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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Halberdier said:
I think you're at the point where it might just be easier to read the story it find that stuff out first hand :p

Also you can't substitute with a kunai, since the object has to be close in size. There's also the page that has a list of jutsu we know and what they do, that's helpful to check as well.
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What I meant by substitute with a kunai was that after Hazoe kawarimi's with the log he can kawarimi again and be armed with a kunai :D.
So I can find all about the politics and if the world has any knowledge of mathematics or astrology by reading the story right? Because I have read the google doc about the in-world knowledge of the different villages and the situation from Hazoe, but It doesn't say anything about the aforementioned mathematics, astrology and other things.
I don't know if the google doc has any info on the world from all the chapters that have already passed like I said about above mathematics and stuff. I understand that Hazoe even has a book on mathematics or algebra,i can't remember for sure.

BTW I haven't read the story yet, I just have some knowledge of the going arounds from the community discussions, I don't mind spoilers either because I don't really care about what happens I can still enjoy the how it happened from reading the story.

I'm questioning about this because while I'm focused on this subject of the world with its knowledge and flying vehicles might as well get in depth, before I read the story to not lose my thoughts later on.
 
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Halberdier said:
I think you're at the point where it might just be easier to read the story it find that stuff out first hand :p

Also you can't substitute with a kunai, since the object has to be close in size. There's also the page that has a list of jutsu we know and what they do, that's helpful to check as well.
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Speaking of jutsu @TemporaryAcc473 ...
Henge does not exist. Because the QMs decided it was too OP.
 
Dissonance said:
Wait apocrypha isn't right, it'd be informational. Stercus, mea culpa.
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Point. Fixed.
Noumero said:
Example of "straightforward" numbering
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That...is not what I would consider straightforward. I suppose it is if you go to the first footnote and then read through all the footnotes before returning to the main text, but that's not what I would expect someone to do. I expect people to read the main text, read the marked footnote, go back to the main text, etc. That is how every text I've ever seen does it.
TemporaryAcc473 said:
1) Are we allowed to know anything about the world you're building or have build beyond what Hazou already knows?
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We occasionally write interludes that show some aspect of the world that the players have not yet encountered. We also answer questions about things that Hazō would logically know but have not come up on camera yet.

TemporaryAcc473 said:
that means that they have absolutely no knowledge of mathematics and astrology probably even any medical knowledge.
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The 12th century in the real world had a surprising amount of math. Timeline of mathematics - Wikipedia

The world of MfD is ahead of where it should be, mostly because I've been sloppy about anachronism. You'll see this as you read.

TemporaryAcc473 said:
Everyone is pretty much at each other's throats. Right?
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Yes and no. There are major nations and alliances between them. There are also minor nations that continue to exist either because they have a carefully managed set of alliances with the majors (eg River, which is allied with Wind and Fire, who are in turn allies), or because someone extremely powerful lives there (eg Hot Springs) and so taking it would be too expensive, or because it has nothing of interest (eg Iron), or because it's a place that you Do Not Go (eg Bear), or etc. I think there's an informational threadmark about that.

Thing to remember: In the real world, geopolitics was determined by who had the best army. That usually meant who had the best combination of population size, military tradition, and resources. In the EN, geopolitics is determined largely by where a couple dozen people live. Countries survive if they have one or more S-rank ninja (and/or a jinchūriki) living in them or alliances with someone who does. The points I made above about alliances are really more about alliances between individuals than between nations per se. Sarutobi Hiruzen was a good example of this -- he was in favor of peace, so he made alliances with minor nations, at which point everyone left those nations the heck alone.

TemporaryAcc473 said:
the first thing to do for the advancement of the world would be political stabilization or "world peace"
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Pax Konoha is indeed a thing the players have talked about. Indeed, it's a thing that they have had a substantial impact on, albeit indirectly and debatable as to whether the impact was positive or negative.

TemporaryAcc473 said:
I read that the kawarimi can switch the person with an object and that it switches the momentum and directions of the objects.
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Where did you read that? The information is out of date... We had originally planned it to work that way because we hadn't thought it through. Then @Radvic pointed out that this allowed creating relativistic kunai nukes by way of a technique that every Academy student had. The world could not look like it did it that were the case, so we changed it. (Radvic has required several such changes. *rueful-headshake*)
 
Items that ninja'd in as I was typing the above:

faflec said:
h̢̢̋ͩ͋ͧ̃̆͗̂͒҉̷͕͔͎̞̘̙̙e̴̴̛͚̥͇͙̟̱̩̟̼ͤ̏̇́̍ͨͭ̾̃͊͊̉̈̃͒͂́̚͘͟n̷̿ͦ̈́ͧ̑҉̴̪̩̩̲g̸͈̰͇̳̗͖̩̲̲̣̃ͤͥ͐ͣ̂̈́͌̄̒̓̾ͮ̉̄̆̔̚ȩ̂ͦ͌͋ͬͭ͗҉̘͎̬̳͇͈͖̳͉̠̙̳̠̻ does not exist. Because the QMs decided it was too OP.
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What doesn't exist?

(Also, it's because it was too much of a pain in the ass dealing with the constant flood of questions and attempted exploits, not because it was too OP.)

TemporaryAcc473 said:
Hmm.. well is there any jutsu that is similar to it like a physical transformation (doesn't have to be OP like turning into a small animal or birds).
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Not that Hazō knows of, aside from the Akimichi technique the the Loremaster mentioned. Whether those are a bloodline or secret family jutsu, Hazō does not know.

Incidentally, the correct spelling is Hazō. If your keyboard doesn't do macrons easily then it would transliterate as Hazou. "Hazoe" is incorrect under all cases.
 
eaglejarl said:
Items that ninja'd in as I was typing the above:


What doesn't exist?

(Also, it's because it was too much of a pain in the ass dealing with the constant flood of questions and attempted exploits, not because it was too OP.)


Not that Hazō knows of, aside from the Akimichi technique the the Loremaster mentioned. Whether those are a bloodline or secret family jutsu, Hazō does not know.

Incidentally, the correct spelling is Hazō. If your keyboard doesn't do macrons easily then it would transliterate as Hazou. "Hazoe" is incorrect under all cases.
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I was wondering why Hazoe seemed weird to me, i forgot that it was Hazou, sorry about that.
 
eaglejarl said:
Point. Fixed.

That...is not what I would consider straightforward. I suppose it is if you go to the first footnote and then read through all the footnotes before returning to the main text, but that's not what I would expect someone to do. I expect people to read the main text, read the marked footnote, go back to the main text, etc. That is how every text I've ever seen does it.

We occasionally write interludes that show some aspect of the world that the players have not yet encountered. We also answer questions about things that Hazō would logically know but have not come up on camera yet.


The 12th century in the real world had a surprising amount of math. Timeline of mathematics - Wikipedia

The world of MfD is ahead of where it should be, mostly because I've been sloppy about anachronism. You'll see this as you read.


Yes and no. There are major nations and alliances between them. There are also minor nations that continue to exist either because they have a carefully managed set of alliances with the majors (eg River, which is allied with Wind and Fire, who are in turn allies), or because someone extremely powerful lives there (eg Hot Springs) and so taking it would be too expensive, or because it has nothing of interest (eg Iron), or because it's a place that you Do Not Go (eg Bear), or etc. I think there's an informational threadmark about that.

Thing to remember: In the real world, geopolitics was determined by who had the best army. That usually meant who had the best combination of population size, military tradition, and resources. In the EN, geopolitics is determined largely by where a couple dozen people live. Countries survive if they have one or more S-rank ninja (and/or a jinchūriki) living in them or alliances with someone who does. The points I made above about alliances are really more about alliances between individuals than between nations per se. Sarutobi Hiruzen was a good example of this -- he was in favor of peace, so he made alliances with minor nations, at which point everyone left those nations the heck alone.


Pax Konoha is indeed a thing the players have talked about. Indeed, it's a thing that they have had a substantial impact on, albeit indirectly and debatable as to whether the impact was positive or negative.


Where did you read that? The information is out of date... We had originally planned it to work that way because we hadn't thought it through. Then @Radvic pointed out that this allowed creating relativistic kunai nukes by way of a technique that every Academy student had. The world could not look like it did it that were the case, so we changed it. (Radvic has required several such changes. *rueful-headshake*)
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First would be about the 12th century thing. What I meant was if the world you have in this fanfic is like japan only country in the world with like way more land mass or does it include like Eastern Asia, Europe and the other similar land masses, because I saw the map and it looks nothing like japan or even our in real life world, I based my question on the basis that during the 12th century Japan didn't have any advanced or even complex mathematics, they were just farmers and sword wielders with leaders among them from what i have gathered from these sites about the 12th century japan : https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/kana/hd_kana.htm , Edo Period , History of mathematics - Wikipedia And that japan had some advanced mathematics only after like 200 more years after the 12th century.

The second is the kawarimi replacement, I read that from the google doc about the player knowledge: Player knowledge located on page 14 out of 50 Scooterboo's kawarimi muchkinery questions, i got it from the answers. If it isn't correct then i guess explain in depth rather then remove the answer? not sure really.
 
TemporaryAcc473 said:
The second is the kawarimi replacement, I read that from the google doc about the player knowledge: Player knowledge located on page 14 out of 50 Scooterboo's kawarimi muchkinery questions, i got it from the answers. If it isn't correct then i guess explain in depth rather then remove the answer? not sure really.
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That shit is out of date. A lot of shit is out of date. Look at my sig, it has a list of rules and jutsu which should be the most up-to-date. Also seals, but that's more iffy since it's generated by me and not by the QMs.
 
TemporaryAcc473 said:
First would be about the 12th century thing. What I meant was if the world you have in this fanfic is like japan only country in the world with like way more land mass or does it include like Eastern Asia, Europe and the other similar land masses, because I saw the map and it looks nothing like japan or even our in real life world
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That is because it isn't Japan or our real life world. It is a fictional world with made up geography, society and culture with some real world influences. See Geography
 
faflec said:
That shit is out of date. A lot of shit is out of date. Look at my sig, it has a list of rules and jutsu which should be the most up-to-date. Also seals, but that's more iffy since it's generated by me and not by the QMs.
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Well, thank you for providing the lists. <3
Maybe try contacting the QM or the people that update the wikis or sites with the story quest for correct information, hmm, maybe try updating it officialy with the help of eaglejarl every 2 to 3 months Or when major changes happen?
 
TemporaryAcc473 said:
Well, thank you for providing the lists. <3
Maybe try contacting the QM or the people that update the wikis or sites with the story quest for correct information, hmm, maybe try updating it officialy with the help of eaglejarl every 2 to 3 months Or when major changes happen?
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The wiki is self-maintained and I, personally, do not care for it. The QMs have lives outside of this quest and probably do not have the spoons to undertake another such massive thing.
 
eaglejarl said:
The world of MfD is ahead of where it should be, mostly because I've been sloppy about anachronism. You'll see this as you read.
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To be fair, mathematic sophistication tends to follow application. MfDverse wouldn't be able to get away with Pi = 3 nonsense, if only because it would lead to some sealmaster eventually making it true within some very unfortunate locale until the langoliers cleaned it up.
 
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TemporaryAcc473 said:
What I meant was if the world you have in this fanfic is like japan only country in the world with like way more land mass or does it include like Eastern Asia, Europe and the other similar land masses, because I saw the map and it looks nothing like japan or even our in real life world
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I believe we ran the numbers once and figured that the Elemental Nations as a whole are about a quarter the size of Australia, except with less desert. There may be stuff outside the Elemental Nations, but not a single person has ever seen or heard anything about it if it exists and no expeditions have come back alive. Kagome says this is the work of the Village Hidden in the Depths, but even if so we don't know why or how.

It's a relatively long-term goal of ours to start an air-based expedition to find out what's beyond the EN's borders, but that'll have to wait until we've got the homeland under control first.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
I believe we ran the numbers once and figured that the Elemental Nations as a whole are about a quarter the size of Australia, except with less desert. There may be stuff outside the Elemental Nations, but not a single person has ever seen or heard anything about it if it exists and no expeditions have come back alive. Kagome says this is the work of the Village Hidden in the Depths, but even if so we don't know why or how.

It's a relatively long-term goal of ours to start an air-based expedition to find out what's beyond the EN's borders, but that'll have to wait until we've got the homeland under control first.
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Would getting the homeland under control first be like political stabilization or EN world peace before we even consider Air or Ocean expedition?
 
TemporaryAcc473 said:
I have not read it yet. As you said i just jumped into the thread, but will read it after i find some music to listen to :D
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You should really read the thread.

As in the entire thread.

As in all 5102 pages, and counting.

Otherwise you miss out on a lot of shit. The story will only take you so far, and it doesn't include a lot of the context.

Or don't. I don't care, I'm not the boss of you.
 
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