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Hazou Gift Ideas:

-Earthshaped Friendship Bracelets, made from Walls Near the Hearth. Include matching ones for Tenten, Kei, Akane, Hazou, Noburi, Kagome, and Mari.

--And hire someone to make Snowflake a bedroom, then set Snowflake on a shopping spree with Akane and Mari to decorate it (all-expenses paid).
 
For the purpose of making a GS replica, our ES level is about to jump by 16 when our Consequences wear off. If we really want a higher number than that, since it's a single roll we can cover the difference with FP and Aspects.

If we actually want an ES level 60 or higher, it's faster to level Resolve first.

Actually, along the lines of your necro Aspects post, brainstorming more ES Aspects than we were able to invoke last time would be good if we want to burn Hazou's FP surplus on the ES roll.

Edit: for reference

I do realize we'll be consequence-free soon. But most our fate points and an entire day are both resources we can't spend often. There's not much for it at this point, I really was just bringing up that it was a depicted limitation
 
"Anyway. There's the one that boosts your speed, the one that boosts your sense of smell, and the one that lets you howl real loud. It was intended for long-distance communication but he once mentioned that he used it to stun an opponent. Which of those would you like to learn first?"

Just be clear, these aren't actually attainable without further negotiation/trading, correct?

Otherwise there ought to be some XP amount we can use to purchase these jutsu. A super high XP of 500 (for example) for a super smell dog-based jutsu that gives a bonus to alertness might not be unreasonable, and in character it may take years of Hazou (on and off, in his spare time) messing around with the parameters and instructions before he can get it to work. We might never actually do it, but it's important to know if it's attainable with sufficient work or just not at all without a fair trade creating a workable jutsu for a non-Sharingan.
 
Just be clear, these aren't actually attainable without further negotiation/trading, correct?

Otherwise there ought to be some XP amount we can use to purchase these jutsu. A super high XP of 500 (for example) for a super smell dog-based jutsu that gives a bonus to alertness might not be unreasonable, and in character it may take years of Hazou (on and off, in his spare time) messing around with the parameters and instructions before he can get it to work. We might never actually do it, but it's important to know if it's attainable with sufficient work or just not at all without a fair trade creating a workable jutsu for a non-Sharingan.
They're all perfectly attainable as is, since they're jutsu the dogs "know" can already be used by humans. Problem is more that we have no way of actually cracking how to do it because Hazou (nor Atomu) having cheating cheater eyes that can bypass the issue for us.
 
They're all perfectly attainable as is, since they're jutsu the dogs "know" can already be used by humans. Problem is more that we have no way of actually cracking how to do it because Hazou (nor Atomu) having cheating cheater eyes that can bypass the issue for us.

I mean attainable as a usable jutsu, not as an optimistic butt dance with well-intentioned thoughts.
 
I mean attainable as a usable jutsu, not as an optimistic butt dance with well-intentioned thoughts.
Everything that Hazō knows is in the update:

  1. The jutsu can definitely be used by at least one human (Sharingan Kakashi, the Copy Ninja)
  2. Hazō was able to perform both the physical and metaphysical trigger components of the jutsu in what seemed to Cantahapuyu like the correct way
  3. Nothing happened when he did it.
 
So, @ProperAttorney brought something extremely important on Discord that everyone seems to have ignored:
Did giving Mari shadow Clones massively increase the strength of Truth Lost In The Fog? It's not certain that a SC losing memories would make Mari Prime lose memories
Was this answered before? Because it really seems like a workaround. Naruto had commented on using SC to induce personality drift. It seems entirely plausible that they could be used to prevent personality drift: Mari creates say three clones, one of them uses TLitF, then she merges all of them. If her emotional attachment to some memory was X, and one of the clones now has 0, then merging all of them would average out to her having 0.75*X of emotional attachment! Even having just one clone out should only halve the attachment, which is still a major qualitative improvement.

And in practice it might be even better: we get only 10% of the XP clones nominally accrue, so perhaps the emotion-loss would also be only 10%!

Eh? We should point that possibility out to her.
 
So, @ProperAttorney brought something extremely important on Discord that everyone seems to have ignored:

Was this answered before? Because it really seems like a workaround. Naruto had commented on using SC to induce personality drift. It seems entirely plausible that they could be used to prevent personality drift: Mari creates say three clones, one of them uses TLitF, then she merges all of them. If her emotional attachment to some memory was X, and one of the clones now has 0, then merging all of them would average out to her having 0.75*X of emotional attachment! Even having just one clone out should only halve the attachment, which is still a major qualitative improvement.

And in practice it might be even better: we get only 10% of the XP clones nominally accrue, so perhaps the emotion-loss would also be only 10%!

Eh? We should point that possibility out to her.
This is a valuable hypothesis but one that's probably hard to test. To the best of my understanding, Mari doesn't get any feedback on what emotional connections she loses, so a single use of the jutsu would likely be inconclusive without an extensive and rigorous cataloguing of all her memories and associated emotions, and even then could she ever be sure she accounted for everything? So instead she'd have to test it multiple times, enough times that she'd definitely be able to notice if it was still taking from her, and at that point you're really banking on being right because otherwise she's just sacrificed a lot of emotional attachments for no gain.

The valuable part of TLitF Shadow Clones isn't the forgetting part anyways, so I can easily see Mari noting the possibility but ultimately deciding to shelve it. Still, can't hurt to bring it up.
 
The valuable part of TLitF Shadow Clones isn't the forgetting part anyways
It's quite valuable. Effectively unlimited use of TLitF's active function would allow for all kinds of exploits. Memory-looping for supercharged interrogations or brainwashings, or for testing out negotiation approaches. Duping someone into sharing information in exchange for some commitment, then erasing their memory of that entire meeting (could even be used on people we don't want to alienate, e. g. Leaf ninja!). Working in compartments: feeding Mari treasonous ideas then erasing them from our own mind, then using our now-oblivious self to sell perfect deceptions as part of clever schemes. Consensually save-scumming tricky social interactions or therapeutic interventions until we achieve desired outcomes.

That's like one of these bullshit shticks that make you a real S-ranker, except for a social specialist.

It's less important in direct combat, but it's potentially much more important overall.
 
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So, lest this be lost to the annals of discord, we gave it some thought, and figured out a way to make Akane safer on missions:

Encourage short duration missions during which she can use Noburi's water to produce Shadow Clones. They last twelve hours, and his water lasts about 4 in a canteen, so it more or less lets her have a large amount of shadow clones accompanying her on missions. They wouldn't have much chakra, but if they had enough for a substitution or two, they could help out that way, or with creating environmental aspects whose tags they can pass on.

(Incidentally, they could also wear the reactive armor Kagome has made; any stress blows them up any way, so it doesn't hurt for them to blow up enemies too.)

Arguably most importantly: This makes Resolve a combat-relevant stat for her, in allowing her to put our more clones to accompany her on her missions, meaning it will increase her survivability.

Cons of this include how opsec-safe such a t hing is, and how it may expose FOOM. The latter can be ameliorated by declaring that particular use of Noburi's water a clan secret, and implying that the reason that Akane is more effective in short-term missions is a technique she got from the dogs.
 
Edit 4: The lawful-good use of this scheme is to tell all of that to Asuma and suggest sending us on a diplomatic mission to Mist/Sand/%insert minor village%. He could give us special dispensation to make binding agreements on Leaf's behalf, and we could use it to dupe everyone and funnel all their secrets to Leaf. This sounds like an immensely interesting arc, too. (Or, we don't even have to tell Asuma about TLitF, just claim we have a clan-secret way to do that.)
Duping someone into sharing information in exchange for some commitment, then erasing their memory of that entire meeting (could even be used on people we don't want to alienate, e. g. Leaf ninja!).
Damn, now I want to encourage Mari to embark on an extended campaign in which we steal the secrets of everyone in Leaf. It's basically a perfect crime. Invite a ninja for a meeting, covertly cast TLitF. Propose clan secret exchange, invent some reason why the trade needs to happen now. Hand our secret over first to demonstrate goodwill. As long as they don't know about TLitF there'd be no reason to suspect foul play, so they should agree. Once we have the secret, erase their memory of the exchange and go on to strike some more boring business deal as cover.

As long as we're not targeting someone who can no-sell Mari's genjutsu with sheer CR, we'd be unstoppable. If the mark notices Mari casting TLitF, we just activate it immediately, dumping their short-term memory, their seeing the jutsu cast included. If they somehow notice the genjutsu (how? we wouldn't be exactly moving around, all Mari needs to do is get a static room with three people in it right), and try to break out, activate it immediately. If they don't agree to conduct the exchange, wipe them and start over. The whole thing shouldn't take more than 20 minutes and medieval clocks aren't very precise, so they shouldn't notice the time discrepancy and we could engage them in activities in which they'd naturally lose track of time afterwards to further mitigate it. TLitF is pretty unbelievable on priors anyway, so external observers somehow figuring everything out from random circumstantial evidence seems implausible.

It's bulletproof!

Except we wouldn't be able to publicly use any of that stuff afterwards, bah. Unless we invent some bullshit "we found this in Jiraiya's stash/a Summon gave it all to us out of nowhere, we didn't know those were your clan secrets, wow awkward!" excuse, but that seems flimsy.

Edit: We still could use it to get blackmail on everyone, though! Let's do it.
Edit 2: Oh, and we can certainly relieve Sasuke of all his foreign ninjutsu, since we could plausibly have stolen it from elsewhere.
Edit 3: And the secret seals of all of those sealmasters! Those we can certainly plausibly claim came from Jiraiya's stash, and if instead of using them directly we tweak them slightly so the object-level effect is unrecognizable, no-one will know at all.
 
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Feel like the Yamaka might be a problem in using TLitF on everyone. Though generally on board with this plan. Also we should make sure Mari starts to FOOM when we discuss this
 
Feel like the Yamaka might be a problem in using TLitF on everyone. Though generally on board with this plan. Also we should make sure Mari starts to FOOM when we discuss this
It seems to me that TLitF should be operating on a more fundamental level than the Yamanaka jutsu. It successfully trumped Oro's cannibal seal and/or the Shadow Clones' merge function. I think doesn't edit, it straight-up overwrites the target's mind with a snapshot taken at activation time.

I'd still be wary of targeting the Yamanaka themselves with it (or, for that matter, the Nara), but it seems unlikely that a Yamanaka would be able to detect anything obviously wrong with our other victims. And even if they could detect something, probably only if they take a close look at the victim's memories surrounding their visit to us, and for things to get that far, we'd need to have already given the game away somehow.
 
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We can share the idea by asking Mari to have one of her clones use TLITF on us. If she agrees, then she can remove the fact that we did it from our mind.
 
Mari can only remove memories of events after TLitF starts. You can remove the memory of telling her the idea, but not of having it.
After it starts and a few seconds before. Basically, she can make someone forget they saw her cast TLitF as well as what happens after. But yes, that won't be enough to wipe the memory of having the idea.
 
After it starts and a few seconds before. Basically, she can make someone forget they saw her cast TLitF as well as what happens after. But yes, that won't be enough to wipe the memory of having the idea.
HAZŌ: Hey, Mari, this is really important. I need you to remove an idea from my brain after I tell you it. Use whatever means necessary.

...

NOBURI: Uh, Hazō? Are you aware you have a whole lot of bumps on your head?

HAZŌ: Huh. I dun' remam- rebamb- know where I got those. Also, I no can speak so good now.

MARI: And they told me I was bad at improvising.
 
just 4 days, we really should start laying the groundwork for the Scroll Hunt

Send Kei/Akane/Mari first, they scout and find all the information we need.

Then depending what they find:
  • Hazou and dogs can come and help
  • Noburi and Hazou can go and help
  • We tell Asuma that Grandmaster F is there being a hedonist, how about we Zoo Rush her?
Just tell Kei to keep it together and hope that Akane can keep them from more drama.

Technically Kei isn't needed, but Panashe is just broken and I don't want to send Akane, Hazou and Mari out of the village at the same time.

Mari tricked Orochimaru, she can absolutely trick most Cloud ninja into believing that she is one of them. Or the local Yakuza Boss.

And we have the ability to communicate whatever we need back to Leaf. This all could be done in 1-2 Updates.
 
After it starts and a few seconds before. Basically, she can make someone forget they saw her cast TLitF as well as what happens after. But yes, that won't be enough to wipe the memory of having the idea.
But what if Hazou asks Mari to cast TLitF basically the very moment the idea he wants to erase occurs to him? Would the time needed to shout "Mari, TLitF!" tip it over the edge of these "few seconds"?
 
I wonder how close we are to ending the war anyways... Cloud seems to have dipped for the moment, but they may be taking time to ally with Rock or something. Rock has been exchanging blows with Leaf for a few months now and we've both lost a bunch of ninja. Now Mist has joined with Leaf which makes Leaf an even less enticing target than it was already.
 
Why was he not comfortable doing that? Is there any chance that his unwillingness was seriously warranted and that his own exhaustion plus the hivemind imperative are pressuring into something seriously unwise?
He felt as though it would be shorting them / failing at his responsibilities. Whether trying it would be unwise...HDK.

And we have the ability to communicate whatever we need back to Leaf. This all could be done in 1-2 Updates.
I very much doubt it would be that fast, but it could certainly be short. The reason the Arachnid Scroll acquisition seemed so quick was because all the legwork was done in advance -- you convinced Asuma to scout the area, you convinced people that Zoo Rush was worth trying, etc.
 
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