Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I don't see how this isn't setting up a meat grinder still.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
So here's my thought:
Our priority is to eliminate the other top ninja. Not necessarily the top teams.
What this means is that I think our ambushes should be absolutely ludicrous alpha strikes followed up by a quick retreat through a minefield we drop behind us thanks to our fuckhueg explosives reserves; the proctors are not going to always be on the ball enough to keep our initial attack from going through and Incapacitating or dealing Consequences out to any group of Ninja; I'd feel confident that this approach could gank one or two of the major Hidden Village ninja per Village without requiring us to get into a furball where we might get hurt and maintain force concentration.
Our priority is to eliminate the other top ninja. Not necessarily the top teams.
What this means is that I think our ambushes should be absolutely ludicrous alpha strikes followed up by a quick retreat through a minefield we drop behind us thanks to our fuckhueg explosives reserves; the proctors are not going to always be on the ball enough to keep our initial attack from going through and Incapacitating or dealing Consequences out to any group of Ninja; I'd feel confident that this approach could gank one or two of the major Hidden Village ninja per Village without requiring us to get into a furball where we might get hurt and maintain force concentration.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Not viable.
- Location
- Yes.
Not a terrible idea but the proctors will very likely find out it was and have us DQ'd after the fact.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Y'know what, fuckit.
[X] Action Plan: Let it go, reprisal
Preparations:
Have fun, eaglejarl.
e: This isn't a joke vote.
[X] Action Plan: Let it go, reprisal
Preparations:
- Get gaseous poison attacks (from Yakuza, apothecaries, etc. with use of macerators), prepare cloth-mouth coverings with whatever mix of Tunneler's Friend and Usamatsu's Glorious Life-Preserving Purifiers
- Prepare loads of explosives.
- Other stuff sure whatever
- Feel free to use banshees, banshee fuckers (when safe), fire-log macerators to deoxygenate the environment. Bit late to be worried about OPSEC.
Have fun, eaglejarl.
e: This isn't a joke vote.
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Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
But actually setting up some covert poison/sedative shit is a viable option.
- Location
- Yes.
Word count: 143
[X] Action Plan: Definitely Not PETA
[X] Action Plan: Definitely Not PETA
- Suggest ambush plan to STL.
- Try persuading them to join.
- Summon Panashe. Pay other Leaf-nin to replenish chakra.
- Stealthily leave barracks for ambush site.
- Find ideal ambush spot between Kiri/Event location (chokepoint, tunnelable, watery?).
- Consider using traps to strengthen chokepoint.
- Tunneling Excavation for entrenchment: Hide in if low Stealth.
- Trap/secure trench.
- High-Alertness individuals [Panashe]: Alert entrenched individuals of incoming contestants.
- STL sleeps (in shifts). Awaken well-rested before Event/for Ambush.
- Ambush:
- Targets: Managable groups (<6); then prioritize top teams.
- Summoning: Pankurashun, Pangaya, Pandojuru, Panchipāma, Panjandrum.
- Don't overspend chakra; summon only what's necessary for clean victory.
- Blitz in, incapacitate, KO.
- Use: Goo Bombs, Earbusters, [nonlethal] Explosives.
- Loot ½-words, chakra. Hide bodies in tunnel. Recover, repeat.
- Discuss Event tactics: Give Keiko plan schema
- Standard offensive/defensive plans.
- How to handle Gōketsu vs. Gōketsu fights.
- Contingencies:
- STL shuts down ambush plan: Don't do it.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Yes. But I'm happy to leave that to eaglejarl.
- Location
- Under a Rock
[]Proto plan:Glorious Coalition.
Offer an ambush alliance to all the teams from minor villages that are barely hanging on. They can trust us because they are desperate and we announce the alliance membership in a public, impossible to deny way. The reputation hit we would get from betraying them is worth more than the exams. We ambush top non leaf teams, and split chakra and word halves afterward. Seals can be bought via chakra.
Offer an ambush alliance to all the teams from minor villages that are barely hanging on. They can trust us because they are desperate and we announce the alliance membership in a public, impossible to deny way. The reputation hit we would get from betraying them is worth more than the exams. We ambush top non leaf teams, and split chakra and word halves afterward. Seals can be bought via chakra.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Please do me the courtesy of finishing reading my sentence before dismissing the idea; in this case, the idea is to force the other teams to go a roundabout route to dodge the explosives we're dropping at our feet (in Game-Speak, needing to go through several adjacent Zones rather than the Zone where we just were and the live explosives are now).
While true, consider that team ups guarding each other to the event is not exactly in the spirit of the rules either, so so long as the Village we target is someone Mist also already dislikes and probably won't politically disadvantage us, we won't get too much flak for ganking someone in their group, especially if it's unclear who did it (if they can believe on-scene it might've been Mist than we're clear)
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Fuck Team Downfall might plan to do something and then pin the blame on us and so long as it's ambiguous we're fucked.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I did read the rest, I highlighted the point of contention.
If someone fails a dice roll and actually gets mulched by said minefield then we autofail this entire arc, more or less. We're the only ninja with the capabilities to set this up, so dodging blame is out of the question.
Any ambush where explosions play a critical part of the strategy aren't really viable.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Anything less than C-class cannot kill people by themselves. That's the whole point of creating weaker explosive tags; you can have the whole "AoE damaging attack" without the "instant death or maiming" threat.
- Location
- Potato land
All of these plans feel like giving up, in different ways. A vote for Default is basically "I don't know what to do, screw this", while the ambush plans are just blindly lashing out. I get it, I'm feeling kind of helpless right now as well, but let's try to come up with a course of action with a chance of actually helping.
I feel like a table flip outside of the event itself would need to be massive to make any real difference. Like, stop most of the candidates from leaving the barracks, massive. In principle, we could trap the site with some kind of knockout gas or other incapacitating agent, but the proctors would just suspend the event, probably, and with random assignments it'd be hard to control.
Let's think about the event, itself. Random squads of 9 from different villages sounds like a coordination nightmare, first and foremost. They'll need to decide on a plan of action and some field leadership structure in an environment of no trust. I kind of expect close to half of every squad to just do their own thing, so the better organized one should win every time. Maybe this is supposed to be a stealth leadership test? In that case, it would be a good idea to use our remaining time to touch base with other candidates, and try to make a good, reasonable impression, at least.
Don't have much more insight I'm afraid; I'm suffering from an ear infection, and thinking is a bit slow at the moment.
I feel like a table flip outside of the event itself would need to be massive to make any real difference. Like, stop most of the candidates from leaving the barracks, massive. In principle, we could trap the site with some kind of knockout gas or other incapacitating agent, but the proctors would just suspend the event, probably, and with random assignments it'd be hard to control.
Let's think about the event, itself. Random squads of 9 from different villages sounds like a coordination nightmare, first and foremost. They'll need to decide on a plan of action and some field leadership structure in an environment of no trust. I kind of expect close to half of every squad to just do their own thing, so the better organized one should win every time. Maybe this is supposed to be a stealth leadership test? In that case, it would be a good idea to use our remaining time to touch base with other candidates, and try to make a good, reasonable impression, at least.
Don't have much more insight I'm afraid; I'm suffering from an ear infection, and thinking is a bit slow at the moment.
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
@faflec, @Oneiros, I'm pretty sure some teams would think about the ambush strategy, and so won't approach the event from the obvious Mist —> Site direction. We need to somehow patrol all possible approaches to the event location, and be prepared to rapidly respond to incomings, if we want to massively win. Alternatively, we need to make all enemy ninja go towards the event in a straight line.
One possibility for scouting is to abuse pangolin telepathy. Summon a bunch of low-chakra pangolins, set them in a very large circle around the event location; they report to one of the pangolins who stays with us. Is that viable?
Alternatively, we could burn the whole forest down.
One possibility for scouting is to abuse pangolin telepathy. Summon a bunch of low-chakra pangolins, set them in a very large circle around the event location; they report to one of the pangolins who stays with us. Is that viable?
Alternatively, we could burn the whole forest down.
- Location
- [REDACTED]
[x] Proto plan:Glorious Coalition.
I agree, getting the minor villages on our side is probably one of the best things we can do. Even if it is as simple as reaching some sort of minor detente or non-aggression pact instead of an actual alliance. Someone mentioned we should talk to Jirya in order to see if there are any minor diplomatic concessions we can offer. Trading of seals is smart, I'm really not sure about pulling off ambushes so I'm really not confident it's a good idea to trade seals for chakara. Information, on the other hand, is probably a really good trade to make.
I agree, getting the minor villages on our side is probably one of the best things we can do. Even if it is as simple as reaching some sort of minor detente or non-aggression pact instead of an actual alliance. Someone mentioned we should talk to Jirya in order to see if there are any minor diplomatic concessions we can offer. Trading of seals is smart, I'm really not sure about pulling off ambushes so I'm really not confident it's a good idea to trade seals for chakara. Information, on the other hand, is probably a really good trade to make.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Good idea. See next post.
You are, yes. I'll raise the thresholds a bit though:
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- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Changed from ambush to 3 strike teams
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Changed my plan to a variant of this. Use 3 individual strike teams with pangolin support
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
We could possibly spend FP on it being a ludicrously stormy day, giving Noburi enough water on the ground to drain anyone touching it dry.
- Location
- [REDACTED]
Too much a chance for that to turn into a 2v1, 3v1, or worse. We don't want Keiko vulnerable to counter ambushes. I can not imagine teams from any other villages forming any sort super team. So as long as our strike teams have groups of 3+ we should be relatively safe. We can pick off groups of 1-2, and the most likely worse case scenario is we'll find ourselves evenly matched.