NOBURI: Hazou, you are no longer allowed near my medical supplies.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
NOBURI: Hazou, you are no longer allowed near my medical supplies.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
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- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
HAZOU: That's fine, I am pretty sure I saw a vendor sell glue right around the corner. I do warn you though, should her fists start smelling because they are rotting you have no one to blame but yourself since you had to be such a spoil sport and take away
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Marked for Death is socialist propaganda confirmed
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
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- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Marked for Death is socialist propaganda confirmed
To be fair, it seems to be switching genres often.
But unfortunately my attempts to turn it into a body horror story don't seem to be very successful because people have the audacity of having morals.
I mean, is it that much of a stretch to go from wearing a CHAOS suit to an AKANE suit for improved combat performance?
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Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
I already have Campfire Seals and Handwarmer Seals on the to do list. No need to wrap ourselves in a pile of malfunctioning heating equipment.
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- Stuck in the Kamui Dimension!
I think this would be my last question before i go and read everything i can from the provided help by MMKII, faflec, Tua, OliWhail, MadScientist and Inferno Vulpix.
Can we somehow create a plan for Hazou to invent or discover ideas about creating better technology and stuff like that, like how Isaac Newton made his gravity theory, maybe we can make Hazou read books about things like that or discover new elements and new things. I mean, how would we even go about this kind of stuff or are we stuck with the current knowledge and tech. In this world can't we somehow make Hazou discover new stuff that can be made into new tech that isn't in his current preindustrial era.
And if we make a plan how much can we plan for let's say that he wakes up and goes and picks up youthful jumpsuit and goes to drink tea later in the evening before he goes to bed. Right, so when he goes to bed or starts sleeping are we done for the day can we make a plan for the next few days, or are we limited to day to day bases so that it is easier for the writers to set it up?
Can we somehow create a plan for Hazou to invent or discover ideas about creating better technology and stuff like that, like how Isaac Newton made his gravity theory, maybe we can make Hazou read books about things like that or discover new elements and new things. I mean, how would we even go about this kind of stuff or are we stuck with the current knowledge and tech. In this world can't we somehow make Hazou discover new stuff that can be made into new tech that isn't in his current preindustrial era.
And if we make a plan how much can we plan for let's say that he wakes up and goes and picks up youthful jumpsuit and goes to drink tea later in the evening before he goes to bed. Right, so when he goes to bed or starts sleeping are we done for the day can we make a plan for the next few days, or are we limited to day to day bases so that it is easier for the writers to set it up?
An Abridged History of MfD Up to 2019-01-13
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- Yes.
Alright, so...Spoilers.
- We don't know how true-to-canon a lot of people are. Don't ask what happened to Obito. Hazou doesn't know.
- We don't know a lot of techniques other people have. Don't ask if the Mangekyo Sharingan exists, because HAZOU DOESN'T KNOW (a Tsukuyomi-like technique was used, but it is unclear if it is Tsukuyomi).
- Lots of clans are OC because Kishimoto isn't great with worldbuilding outside of Leaf. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MAKE OC BLOODLINES AND POST THEM WHERE THE QMS CAN SEE YOU. THEY WILL MAKE THEM CANON AND USE THEM TO TRY AND KILL YOU.
- We are in ~12th century Japan/Asia, meaning no computers, no radios, and no guns. If you are unfamiliar with what 12th century Asia is like, it sucks.
- The world of Marked for Death is worse than normal, because this is a deathworld, meaning literally everything has evolved ways to try and kill you. The reason everything is out to kill you is because chakra exists, and has seeped into the natural flora/fauna. Meaning they can use chakra for their own taijutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, etc.. All of which is used to kill you.
- Ninjas are extremely powerful due to the ability to use chakra, bloodlines, and generally better quality of life. Consequently, they represent an absurdly overpowered upper class who can slaughter significant numbers of civilians without having to worry. In other words, the canon plot point of "Haku's family of ninjas is killed by civilians" or the "armless Zabuza is killed by Gato's civilian mercenaries" never happens. Because ninjas are bullshit.
- It is generally accepted that the Sot6P was responsible for giving chakra to the world. Whether this is true or not is yet to be definitively established.
- Word of QM says that Zetsu, Kaguya, and the Moon's Eye Plan do not exist. This is because those plotlines are dumb.
- All summons are in a different dimension. A literal different dimension, you can't walk to Mount Myōboku. Legend has it that the Sage created said dimension, and the Summoning Scrolls to allow communications (and other things) to go between said dimensions. There are a lot of legends about the Sage.
- Hashirama still formed Leaf, with many other villages responding in kind soon after. Madara still exists, betrayed Hashirama, and lost their battle. It is unclear if Madara survived or not.
- Villages consist of mostly clans with bloodlines who joined forces in order to avoid getting slaughtered by big villages (though some exceptions still exist). Civilian-born ninjas are considered barely above missing-nin in the sense that they have no loyalty to any clan, though things are improving. Somewhat.
- The Land of Iron is an impoverished shithole. The leader, the 'Liberator', attempted to overthrow the ninja order due to the oppression of ninjas, and supposedly had some way of enhancing the civilian population to be capable of fighting ninjas. The ninjas did not like the idea of being overthrown and banded together to stop that. Which means that they slaughtered the lot of them.
- The three ninja world wars still happened. Kakashi still got the Sharingan, and nobody knows how he didn't die in the process (12th century tech should not have allowed a successful eye transplant). Uzugakure was still destroyed, because they were insanely powerful sealmasters and an international coalition didn't like the idea of them having power. Shit went down, nobody knows exactly what happened. The entire invading force, and Uzugakure, went poof and vanished.
- Yagura is...not insane as he was in canon. He's still an authoritarian asshole who introduced significant oppressive laws in Mist and generally made the quality of life there shit...but he's not stupid. No massacres of clans (save the Kaguya, who were still, apparently, insane), no 'kill your teammate to graduate the Academy'...that would be self-destructive. So it didn't happen. He's still the Sanbi Jinchuriki, or was until [SPOILERS].
- Akatsuki exists, with all canon members save Tobi (unseen) and Zetsu (retcon'd) having made an off-screen appearance. Their motivations are still unknown to us.
- Orochimaru still left Konoha. His true motivations are unknown (but probably still sinister).
- Naruto is still the Kyuubi Jinchuriki (blah blah or was), but Konoha treated him kindly because neglecting your jinchuriki is dumb. He's openly the Yondaime's son and Jiraiya's godson, and Jiraiya pretty much raised him. Properly, this time. He is far more skilled than he was in P1 of canon, and was able to defeat Zabuza with his abilities (NB: Zabuza is the thread's bogeyman and a low-S class ninja here. He's not a scrub like in canon).
- The Hyuga Incident is unknown to have actually happened.
- The Uchiha Massacre still happened, but Itachi spared Sasuke and civilian Uchiha. Whether the massacre was ordered or not is unknown to the playerbase.
- Many of your expected characters may be somewhat OOC due to QMs deciding that their canon selves, and the reasonings for them being like this, is dumb. Hinata acts far more confident because Hiashi would not neglect his daughter and heir apparent in such a dumb ass way. The Hyuga as a whole are elitist as fuck (they're kinda assholes, you know?). Tenten got characterization.
- We fled Mist as missing-nin and went to hide in Leaf. Which was a mother fucking dumb ass decision, since Leaf has a whole fuckton of sensor-types. We (Hazou, his teammates Noburi and Keiko, their sensei Mari) escaped the budding hidden village and left them all to die horribly.
- We got recruited into Jiraiya's off-the-books spy network and infiltrated the quoteSecond Coming Of The Liberatorunquote. Which was a front for Orochimaru's sneks. We got a new teammate (Akane), who is a female, and less insane, version of Rock Lee.
- Kagome joined the party. He is a paranoid conspiracy theorist who reguarly fears mind-control chakra plants being inserted into his various orifices. He is also an explosives sealmaster and likes blowing stuff up.
- We traveled to Tea and mucked around finding a Summoning Scroll. In the process we rediscovered a truly Hidden Village (since they isolated themselves for four hundred-odd years) and proceeded to upend their entire social structure by taking their sacred artifiact (the Summoning Scroll) and leaving. Keiko signed the Pangolin Summoning Contract, and got a cute little Pandaa.
- We traveled to Hot Springs, a demilitarized zone known for its resorts and...well, hot springs, to steal a message. We proceeded to kill a Jonin, two civilians, and a Chunin (?), and wrecked part of an inn. We were also spotted. This resulted in Hot Springs allying with Mist in order to kill us, since Yagura still retained his murderboner for missing-nin, and polarized the continent because Mist gained access to a continental front to send its ninjas to attack other countries like Leaf.
- Jiraiya made us go to the Land of Rice, which isn't openly controlled by Orochimaru. We kidnapped a biosealer (if you know Worm, think Bonesaw) and cut off parts of her face.
- We got to interact with Leaf-nin (yay!) and then got stuck in a killbox (NAY!). Jiraiya kicked us out.
- We fled to Iron, Snow (which is an inhospitable shithole where barely anything lives), and then to some small summer islands south of nowhere. In the process we discovered that a seal we had access to let us cheat out flight (Skywalkers). We promptly sold said seals to Jiraiya in exchanged for becoming Leaf-nin and his adopted clan. We also sold seals that allow for airborne platforms (Skytowers) to the Pangolins.
- Flight is a big deal in this world. A ninja who can fly has an obscene advantage over a ninja who can't. Leaf promptly began planning to decapitate Mist's leadership in order prevent the next Ninja World War. They then carried out their plan, using Naruto as bait. They mostly succeeded, except Hiruzen died fighting Yagura. Apparently he had a bad day.
- Unfortunately, Akatsuki managed to find out about their battle and kidnapped Naruto and Yagura. And slaughtered everyone else save Jiraiya*, who barely managed to get out alive.
- *Naruto's Jonin-sensei, Nakamura (yes, not Kakashi), survived because he fled when Akatsuki attacked. Zabuza faked his death, although Hazou doesn't know that.
- Jiraiya took the position of Godaime Hokage by threatening to murder the clans if they didn't comply, and also fulfilled his promise to us by adopting us as his clan. Hiashi is pissed at this and has been plotting to overthrow Jiraiya and take the hat himself.
- We went on a long-term courier mission with Minami Nikko, a member of a potentially allied clan. Who then died, and her clan blamed us and we lost a fuckton of money as a result. We are now broke.
- The Chunin Exams started (yay!) in Mist (NAY!). We went because not doing so would show weakness, and Jiraiya's position is tenuous.
- Keiko solved our problems by selling Pangolins more Skytowers. More on this later.
- We went to the Chunin Exams. Mist was a bunch of petty assholes, but we managed to make the tournament (where we are now). It was looooooong.
- It turns out the Pangolins are the Summoning Realm's equivalent of Nazis. And we just kickstarted their expansion and genocide of their races. But we can't stop givin them Skytowers, since then we'd be broke again and our position would be FUBAR. Oh noes.
- Hazou's mother got to go to Leaf as a "diplomat" (yay!) and then proceeded to turn our adoptive mother into a suicidal mess (NAY!). Jiraiya responded by beating the fuck out of her and kicking her out of Leaf (yay?). Tsunade has been trying to help her. Akane (our ex-girlfriend/teammate/fellow ex-missing nin) tried to do it a different way. Tsunade popped her. Akane's funeral is scheduled for next week.
- We are now at the tournament. Leaf has won every single one of their matches unless they were fighting against fellow Leaf-nin. Noburi lost to Hinata, which is bad because it makes the Goketsu look weak relative to the Hyuga, their political rivals.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
We can guide Hazou in his research, make him curious about avenues of research we know are fruitful, as long as we're subtle about it, but we can't inject information into his head. For instance, if we want to invent radio, we can have Hazou start tinkering around with springs and wires and Lightning jutsu and investigating their properties, and then try to coax him into discovering 'holy heck you can make one thing listen to another thing at a distance' and then expanding that into a coherent radio system.
We fully intend to have Hazou invent and discover all sorts of things over his lifetime, and we can get him working on stuff that'll provide results instead of something that's a dead end or just plain wrong like miasma theory, but it all has to make sense IC.
As for plan duration, we can plan as much or as little as we want to, and the QM will do their best to write a full update worth of stuff from it. If we have too much stuff in the plan for Hazou to do in one chapter, they'll just pick a good breakpoint to end the chapter and let us make a new plan. Similarly, if something happens that interrupts the plan (Your week of research was cut short when Itachi broke into your inner sanctum) then the QMs are likely to stop it there and let us adjust things.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Can't discover these things without in-story knowledge but as long it can build on previous knowledge, no matter how primitive he could get there.
For example, players have wanted to invent zeppelins for a long time and at one point Hazou saw that hot air rises while watching the campfire which would be enough to get research into that started. Don't expect it to be either fast or easy though.
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- Location
- Stuck in the Kamui Dimension!
Thank you all for the extensive replies to my questions! <3
I will be reading every piece of information I can get my hands on so that hopefully I can somehow contribute to at least a very basic development to this world's technology.
Btw, as Tua said Hazou saw that hot air rises while watching the campfire. Did you guys make him do that like for example, did you do it like this for that zeppelin research:
Hazou gathered the materials needed for the campfire and lit it up for him and his friends. Then he sat on a log near the campfire and stared aimlessly into the campfire's flames, and he noticed that hot air was moving upwards from the fire.
Can we just make him follow step by step for developing zeppelins, but we start very basic like with the hot air, then we make him observe balloons and how they float, and etc. And does it have to take too much time like, let's say that QM limit it so that it would be rational that he will make a zeppelin in let's say 7 or 8 years or can we make Hazou observer and influence him into pumping hot air into balloons and maybe later on into the paper mache sphere's in like 10 days? And be done with zeppelins in a month?
I will be reading every piece of information I can get my hands on so that hopefully I can somehow contribute to at least a very basic development to this world's technology.
Btw, as Tua said Hazou saw that hot air rises while watching the campfire. Did you guys make him do that like for example, did you do it like this for that zeppelin research:
Hazou gathered the materials needed for the campfire and lit it up for him and his friends. Then he sat on a log near the campfire and stared aimlessly into the campfire's flames, and he noticed that hot air was moving upwards from the fire.
Can we just make him follow step by step for developing zeppelins, but we start very basic like with the hot air, then we make him observe balloons and how they float, and etc. And does it have to take too much time like, let's say that QM limit it so that it would be rational that he will make a zeppelin in let's say 7 or 8 years or can we make Hazou observer and influence him into pumping hot air into balloons and maybe later on into the paper mache sphere's in like 10 days? And be done with zeppelins in a month?
- Location
- Yes.
We've already given Hazou the idea to make hot air balloons, but haven't really gotten all that far past that.
- Location
- Potato land
That we know of.
Oh boo hoo you poor mathematician. Did you just finish getting approval for the syllabus of the custom, 6-week training course your undergraduates will need to complete before being certified to ethically handle chalkboards in the lab without endangering your project? How many times have you had to have the same argument with the evangelical minister's housewife that no, this subtraction operation isn't purely the product of cackling sadism and that the sacrifice of those cute little integers really is necessary? Did you complete the third re-examination of the safety procedures the art history liaison is demanding to ensure that you don't accidentally divide by zero and destroy the Earth? Oh crap, we forgot to save the paperwork proving that the abaci storage cabinet's tracking thermometer was from an approved vendor! Better throw out the last six months of theorems.
New plan: We'll have Noburi include a "drain and refill" program for all of his checkups on ninja, under the umbrella of "med-nin discretion", and then we'll call it a retrospective study
I love that essay so much. I used to struggle endlessly to try to convey what it's like, and now I can just point people at it.
The flora has similarities, but tends to be much more difficult to catch.
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- Under a Rock
I don't think we've encountered any carnivorous chakra-air? Kagome might have though.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I'd be surprised if he hadn't, honestly.
- Location
- NY
It is, but if Raiton jutsu behaves enough like actual electricity, we'll be able to get at the stuff without too too many hassles.
Still, we'd be better served using it for its unique lightness rather than burning shit.
- Location
- Under a Rock
Huh. Narrowing in on aluminum specifically would be difficult, but once you have it, applying Raiton jutsu to it to see what happens seems like it would be within the paradigm of alchemy.
Come to think of it, alchemy in general might be a more profitable pursuit in the EN than it was in our world. Given that we can apply chakra and generate fire without burning anything, phlogiston might be real. Although googling suggests that phlogiston was an 18th century theory.
- Location
- NY
I've already suggested the experiment we need - see if the air smells the same in the wake of Raiton jutsu as it does after lightning (ozone). Easily accessible electricity gives us LOTS of further experiments to try. Raiton electricity would also give us the Haber process for ammonia, which in addition to fertilizers and explosives also gives us nitric acid, which in conjunction with having hydrochloric (from electrolysis of water) and sulfuric (from sulfur and nitric acid) acids are the basic mineral acids historically isolated by - I think - Golden Age Islamic alchemists.
@eaglejarl please accept this peace offering from a semi-trained pseudo-qualified chemist.
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Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
- Location
- NY
I'm up for it on the condition Hazo writes the customer satisfaction survey.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
- Location
- Under a Rock
I'm thinking of industries we could set up with seal tech. Someone else has probably mentioned all of these, but
- Could we try selling gold leaf? We might be able to make it very quickly using a pair of forcewalls. We would need to cut a deal with the merchant council, saying that they are entitled to a large fraction of our profits.
- Could we use high intensity, fine grain macerators to clean hard gems?
- Can a macerator raise the temperature of an object? We could sell microwaves. Provided we somehow know about the motion->heat connection.
- Could we use a banshee and a 5sb reflector dish to make the most badass drilling rig ever?
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Maybe add "patent troll" to the list? Because that invoice needs to happen.