Is there any reason we shouldn't just leave the Ami response plan until after the Keiko vs Shika fight? More time to hash it out, and then we can do so with more info.

In part to accommodate for the QM writing preferences and in part because I need more Amisanity in my life.
 
Therefore, my honest suggestion is this:
- Before the fight, tell Shikamaru that you have a very high opinion of his intelligence and his skills in deception. You don't plan to compete there.
- Instead, you're just going to summon a Pangolin, and the two of you will throw explosives at him until he gives up or can't continue to fight.
- It's his job to concede before he dies.

I think this is actually enough. We can optionaly call his bluff with Wood Release, though it is better not to do this in public to not throw a monkey wrench in Nara's plot.

A fair point. He's probably also in trouble even if he can affect summons. Keiko can still attack him if he grabs a summon, and the summon can attack him if he grabs Keiko. The situation gets worse if Keiko can get two summons out.

Shikamaru is not that strong to grab multiple opponents at the time, so with out support of other ISC, he wouldn't have time to finish any of his grabs. He grabs Keiko - Pangolin smashes; he grabs Pangolin (assuming he can at all) - Keiko throws. Unlike Yamanaka's technique, Shadow Bind is comparatevly easy to brake.

Thus, we may not need complicated strategy at all - just brute force.
 
And if @Kiba can decide to aquire a habit, Hazou should be able to as well. Just give us some means to do it explicitly, please.
I guess I was unclear in my longer post. Allow me to try again, more bluntly:

Put an action in an action plan consistently for enough updates and it will become a habit for Hazō.

I feel no need to have mechanics for how many updates it takes before something becomes a habit.

You may feel free to try to get @Velorien and @OliWhail on your side; if they feel it's necessary to have such mechanics then I will go with the majority. I find it unlikely that you will be successful.


Sorry if that post came out as rude.
A bit, yes. Thank you for the apology.
 
I mean, honestly, we're not going to get much better than "summon Pangolin, annihilate", but one thing we could add to the firestorm plan is to get a blanket sheet and use the hot air to literally float above it all.

Alternatively, tie it to a chair with armrests and then put it in a storage seal, to unseal as a literal flying throne :V
 
I mean, honestly, we're not going to get much better than "summon Pangolin, annihilate", but one thing we could add to the firestorm plan is to get a blanket sheet and use the hot air to literally float above it all.

Alternatively, tie it to a chair with armrests and then put it in a storage seal, to unseal as a literal flying throne :V

As awesome as it would probably be, we don't need firestorm to beat Nara's ass. And if it is a real, literal firestorm we create we can easily wipe whole arena due to an unfortunate gust of wind. I strongly object of using such weapon anywhere near civillians

e: exposition, see the "City firestorms" section for body count
 
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@Velorien, would it be acceptable to vote-in two separate plans?:
  1. One for laying the groundwork: making retroactive preparations for Keiko vs. Shikamaru fight, then talking about Ami's second letter with everyone, then checking Ami's story about Experimental Cuisine.
  2. One for the second meeting with Ami, which would include a boatload of contingencies and guidelines, like last time.
The first one could likely be done entirely in the background, and so doesn't merit a full update: it'll be mostly about trying to ensure that everyone is on the same page and nobody made any crucial oversights.

Or are you planning to write the Keiko vs. Shikamaru fight this week, with no time left for the second meeting? If so, we could work on only the groundwork plan.
Once something gets promoted to your attention there's a tendency to notice things that are related to it. If you read an interesting book about high-frequency trading then you'll suddenly start noticing things in the news related to HFT, or to ancillary things that were mentioned in the book. I'm sure there's a technical term for this, but I don't know what it is. It isn't confirmation bias -- I'm talking about what you notice, not about how you interpret it. It isn't cherry-picking, because this isn't a question of deliberately choosing examples that reinforce your position. It's not apophenia because there are actual connections. Anyone know?
Baader—Meinhof effect, I think. Longer article.
 
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@Velorien, would it be acceptable to vote-in two separate plans?:
  1. One for laying the groundwork: making retroactive preparations for Keiko vs. Shikamaru fight, then talking about Ami's second letter with everyone, then checking Ami's story about Experimental Cuisine.
  2. One for the second meeting with Ami, which would include a boatload of contingencies and guidelines, like last time.
The first one could likely be done entirely in the background, and so doesn't merit a full update: it'll be mostly about trying to ensure that everyone is on the same page and nobody made any crucial oversights.

Or are you planning to write the Keiko vs. Shikamaru fight this week, with no time left for the second meeting? If so, we could work on only the groundwork plan.
I think I may be able to finish the Shikamaru/Keiko fight ahead of the main update, in which case you'll be able to dedicate the plan to all things Ami-related.
 
Can someone please help me with taking ISC to pieces?

If nobody helps, we'll be trying to win using a combination of social maneuvering, game-theoretic blackmail, impromptu engineering, and zany schemes — like sensible people. I heard something called "combat tactics" could help us, but I'm not sure what that is (a kind of... tea?), so I'll be putting none of that in.
Summon Pankurashun.
Spread out into different areas so that Shikamaru can't get both of you even if he can catch a summon.
Throw explosives until Pankurashun closes in, then use normal kunai.
Watch as Pankurashun beats up Shikamaru.


My main contribution here is in bold.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by MMKII on Feb 12, 2019 at 8:34 AM, finished with 131120 posts and 4 votes.

  • [X] Action Plan: Reasonable Handling of New Information.
    [x] Retroactive Action Plan: Choosing To Talk Not Fight XOR Accidentally Burning The Audience To Ashes
 
I think I may be able to finish the Shikamaru/Keiko fight ahead of the main update, in which case you'll be able to dedicate the plan to all things Ami-related.
Alright, then.

[-] Retroactive Action Plan: Choosing To Talk Not Fight XOR Accidentally Burning The Audience To Ashes

It's out of our hands now.
(Yes, I am aware that "[-]" no longer does anything. It's symbolic.)
 
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Weird thought: would Noburi's barrel be against the tournament restriction on seals?

Very likely not. (E: Oops, missed the most important word here.)

Mist probably doesn't want to put a magnifying glass on how the Wakahisa work so shifting attention on them by pointing out they use seals would be counterproductive.

(Though let's be honest, those barrels probably fell into enemy hands before but why give them more information, right?)
 
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Hey, dropping in from further wiki work.
Off-topic to the maximum, but I want to tell this joke.
Any intruders would find themselves hopelessly turned around until they stumbled into a fiendish series of traps, while residents who had memorized Genzō's design principles could be blindfolded with their legs tied together, and still be able to navigate the compound as if it were a set of ordinary civilian dwellings.
The real reason behind the traps of the Mori compound isn't to protect against intruders. That is a positive side effect.
There is just one intruder every Mori elder is afraid of, the implications behind his existence a closely guarded secret.
Most of the buildings had been designed many generations ago by Mori Genzō, a branch family member with particularly weak access to the Frozen Skein who had instead turned his attention to architecture. Finding his inspiration in nature, he drew on the patterns and dimensions of seashells, trees and the more fascinating parts of animal anatomy to create houses of mathematically perfect ratios and elegant asymmetry.
They say that, if Rock Lee ever enters the elongated corridors of the Chamber of Beginnings (used for cultivating young saplings, occasionally serving as a classroom for beginners botanical lessons), and opens his mouth to utter his poisoned words, all of Mori Genzōs work will collapse upon itself, and all of his invaluable blueprints will spontaneously immolate and turn to dust.
 
I note that she would certainly be able to do this if we overcharge her a bit with Noburi's chakra water beforehand.

The drawback is she wouldn't have any chakra for buffs, like at all. Enough for one cast of Pantokrators Hammer and thats it, I think. Also this gives her a Mild to Moderate consequence. Not sure if worth.

So I think having Panashe and 1-2 others hiding out underneath the arena would be beneficial, if J thinks we can do it.
What about Pandaa? He could be a threat if armed with explosive tags.
 
HDK, sadly. He didn't immediately post-Hot Springs, so Kagome had to set up a LBF so he could use them, but Pangolins in general have learned to use seals since then. It is unknown whether or not Pandaa is among those Pangolins.
I figured as much.

Unfortunately in tournament combat, I don't think Pandaa will be useful as anything but a distraction,meatshield, or an extra set of hands.
 
KEIKO: Just surrender.

SHIKAMARU: 20 hours.

KEIKO: OK.

SHIKAMARU: I forfeit.

AUDIENCE: ...

Can someone find a flaw in my plan?
 
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