunk of terrain by looking at so that he can quiz you on it, or have you walk across it blindfolded without having been on it before. If you were able to do that, then he would start cutting into you while asking more questions so that he could see how different procedures impacted your answers. You won't be able to answer the very first questions, so he'll know that your bloodline is actually something else and that I lied to him." A shudder went across her shoulders; she twitched it away angrily and her voice firmed. "He'll know that it's something related to seals and that will be a lot more interesting."

"...Oh," Hazō said after a moment. "Yeah."

"So Hazō isn't going to be volunteering for dissection. That's good," Noburi said. "We can't go to the Hokage, for some unnamed reason that I will not speculate on. What about the other clans? ISC are on our side, can we leverage that?"

"Perhaps the other clans?" Yuno asked. "As Hazō said before, they don't want to be kidnapped either. Surely they would band together to prevent it."

Mari shook her head. "Maybe, but I don't think it's a good idea. Right now we've got a situation that is dangerous but straightforward. All of our allies are on our side, obviously, so any other clans that we invite to the table are either neutral or hostile. If we invite everyone then some of them have conflicting agendas—they want to hurt us while protecting themselves. If we only invite some of them then we're snubbing the others and opening ourselves up to accusations that we're throwing them to the Orochimaru wolf as a way to protect ourselves."

"Erm," Hazō said. "Fair point."

Silence fell as everyone thought about it.

"Can we please just leave?!" Kagome-sensei burst out. "Honestly, what does it take to get through to you people? They're all stinkers here. They're mean to Kei, they're mean to Mari, they stab us in the back and send maggot worms to ruin our food and glare at us in the streets and bully Honoka and why can't we just leave?! The woods are fine! They're all busy killing each other, let's just take everyone and go back to those islands down south. It was nice there and there weren't any stinking ninja stinkers threatening to kidnap Hazō and kill him."

Hazō smiled sadly. "Sometimes I wish we could, Sensei, but it wouldn't work. Kei and Noburi and I are in exactly the wrong part of our careers to be able to run. We're Summoners with heads full of top secret military information and clan secrets of the Nara. Noburi is possibly the single most important ninja in Leaf right now, what with his ability to enable qualitative changes in warfare by way of chakra transfer. Leaf absolutely cannot afford to let us get away and deprive them of that, much less take a chance that we might give it to another Village. Unfortunately, we don't have the raw power to take on all comers.

"When we ran from the Swamp they sent Zabuza after us, but in a half-assed way. He went home after a while and only came out when there was more information. If we went missing, Leaf would have Inuzuka and Hyūga and Aburame scent-tracker bugs after us and they wouldn't stop until they found us and killed us. Jiraiya once said to me that we couldn't afford to run because they wouldn't stop coming after someone with his knowledge and he wouldn't be able to survive the ambushes and also protect us."

"Stupid stinker didn't know how to set a proper perimeter," Kagome-sensei groused, folding his arms angrily.

"Sure. How do we deal with rocks being dropped on us by skywalking Hyūga? Or, if we go into town to get paper, maybe the lunch stall that we stop at is poisoned?"

Kagome-sensei had no response but much muttering.

Hazō sighed. "Okay, here's what we've got: Inform Orochimaru that Kei and Snowflake have personality drift because Kei has the Frozen Skein and Snowflake doesn't. Kei asks Pantsā to hold the embassy hostage against Kei's disappearance. I do not volunteer for dissection. I also don't call a meeting of all the clan heads and try to get them engaged on this."

"So we blow them up, right? That was Plan B. You said that was Plan B and you didn't find a Plan A so now Plan B is Plan A. Right?"

"Still Plan B, Sensei. Sorry."

"Stupid stinking stupidhead apprentice with his stupid not blowing people up..."

"Anyway. That's what we've got. Orochimaru told Kei to report to his lab this morning and now it's this afternoon so he's probably not in the best mood. At this point I think our best option is—"





What does Hazō think the best option is?

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Well scheiber. Self sacrifice ain't gonna work and for logical reasons.
 
It looks like the same thing to me? I just used more words to be explicit, while you left a lot of it implicit. And that I mentioned storage seals, which we can now ignore to make them identical. Was there any other differences?

"Indirect stacking of EM must also have been a pain in your neck so I'll take "EM doesn't stack" at face value like it should have been in the first place."
It seems different to me once you start engaging storage scrolls. That said, maybe it's not. I'd have to think about it and discuss it with @Velorien and hopefully @Radvic or some other friendly physics-knower. Regardless, the basic idea is that EM does not stack. If you can cheat around it with physics then more power to you but I'm not sanguine that it's doable.

Radvic, if you see this and have any interest in commenting, I'd love to hear your input. The question is whether the Elemental Mastery jutsu, which raises or lowers temperature in a limited area but does not stack with itself, can be cheated to get to lower temperatures than it otherwise could. Here are the rules for Elemental Mastery and the description of roobee's plan:

I mean why can't you have air at 0C. EM cool it to below 0C. use it to cool the ice to below 0. And then use the ice to cool the air below 0 C after the EM wears off. ?

I envision it as. Start with room temperature water and air. EM Cool the air. Air cools the water. Store the water. Air returns to normal. Unseal the water. water cools the air. EM cool the air to lower then before. Air cools the water to lower than before. Repeat until you get water and air at 0C.
EM cool the air below 0C. air starts freezing water into ice. repeat earlier procedure until all water is ice. you have ice and air at 0C.
EM cool the air below 0C. air cools ice below 0C. repeat earlier procedure to get arbitrary cold air and ice.
 
"Tell your son to report to my lab in the morning," the monster said, disinterested and remote. He turned and left.
...so wait, who is Orochimaru interested in experimenting on, again? Why would he tell Mari to get Hazou over in the morning, but not Kei, in this chapter; even though Noburi wrote to us to say that Orochimaru wanted Kei over in the morning, but not Hazou?
 
Yeah that was pretty predictable and well-logicked. Glad we didn't somehow force the dissection. So...as I was saying, as Asuma to send out the core Goketsu for an important mission that also doubles as getting away from Oro.

Also funny thing, seems like Mari's still throwing Keiko under the bus for Hazou (which I approve btw) since Oro is asking for her son and we're operating under the assumption that he asked for Kei.
 
Also funny thing, seems like Mari's still throwing Keiko under the bus for Hazou (which I approve btw) since Oro is asking for her son and we're operating under the assumption that he asked for Kei.
...so wait, who is Orochimaru interested in experimenting on, again? Why would he tell Mari to get Hazou over in the morning, but not Kei, in this chapter; even though Noburi wrote to us to say that Orochimaru wanted Kei over in the morning, but not Hazou?
No, it's just that my brain is made of cheese. Fixed to say 'daughter'.
 
I do not volunteer for dissection.
So, to be clear, the intended takeaway of this meeting is that Mari thinks Hazou will certainly die if he volunteers, Hazou agrees, and therefore both of them agree that volunteering isn't an option? There's a small logical disconnect between what I read and this expected takeaway and given the importance of the topic I think it's important that this is as clear as possible.
...so wait, who is Orochimaru interested in experimenting on, again? Why would he tell Mari to get Hazou over in the morning, but not Kei, in this chapter; even though Noburi wrote to us to say that Orochimaru wanted Kei over in the morning, but not Hazou?
What we saw was Mari's direct memories. How do you think Noburi heard what to write to Hazou?
 
"So Hazō isn't going to be volunteering for dissection. That's good," Noburi said. "We can't go to the Hokage, for some unnamed reason that I will not speculate on. What about the other clans? ISC are on our side, can we leverage that?"

"Perhaps the other clans?" Yuno asked. "As Hazō said before, they don't want to be kidnapped either. Surely they would band together to prevent it."
'What about the other clans' and 'perhaps the other clans' seems like a potential editing oversight?
 
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