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I will actually do that, i considered that it might take me maybe 4 days to complete it all, if the 1,1 million words means the thread discussions too?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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No, the thread discussions (and the related insanity) aren't included in the word count. The 1.1 million words is just the story.
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- Stuck in the Kamui Dimension!
So I should expect it to be probably 4 million words
XD
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Sure, why not.so i should expect it to be probubly 4 million words
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
It depends. We can fund the expedition ourselves easily enough but we'll need ninjas to run it and having good ninja away for months (if they come back at all) when a world war might trigger any moment isn't good sense.
Also, the sealtech we'd be using to make the expedition possible is under super-maximum OPSEC and we'd never get approval to risk them leaking for something as paltry as this.
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Hmm, well it was a nice idea for the moment
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The trick is to end the war quickly. Radvic would say to use nukes.
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henge It existed in the past but was retconed , so some chapters might still contain references to it.
Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
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- Something Clever
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Well, it wasn't exactly retconned, hence why those chapters still contain references to it. It was grue'd, a phenomenon which apparently operates in some way in-universe (see: Kagome's diary, continued existence of anti-Henge security measures under alternate or absent justifications), as opposed to true retcons like the YOUTHSUIT Incident which have been entirely excised from continuity (as far as we can tell).
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Shouldn't the iron nerve user have to draw the seal first to remember it instead of observing. I get that the iron nerve is a diluted sharingan but instead of observing it, it should be that he has to draw it correctly at least once to remember it subconsciously with the iron nerve right?
Emstar
The Shining One
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Its a mystery as to why thats a thing.
You should read the story! I think a decent amount of what you're wondering in general on a bunch of things is addressed in some way or another (or can be guesstimated/pieced together from context).
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Ok thanks for answering
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
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- Ginnungagap.
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- S/H/T
@TemporaryAcc473 you have a pretty good mindset to match the thread and will fit in just fine as soon as you get caught up.
I'm ambivalent about if you should read all 5k pages. I tend to spend the vast majority of my free time reading, and even I think that's a mite bit excessive. If I were in your position, I would probably go by the main Threadmarked posts, and read a page or two after each Threadmark before going on to the next, for the context of how the thread viewed those incidents.
I'm ambivalent about if you should read all 5k pages. I tend to spend the vast majority of my free time reading, and even I think that's a mite bit excessive. If I were in your position, I would probably go by the main Threadmarked posts, and read a page or two after each Threadmark before going on to the next, for the context of how the thread viewed those incidents.
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Just the main story, even. It doesn't count the side stories and omake.
What? Something is wrong with your browser, because i can't understand what you're saying. Something about hedges?
Sort of.
Watsonian, the Iron Nerve is descended from the Sharingan and, for whatever reason, it allows its owner to perfectly visualize any seal they have ever seen. You do still need to make a successful Calligraphy roll to accurately produce that mental picture, but you only have to do that once and then you can always draw it successfully from them on. Note that the Iron Nerve does not allow you to draw seals faster, it simply ensures that you draw them accurately once you've done so before.
Doylist, back at character creation the Iron Nerve was just supposed to grant a minor boost to all physical skills, with the fluff being that actions were perfectly reproduced. We thought that was a little underpowered for the cost of a bloodline (30 points out of 72), so we (the QMs) voluntarily threw in the ability to retain seals as an extra benefit. It later turned out that the bloodline was intended as a gotcha -- it seemed perfectly reasonable, but the person who had designed it had thought of all these ways to exploit the fluff in order to make the bloodline substantially more powerful than we had expected. As such, we've declared that the seal-copying ability cannot be munchkined. It does exactly what it says on the tin and any attempts to use it in other ways will fail for no apparent reason.
Emstar
The Shining One
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I don't actually see his footnote #7. Are you sure about that?
Can I get a source for this? It would cut down on a lot of steps for my evil plans if we already knew these existed and could bum the research notes off of someone/talk to them about it.
I am not really convinced that the playerbase wouldn't exploit fluff somehow regardless of what the Thingy was.
Also, here's an extremely funny throwback:
Three years and change later...
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TBF back then points into skills was actually really good. Like, level 18 in a skill was supposed to be near Jonin levels of good.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Did he really intentionally hide the awesomeness of that bloodline? I thought that it was known from the first chapter. Wasn't it already in the prologue that Hazou used it to perfectly gamble, show off his jumping skill after managing just once by luck, and other such talents? And that without much training? Or is it the diplomacy/deception stuff that was the "gotcha"?
Now to the chapter:
I don't really get what the point of Mist introducing Ito into the tournament is if they then make him face the highest placed opponent without sufficient preparation as to what to expect. Why didn't Last Kurosawa et al prepara prepara him more specifically to at least have a chance against his first opponent. This way Mist arguably embarrassed themselves more than if they hadn't had anyone attend the final tournament at all and not even in a way that came as a surprise to them or any jōnin that knows anything about the scion of the Nara.
Am I missing some simulationist consideration that makes this decision make sense from the side of the Mist leadership?
Yeah, at the time of that comment I was envisioning the skill difference between Sakura and Sasuke at the start of canon.
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Perhaps Ito is a scion of one of Ren's political rivals? Him losing in such a manner would weaken Mist, yes, but it would all be on Ren's enemies and would at least allow Mist to have some presence in the tournament (which is arguably an even greater embarrassment).
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
That's true, but I doubt that would've gone over well as a build decision. Either explicitly ("No you can't do that.") or implicitly ("How strange it is that you keep running into Genjutsu Crows and almost dying. It's almost as if great specialization has a cost...")
I tried to get into this quest after binge reading it circa Dec 2016, but the mechanics were too annoying and poorly documented for me to puzzle out at the time.
I'm glad that things were changed to FtD (and that there is a very well put together rules doc. I like reading these sorts of things.) since it lowers the barrier of entry for thread discussion (also listening to people scream about putting more XP into TacMov or Sealing was annoying, though they were correct from a mechanical standpoint that this was probably a good idea)
The brackets were (I think) determined by point totals from the first five events of the exam. That guy scored the lowest and Shikamaru scored the highest, so they were destined to meet up in combat.
I'm sure that Ren could have fudged things more but I'm not sure that would have been beneficial if there was some traditional way to determine tournament brackets.
Also: Mist pulled some strings to get Doigama (the poison guy from our team in Event 5) to drop out so that one of their candidates can fight in the tournament they're hosting.
That didn't work out too well for them IMO. This entire exam seems like it would be a major embarrassment to them.
That also sounds decently plausible.
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Obviously, i can't know for sure, since I don't have access to his brain state and can't know when he came up with these ideas. That said, my recollection is that very shortly after the bloodline was approved he said something to the effect of "I have so many ideas on how to use this". Also, on a different occasion he was transparently metagaming when he explicitly stated that the new jutsu he was proposing was based on INT because Hazō had already sunk a lot of points into it due to Sealing, as opposed to because it made sense, which, IMO, it did not. (I think it was a jutsu. Might have been a skill, combat style, or something. Regardless, I very clearly recall thinking that INT was not the logical stat for it.)
The prologue that he wrote, yes. Granted, we canonized it so that's on us.
Getting him into the tournament meant replacing someone. The person they were able to replace was the guy from (EDIT: Backstory/QM discussion memory failure on my part)
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Wait, what? I thought Doigama was from Wolf?
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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I keep thinking he's from Fang but I realized those are two of the other people? BeatStick McBadassette and the Genjutsu Gentleman?
Most of these minor villages all sound the same. Fang, Claw, Bear, Wolf. There's also a Mountain country IIRC, which is not to be confused with the Mountain village that we visited (which is actually located somewhere in Tea country IIRC).
Anyways, I think it was implied that Mist probably had to fork over some stuff to Wolf in exchange for a favor on this front:
Ito was likely in for several reasons. Ren is playing a multi-layered political game that requires careful balance.
Mist looks bad if none of their own people are in their own tournament. It would make Mist look weak. So Ito gets included.
Ren wants an alliance with Leaf, but there are a significant number of internal issues with that. She has to make things harder for us so she appears anti-traitor, but she needs Leaf to win the tournament. Ito is clearly rather anti-Leaf, and publicly made statements to that effect, then lost badly after his Leaf opponent offered him a mutually beneficial long term deal (as the Nara are wont to do) and rejecting it.
The carefully crafted message is that Mist is strong (they're in the tournament), but not as strong as it should be (only one entry). That Leaf is significantly stronger than Mist right now (majority of contestants are Leaf, and Mist's entry lost to Leaf), that Leaf is willing to make a mutually beneficial deal, and that rejecting that deal will lead to a humiliating defeat. Except next time it will be for real, and that defeat means Mist dies.
Mist looks bad if none of their own people are in their own tournament. It would make Mist look weak. So Ito gets included.
Ren wants an alliance with Leaf, but there are a significant number of internal issues with that. She has to make things harder for us so she appears anti-traitor, but she needs Leaf to win the tournament. Ito is clearly rather anti-Leaf, and publicly made statements to that effect, then lost badly after his Leaf opponent offered him a mutually beneficial long term deal (as the Nara are wont to do) and rejecting it.
The carefully crafted message is that Mist is strong (they're in the tournament), but not as strong as it should be (only one entry). That Leaf is significantly stronger than Mist right now (majority of contestants are Leaf, and Mist's entry lost to Leaf), that Leaf is willing to make a mutually beneficial deal, and that rejecting that deal will lead to a humiliating defeat. Except next time it will be for real, and that defeat means Mist dies.