Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Emstar
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Heres the final total, its got everything summed up nice and neat with supporting quotes! (ty @faflec) (I am a fucking l33t wizard ma dude)
Also Ren is a memelord.
Heres the final total, its got everything summed up nice and neat with supporting quotes! (ty @faflec) (I am a fucking l33t wizard ma dude)
Also Ren is a memelord.
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*pffffff*@eaglejarl
Heres the final total, its got everything summed up nice and neat with supporting quotes! (ty @faflec) (I am a fucking wizard )
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I dunno. Personally I'd rather win the First Event as well since "Team Goketsu got first in the Third and Fifth Event, and got last in the Fourth Event" is less ammunition than "Team Goketsu got first in the First, Third, and Fifth Event, and got last in the Fourth Event".
Emstar
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Nope.
We're just keeping 1/2 because we're paranoid like that.
We would still win the first event. Nobody wlse has this large of a pile of these
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Ammunition for... who? Proctors? Kages? Leaf clans? Other contestants? Random civilians? First three will know exactly what happened: we crushed everyone, dominated the Fif— fuck it— E5 and E1 in one fell swoop, then gave half of our word-halves to our compatriots. Latter won't know about such technicalities anyway; they'll maybe know that we punched everyone in E5, and also the outcome of the tournament.
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Ammunition for Jiraiya, both domestically and internationally. It's a small up in our reputation relative to everything else, yes, but it's still a non-zero benefit.
Noumero
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I disagree. Holding onto some abstract points that we didn't need anyway vs. helping a fellow Leaf team reach the tournament? I think the latter is more politically advantageous.
Emstar
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Also trouncing them in the tourny is miles more embarassing because it answers on an international stage: "Hey could these clan heirs beat the Hyuga heiress?" With "Literally like fighting a small child."
This would be great for J.
Being nice to them is also great for our personal relationships. Theyll never figure out our true plan! Bwa ha ha.
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I am, ah, not completely convinced we have the word-halves needed to get Kurenai's score high enough to make the tournament.
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Thing is, do we think there won't be a vote during the one month period as to who gets to be the new Hokage? We did quite a bit to help Jiraiya so I am not saying it will not be him going back to Mist in a month but I do think that the tournament result itself might not actually factor into the vote itself.
Reasoning: The three month period of Jiraiya being the interim Kage are over and the month long break should be enough of an excuse for Hiashi to call in a vote for the "real" Hokage.
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Hazo (to Jiraiya): Sir, respectfully request permission to donate several word-halves to Hinata, Kiba, and Shino so they can make the tournament.
Jiraiya: Oh? And why would I want that?
Hazō: Sir, an additional 3 Leaf in the tournament would increase Leaf prestige. Additionally, Hinata has been faithful in dealings throughout the tournament, and I'd, I mean we'd want to extend an olive branch to her, despite the Hyūga's general enmity.
Jiraiya (eyebrow raised and smug grin forming): So you want this do you?
Jiraiya puts on a show of thinking it over.
Jiraiya: Oh yes. I remember in Keiko's last report. I can tell you want another chance to test the strength of your body against that "team's" prodigious assets.
Tears of pride forming.
Jiraiya: I approve.
Jiraiya: Oh? And why would I want that?
Hazō: Sir, an additional 3 Leaf in the tournament would increase Leaf prestige. Additionally, Hinata has been faithful in dealings throughout the tournament, and I'd, I mean we'd want to extend an olive branch to her, despite the Hyūga's general enmity.
Jiraiya (eyebrow raised and smug grin forming): So you want this do you?
Jiraiya puts on a show of thinking it over.
Jiraiya: Oh yes. I remember in Keiko's last report. I can tell you want another chance to test the strength of your body against that "team's" prodigious assets.
Tears of pride forming.
Jiraiya: I approve.
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Noumero
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But there are no real alternatives. Unless the alliance negotiations go south (which evidently isn't happening), the Hyuuga are doomed:
- Their Neji had an enormous accident.
- Their Hinata either barely made it into the tournament, or made it only with the Gouketsu's help, or didn't make it at all.
- The Gouketsu utterly dominated the Exams, contrary to Hiashi's statements.
- Jiraiya somehow got ridiculously good trade agreements.
It's the thought that counts.
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@MMKII, @eaglejarl, I think nobody considers one detail... all we know about event 1 is that losing your word half disqualifies you. Points for enemy halves are speculation, though likely.
So, we need to give team Kurenai their own word halves back, else they lose event 1 and can't gain points for it.
On the other hand, every team whose word halves we stole loses points for event 1, probably in the order of -100 points. That estimate is based on round 2 being worth around that much, the GM's could have set it higher (later events were around 300 points, after all).
That pushes all non-Leaf teams (except R1 and ISC's Blue teammates) down considerably, helping team Kurenai.
So, we need to give team Kurenai their own word halves back, else they lose event 1 and can't gain points for it.
On the other hand, every team whose word halves we stole loses points for event 1, probably in the order of -100 points. That estimate is based on round 2 being worth around that much, the GM's could have set it higher (later events were around 300 points, after all).
That pushes all non-Leaf teams (except R1 and ISC's Blue teammates) down considerably, helping team Kurenai.
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Hatake Kakashi, Senju Tsunade, Might Guy...
...well, you're not wrong
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This is a good point. @MMKII I would recommend that we give Team Kurenai their word-halves back at the least.
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If the QMs are to head our arguments regarding "we should have about ~100 of rhese actually in all likelihood" then 1/4 should suffice to boost them each by aboit 70.
I think this is more than sufficient.
At worst they can kill Kiba.
@Nachtigall thanks for pointing that possibility out
If the QMs are to head our arguments regarding "we should have about ~100 of rhese actually in all likelihood" then 1/4 should suffice to boost them each by aboit 70.
I think this is more than sufficient.
At worst they can kill Kiba.
If thats a factor then this will certainly do the trick with the 1/4, 50 word halves at our disposal or more.
@Nachtigall thanks for pointing that possibility out
As far as I am aware, there was never an official statement that word halves were worth points, nor if they are, how many points each word half might be worth. Did I miss it?
On the other hand, Jiraiya failed in his promise to track down and retrieve Naruto, which was half of his justification for being Hokage.
And Hiashi could ask with a straight face why exactly the relative performance of a bunch of kids in the Exams should affect anyone's vote for the position of Hokage. Well? He's not proposing any of them should be Hokage.
Which just leaves good trade agreements.
On the other hand, Jiraiya failed in his promise to track down and retrieve Naruto, which was half of his justification for being Hokage.
And Hiashi could ask with a straight face why exactly the relative performance of a bunch of kids in the Exams should affect anyone's vote for the position of Hokage. Well? He's not proposing any of them should be Hokage.
Which just leaves good trade agreements.
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From the same Interlude:
I read that as Mari saying "Wait until Jiraiya is back from Mist, then we can decide whether we need a different Hokage or if he can stay as proper Hokage" and for that there would, presumably, be a new vote instead of a Yes/No decision to keep Jiraiya.
I also think Hiashi is out of the running but I have to wonder about why the Raikage thought that once Jiraiya's time as interim Hokage runs out naturally that it would be a Nara in his place. That and when Mari mentioned she had to stay in Konoha to make sure Jiraiya doesn't become a Nara puppet.
Both those things indicate that people think Shikaku wants the hat so what makes you certain that he wouldn't take it if given the opportunity?
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We...shouldn't. We got 1 after the Swamp Event and 66 between us and ISC, assuming we took everyone else's word-halves. 67 total. IDK.
Fair point, I was focused on the impression from the other clans.
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Nara was the first candidate nominated in the referenced vote update, which he immediately declined.