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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Alright, let's talk scoring.

The max possible score we could get is 325, but given that assumes we get the documents (as Red side) within the first hour this is rather unlikely. I will assume that, assuming blue/red side are meant to get the same score, that Red team is expected to get the documents within ~9hr or something similar. Which gets us ~280 points if we win both times.

I will observe that, barring absurdly unlikely scenarios, that we'll be up against Teams Asuma and Kurenai during separate phases of the Event, and we won't get faced up against other top teams. One of Mist's goals is to fuck us over (read: fuck Team Goketsu over) which can be easily accomplished by them slotting the other high-scoring teams together against rank nobodies and thus easily getting them a fuckton of points while we get screwed completely.

Of course, if Mist wants to give us a chance (an unfair chance, but not an insurmountable chance), they would still do the above, only also slot top teams against us (alongside the Leaf team that faces us) while we get nobodies. Which means that if we win we cripple the top teams' scoring, but it'll be harder to "win" the event.
 
I'm on board with tunneling and flooding sabotage and in general turning the region between the towers and the proctor HQ into a no mans land.

We would need a large amount of water for any type of flooding thing though. We could fill up the rest of our storage seals with water and I don't think that'd be enough.
 
eaglejarl said:
Therefore, blue team is not allowed to destroy the key to the lockbox, take the documents out of the lockbox, take either one out of the building (this includes to the Seventh Path), inter them in massive slabs of rock, bury them in the ground, or otherwise render them inaccessible to ninja who would be working in the facility.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail What happens if the building is destroyed? Does Blue team get massive point penalties by default, since the key/documents are technically no longer inside the building?
 
Alright, now that we have the event info we can plan for it, but we should be careful not to let that influence our pre-event plans, because metagaming is bad.

So, as I understood things, we were planning mainly to spend our time trying to ambush and eliminate some of the remaining contestants. We also had the educated guesses that the lockboxes are relevant and that team play is relevant, but not specific enough to do anything beyond the most obvious like trying to snag a lockbox and bring it along with us in case it's relevant. On that note, do we have any XL storage seals? I know 100 kg is the default, with good reasons, but if we have a 200 kg storage seal then if we wanted to snag a lockbox we probably could.
 
eaglejarl said:
they must leave the documents reasonably accessible and the building sufficiently easy to move around in that it would be usable for a daily office routine. Therefore, blue team is not allowed to destroy the key to the lockbox, take the documents out of the lockbox, take either one out of the building (this includes to the Seventh Path), inter them in massive slabs of rock, bury them in the ground, or otherwise render them inaccessible to ninja who would be working in the facility. Blue team can move the items to some random part of the building, create decoys, add traps to the lockbox, and/or have one of the team carry the key on their person. Failure to abide by these rules costs you all your positive points for the round and a -1,000 point penalty.
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I will note that all of these circumstances refer to making the documents accessible within the building, not making the building itself accessible. That is to say, the documents cannot be interred in stone or transferred to the Seventh Path, but the building itself could be. :p
 
So the fact that Moderate consequences are encouraged is an indication this really is the last Event.

They no longer care about keeping the losers in good shape; they can go home and lick their wounds.
 
18scsc said:
If force walls have are absurdly sharp enough we could simply push a safe into one in order to cut it open.
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The unfortunate issue is that Force Walls require several meters which the room may not be able to fit. Also there's the non-trivial risk of severely damaging the documents, which technically doesn't forfeit the 75 points but proctors could rule against it.
KaGoGoGadgetMe said:
I will note that all of these circumstances refer to making the documents accessible within the building, not making the building itself accessible. That is to say, the documents cannot be interred in stone or transferred to the Seventh Path, but the building itself could be. :p
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Funny image aside, as Blue Team we have to simulate a normal T&I facility which means it has to be accessible to its members. We don't all have access to the Seventh Path.
 
faflec said:
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail What happens if the building is destroyed? Does Blue team get massive point penalties by default, since the key/documents are technically no longer inside the building?
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Inferno Vulpix said:
On that note, do we have any XL storage seals?
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You do not.

KaGoGoGadgetMe said:
I will note that all of these circumstances refer to making the documents accessible within the building, not making the building itself accessible. That is to say, the documents cannot be interred in stone or transferred to the Seventh Path, but the building itself could be. :p
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You should absolutely make use of this lawyerly reading of the rules. I see no way in which it could horrifically backfire upon you. :p
 
eaglejarl said:
  • 50 points if the target documents are inside the facility (i.e., the building), undamaged, and accessible when time runs out.
  • -75 points if the red team successfully turns in their documents before time runs out (Note that it's possible to score neither the +50 nor the -75).
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To me this implies we could rig our safe to blow up. The only way neither the +50 or -75 could occur is the destruction of the documents or if they end up in the no man's land, neither in the building nor turned in, but simply sitting around outside somewhere.

Defense team idea: Fill the safe with a bunch of storage seals in the safe. One will have the papers, the rest will be full of primed training tags set to go off moments after being pulled from the storage seal.

EDIT: Apparently seals can't be put in storage seals. That's fine. Instead of training tags fill the decoy seals with boiling water.
 
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Reminder - eaglejarl said that he can see two ways that we might win this to get into the tournament. One is eliminating as much of the competition as possible. Now that we have the rules, what do people think the second is?

eaglejarl said:
Existing squads will be kept together as much as possible.
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eaglejarl said:
Squads will be reshuffled so that no one is working with the same people as before or at the same facility as before.
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How does this work? They seem mutually exclusive. An existing squad can't be kept together for the second round, because they've all worked together before.
 
So Keiko casts Summon: All Available Pangolins and her team of half a dozen or so warriors aide us in setting up defensive traps around the towers grounds as well as in beating the opposition to a pulp.


Noburi will have to drain them to Moderate and replenish her chakra consistently.
 
18scsc said:
To me this implies we could rig our safe to blow up. The only way neither the +50 or -75 could occur is the destruction of the documents or if they end up in the no man's land, neither in the building nor turned in, but simply sitting around outside somewhere.

Defense team idea: Fill the safe with a bunch of storage seals in the safe. One will have the papers, the rest will be full of primed training tags set to go off moments after being pulled from the storage seal.
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You can't put seals in a storage seal, but good line of thinking.
 
Make 5sb like crazy. All the walls and doors. For the doors, a ninja is stationed to lower and raise the seal in response to a secret code.
 
Enjou said:
How does this work? They seem mutually exclusive. An existing squad can't be kept together for the second round, because they've all worked together before.
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The intent is that Team Uplift will work with squads A and B for one half of the event, then C and D for the second half.
faflec said:
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Are we allowed to put the documents in a storage scroll?
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There's nothing in the rules that explicitly forbids it.
 
Enjou said:
How does this work? They seem mutually exclusive. An existing squad can't be kept together for the second round, because they've all worked together before.
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If you had, say, two Sand-nin who were the only ones of their teams that made it through to this point, the proctors would not put them together. If you had two Sand-nin who were on the same team and both made it through, the proctors would put them together.

faflec said:
Wait a minute. What's stopping Hinata from simply copying the documents down and leaving?
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Probably the same way they make the word halves non-copyable, some calligraphy written in a unique ink or something.
 
faflec said:
Wait a minute. What's stopping Hinata from simply copying the documents down and leaving?

@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Are we allowed to put the documents in a storage scroll?
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I don't see why that wouldn't be allowed. Taking documents in and out of a storage seal is well within the capacity of your regular ninja office worker and could be argued to be a sensible precaution in a world where Hyuuga eyes exist.
 
eaglejarl said:
In each round, red teams are not allowed to assault for the first 2 hours; they will be held at the proctor stations during that time. This is to allow the blue team to familiarize themselves with the location and set up whatever defenses or patrols they like and for the red teams to familiarize themselves with each other's capabilities and plan / practice team tactics. (Obviously, blue team may continue adding defenses after that 2 hour grace period.)
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...there's nothing stopping the Blue team from assaulting the Red team in the first two hours. And since Red teams aren't allowed to assault, we have the advantage!
 
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