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- Europe
The Arachnid scroll also needed a Hyuuga to beat a roll with 85, so we also got kinda lucky.
Here I just want to know what happened with Shinki and murder some people.
Do you want punching or not!?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
The Arachnid scroll also needed a Hyuuga to beat a roll with 85, so we also got kinda lucky.
Here I just want to know what happened with Shinki and murder some people.
Do you want punching or not!?
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- The Void
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- She/Her
I feel it will probably be around 6 updates but don't think it will take very long in universe to find it. We don't have to be subtle which really makes things simpler
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- USA
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- He/Him
What was this a reference to?
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- The Void
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- She/Her
We can get a scroll and put ourselves in a better position when negotiating concessions. Very good reasons IMHO.
This gets us more allies for DRAGON WAR which is super important
Leaf is hardly in a position to be fighting a two front war.
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- Italy
I don't dislike to idea, but we need to ask Asuma for permission before starting the preparation. It could very well restart the Cloud-Leaf war and it is not something Hazou can decide on it's own. First we need Asuma permission, then we can start everything else.
Unrelated, i feel that trying to keep Akane from dying is somewhat more time-sensitive, as she could on a mission basically every update. We proposed an idea, i'll try to make a plan of it(It would let us Resolve-skip, and it would entail a conversation with Asuma ,so we could do both at the same time)
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- Liverpool
This sounds more like an ad-hoc reason to do a thing you want to do, than an optimal way to do the thing you're saying it does. If you want a scroll because scroll hunts are fun and it boosts Goketsu power, sure. But unless you legitimately think invading enemy territory to take a legendary treasure from them is going to serve as a positive value during what might be them currently backing off from a war, I just ask you present why you want to do things. "Because it's a quest and would be fun" is, IMO, much more persuasive for this particular argument, even if I'll admit to being unlikely to support it anyway.
Getting Krakens on board when we already have spiders talking to sharks is already doable, if that is a priority. And any dragonwar priority argument is going to meet that the summoning scroll is absolutely not going to us, it's going to another sealmaster, like Scary Aburame Senpai (well, maybe not him, because he's 80, but up get my point)
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- Europe
The scroll isn't even likely there, only potential info what's going on with the previous owner. Aand the idea is to take a look while we are at war with them. Not wait until it's over and then violate whatever peace treaty we have.
How likely is Cloud and Rock to accept a peace treaty that actually matters to Leaf while they are at 80-90% power anyway?
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- She/Her/They/Them
Well,
but now that I think about it...This is a sealmaster meme in-universe, isn't it? Oh Sage.
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- The state of Paranoia
If we get another scroll for the dragon war, it should go to a Hyuga. It's one thing to give one to Kagome first, since apparently he's currently the best non-snakey sealmaster in Leaf. But now that he has one it's imperative that we get one for a Hyuga so they can use their cheating stinking cheater eyes to take a closer look at it. They can see which directions chakra is flowing and collaborate with Hazō to make a model that reflects that (maybe color it to show directions of chakra flow?), or confirm where exactly chakra is leaking out. They can even confirm whether the cracks are all throughout the structure or not, and whether that's where the chakra is leaking out.
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Yes this is obviously step 0 before we go on scroll hunt
I mean raiding enemy territory during a war is totally acceptable. If we do it now we won't be starting a war. We get to inflict more damages on people who tried to kill us. Do I also think that this would be fun? Sure but the only reason I am pursuing it now is because a lot of things have lined up in favor of it.
And since this mission is going to be strictly done by us we are going to get to keep the scroll
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- Yes.
Neji already has a scroll?
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Neji can do all of these things. No reason to empower our enemies
edit: ninjad
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- Europe
Just ask Mari if she thinks this mission makes sense, she has days to plan and all Goketsu resources.
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- The state of Paranoia
Good point, I forgot about Neji. Why isn't Neji there yet? The turtles are supposed to be super fast. Is he having trouble getting one to go?
We should ask Asuma about that and whether there's anything the Tower can offer to help Neji convince one to go to Arachnid ahead of the crusade.
The turtle didn't show up for the conclave.
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- The state of Paranoia
Did they send someone to Arachnid though? That's what we really need from them, a Hyuga at the great seal. A Hyuga sealmaster would be better, but at least Neji would be helpful.
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Note that I'm not asking if one arrived, just if one was sent. I know we don't have a turtle there right now.
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Hazō-Triggered Dominoes that Reshaped the EN
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- USA
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- He/Him
Ah, I wasn't familiar with that. Thank you.Well,
but now that I think about it...
This is a sealmaster meme in-universe, isn't it? Oh Sage.
Topic change:
I was reading through some earlier chapters and found myself amazed at the long-term nature of some of what's happened.
Chapter 23: The team meets Jiraiya. He sends you to investigate the Liberator
Chapter 30: Since you did a good job with the Liberator, Jiraiya give you a lead on where to find the Pangolin Summoning Scroll (although he claims not to know what animal it's for)
Chapter 51: Keiko becomes the Pangolin Summoner
Chapter 116.2: The team sells skywalkers, a jōnin, and the Pangolin Summoning Scroll to Leaf in exchange for clan status.
[somewhere in here, offscreen]: Recognizing the military significance of skywalkers, Leaf baits a trap for Mist, aiming to draw out and ambush their major military force. It works; the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny (USoUD) is fought. Hiruzen and Mei are killed, Naruto and Yagura are taken by Akatsuki.
Chapter 124: Jiraiya becomes Hokage and starts the search for Naruto
Chapter 177: At the Chūnin Exams, Team Uplift meets Team Bloodrage
Chapter 183: The Mist Oyabun points the team towards Team Bloodrage as interesting
Chapter 185: Team Uplift talk to Team Bloodrage and discover that they are shady as hell and probably related to Akatsuki in some way. They immediately pass this information to Jiraiya
Chapter 209: Jiraiya returns from capturing Team Bloodrage and turning them over to the Yamanaka for interrogation. They reveal that they are a peripheral part of Akatsuki's network, along with the name and location of their handler
Chapter 213: Noburi and Kakashi go off and capture Team Bloodrage's handler, who provides information on Akatuski and their doings, including a hint to where Naruto might be
Chapter 256: At the Chūnin Exams, word arrives that Gaara has been taken. Zabuza shows up and is about to leak information about the USoUD, news of which would likely have ignited a war
Chapter 257: Hazō distracts Zabuza long enough for Jiraiya to take him outside and prevent him from spilling the beans
Chapter 260: The Battle of the Gods (BotG) is shown, in which a large plurality of the military force in the EN fights against Akatsuki and...wins? Kinda? Anyway, Naruto is recovered, Jiraiya dies, Tsunade and Hiashi are badly wounded, and many Leaf jōnin die
Chapter 261: Hazō becomes head of Clan Gōketsu
Chapter 263: You learn Mist funded the Liberator to gain a foothold on the continent, which they got later after you demolished the Hot Springs inn. Could Rock's attack be because of hidden EN politics... influenced because of that? That would mean Rock's attack is directly due to what you did there and then. It would have been decided once when you helped get intel on the Liberator, and then a second time after the Cold Stone Killers incident.
Chapter 277: Hyūga Hiashi becomes Hokage
Chapter 294: Orochimaru fought alongside Leaf in the BotG and, as a result, Jiraiya pardoned him. He returns to Leaf.
Chapter 300: A series of massive sinkholes drop various buildings into the ground, killing the Hokage and the senior leadership of most of Leaf's major clans. The perpetrators of this attack are theoretically unknown, but it's clear to everyone that Rock survived the BotG relatively unscathed and must have recognized Leaf's weakness after the BotG. The fact that a bunch of their ninja show up to 'help with reconstruction' and claim a valuable chunk of land from Fire Country as payment, is an amazing coincidence. I think this is where Asuma becomes Hokage, but it might have been a chapter or two later, or in a non-story post.
Chapter 457: For some unknown reason, Rock attacks in force. Asuma declares war.
All of these dominoes have completely reshaped the Elemental Nations, and they are ultimately down to Team Uplift.
EDIT: Added @Lysbeth Succubus 's entry on ch263.
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- Yes.
Oh dear.
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It's an older meme, it's been used as a caption for a number of pictures and then it was revived by its use as a pill item in the game "the Binding of Isaac".
And Chapter 263: we finally learn Mist funded that same Liberator to gain a foothold on the continent - which they got later anyway. Could Rock's attack be because of hidden EM politics... influenced because of that? That would mean Rock's attack is directly due to what we did there and then. It would have been decided once when we helped get intel on the Liberator, and then a second time when we messed up in the Cold Stone Killers/Stone Cold Killers incident. Spookay.
... Just saying, I wasn't there then. Not responsible!
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- UK
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- He/Him
I don't know, I can see you as the "power behind the throne" type. Maybe we've entered the climactic arc in which the real villain behind plot twists previously believed to be accidental reveals herself dramatically.
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- She/Her/They/Them
This is the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me 🥺
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- USA
I think this is a fantastic idea, @Rafin , and deserves more attention.
To expand on this, Sasuke is not only a sharingan user, but unless I'm mistaken, he was probably Kakashi's genin as well. This both means Sasuke may already know some or all of these jutsu and/or be familiar with how Kakashi adapted them for human use. This is worth discussing and investigating.
Given our usual problems with going over heads, I'm going to propose an order of operations like this:
[x] Plan - Eyes On You
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* [Off-screen, unless necessary to have on-screen] Sanity check plan with Mari/Kei/etc.
* [Optional scene, possibly off-screen] Discuss what Atomu has already learned, if anything. If he hasn't been able to get them to work, tell him not to worry - you tried as well, and even with the Iron Nerve, it hasn't worked. There must be something you're missing, and reassure him that you'll look into it, but encourage him to keep trying himself and thinking about it further.
* [Off-screen] Update Asuma on what we've learned about dog jutsu - Kakashi knew at least three of them and you've been given permission to learn them, but your attempts to do the same thing didn't quite work.
* [Off-screen] Ask Asuma for permission to involve Sasuke and see if Sasuke can learn the techniques, then teach them to other humans.
* [Off-screen] Explain the situation to Cannai and ask for permission to involve Sasuke. He isn't a clan member, but he's a village member that you trust. (Add that he was Kakashi's genin if this is accurate.) If Cannai is okay with involving Sasuke, ask for permission to form a contract with Cantahapuyu for this purpose. (Even if he doesn't want Sasuke involved, ask about contracting Cantahapuyu for other potential training purposes.)
* If given permission, explain situation to Cantahapuyu and ask if they're willing to help out and/or form a contract.
* [Backup scene option] If not given permission to involve Sasuke, instead attempt the other two jutsu that are being offered and see if you can figure out more about why they may not be working.
* If all prerequisites permissions are given, explain the situation to Sasuke and see if he's willing to try to learn the dog clan techniques (assuming he doesn't already know them) and help your clan learn them. Discuss the possibility of finding ways to expand this to learning other summon clan jutsu if you're able to get this first stage to work. If not, skip scene.
I'm new to plan-making for this quest, so I'm not sure if this is properly formatted, but my intent is only to have roughly 2-3 scenes on-screen: the most important being talking to Cantahapuyu again after getting relevant permissions (if applicable) then talking to Sasuke.
I'd also recommend we employ a jutsu hacker and attempt to incorporate them, but that's outside the scope of this plan. (Irrc, a jutsu hacker was a potential adoption candidate a while back? Did we ever follow up on that?)
Please feel free to steal any/all useful elements from this for other plans.
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All according to Shikaku. Which is why he had to die, he knew too much.
Note: Shikaku means qualification.
Second note: it may also mean deer district.
Death note: or certain death.