Honestly, I say we start work on a seal or rune that utterly erases all scent within its radius
We know of a jutsu that contains scents/bodily odors and then dumps them in one mega-concentrated spot.

We could make a modified/mobile air dome that thickens the air around Hazou into a fragile shell-like construct (1 stress box, if that) that contains particulates for a certain duration. Then we can use a Glorious Purifier to seal away the concentrated air within the dime.
 
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1. Improve rocket seal to try to get maximum impulse before it stops working (bigger bang, longer duration, reusable, etc). Try to get a small crossbow bolt like projectile with 2 in diameter and about 6 in long to go as fast and straight as possible (feathers like arrow, try different material/seal combos).
2. Put 100 kg cylindrical paper bags filled with lead balls in storage seals.
3. Place 10 filled storage seals on projectile with trigger/timer. Add one rocket seal. Bonus if storage seals can be activated by the rocket activating.
4. Place in launch tube.
5. Hand out to clones + cheap summons before big fight.
 
The plan called to have Canvass sniff you over as you left the city, to make sure no trackers were on you. She smelled something weird on you that freaked her out, but it was faint. Probably a secondary contact, she thought. (i.e. it got on someone else, you interacted with that person enough to get some of it on you.)
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@Inferno Vulpix can I count this chicken now?
Very much so, yes. I'm extremely happy that Noburi managed to get the best of both worlds here.
So, it's time to research. I'm fully in favor of finishing the seals we've already made progress researching, but after that we really need a research program that will eventually result in an essie-killing weapon. I've heard some candidates already—@Twinnstars' sekiyuu, IIRC @Inferno Vulpix had a plan to convince Hazō to investigate the EM spectrum with light shift seals (which would allow us to eventually produce gamma rays), and I had an idea for accelerator seals (that accelerate objects moving past them) that can be chained together to form a railgun. What else have we got?
Honestly I think we still need to hear back from Paper about how the last research cycle on Light Shift seals went. There was a miscommunication and they thought Hazou was researching something entirely different, so the matter needs to be reviewed again before we know how the last cycle turned out.
 
How soon can we get started on motherfuckin hyperbolic time chamber runes? Because I think that should be our priority, in the near term.
 
For those who are worrying about that scent, consider; Orochimaru. We've been in his lair recently, right?
 
Think we should wait on Fast Forward Runes. Better to research a few more baby runes and level PS a little more first. Afraid of a rune failure. Suggested easy runes, HOWS and Runic Drag. This gives Hazō's safety estimates better calibration. Otherwise, not confident in our rune difficulty checks.
We're no more likely to fail on them than on anything else that we get the same "well within his capacity" response on.
 
Suddenly very alarmed.

Okay so like, this is the kind of thing that we're going to forget about for 100 chapters if we don't address it right now. Honestly, I say we start work on a seal or rune that utterly erases all scent within its radius, so no matter how subtle the tracker we can always cleanse ourselves of it.
For those who are worrying about that scent, consider; Orochimaru. We've been in his lair recently, right?
Except it's a secondary source on Hazō. Someone he touched was touched by the gross. If it was oro, it'd be primary.

I think it's Ino.

Ino would mean at least secondary for shika, third for kei, and the amount of time kei spends with the isc...

The out of context problem. That chapter is heartbreaking.
 
Oh, and if we deploy EM nuke runes, we definitely need to make sure people don't figure out the same effect is achievable with a jutsu. So what's the cover story? I guess we could claim the first EM nuke was a sealing failure and then we used runes to recreate it, but you definitely can't do that without runes pinkie promise. But IIRC people generally aren't able to use sealing to recreate sealing failures, so I don't know if that story would hold up. We could ask Kei what she thinks, I guess.
Could claim that we invented runecrafting sooner than we actually did, first EM nuke was a rune which didn't actually fail, just wildly exceeded expectations and (unlike explosives) lacked a viable downscaled variant. Doom of Isan was a copy of it, which must logically have been built either by Akatsuki, or some yet-unknown and appallingly powerful outside group. Even if Hazo weren't immediately put under strict orders not to do that sort of thing again, short of another Battle of the Gods, why in the hell would Leaf use such a weapon against Isan of all places, which was on track to be one of their closest allies? As opposed to, say, getting revenge for the Collapse.
Reference Itachi's potential to have analyzed the prototype after it shut down via cheaty eyeballs, vaguely allude to Konan and/or Deidara possibly being able to use variations on their widely-known signature techniques to build a duplicate without knowing the whole underlying theory, if they had a sufficiently precise description, ideal astrological conditions (surely wasn't a coincidence it happened on the coldest day of the year), and weeks of on-site prep.
 
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Once she had the dust in hand, Mari melted it into ingots and then went to Naruto and said "hey, yo, mah dude, take this vig and then mint the rest of it into coins for us." Naruto said "why are you talking like that? Also, fine, happy to do it, but I'm not going to have you destroying Leaf's economy. You can have all the coins that I mint but we'll need to set some rules about how much of it you use in Fire and the rest will have to be dumped on someone else's economy."

Rock Village Quest Negaverse: What? how? It should not be possible for Leaf to gather that much gold and dump it on our economy!
Naruto Quest: So this is what Hokage Asuma was talking about.....
Leaf Quest: Finally, another Hazo wildcard. Can we get a natural 20 next time?
 
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We're no more likely to fail on them than on anything else that we get the same "well within his capacity" response on.
"Well within his capacity" runes are safer to research if the effect is simple, if the effect is based on a known low difficulty seal or if the effect is a small change to an already known rune.
Recently, players voted in a number of difficulty checks on runes. As this is a completely new field, we're not going to provide accurate, well-bounded answers on how hard runes are to make in the same way we do with seals. Instead, we're going to treat things at the narrative level until Hazou has substantially more experience in the field. Without any claim about how these results corresponds to numbers (if they do at all), nor any claim about how likely they are to be accurate or inaccurate, the three possibilities for a rune difficulty check are:
  • "Hazou thinks this rune is well within his capabilities."
  • "Hazou thinks he could maybe do this rune."
  • "Hazou thinks this rune is beyond his capabilities."
This does not fill me with confidence. We have only researched one rune. Would feel better if we did a prep day on a Fast Forward Seal that returned difficulty below Jiraiya.
 
"Well within his capacity" runes are safer to research if the effect is simple, if the effect is based on a known low difficulty seal or if the effect is a small change to an already known rune.

This does not fill me with confidence. We have only researched one rune. Would feel better if we did a prep day on a Fast Forward Seal that returned difficulty below Jiraiya.
But... seals have no relevance to runecraft? Generally speaking veterancy on one does not apply to the other.

e: Also sealing is a discipline with significantly different things that are difficult and different low hanging fruits.
 
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But... seals have no relevance to runecraft? Generally speaking veterancy on one does not apply to the other.
Brain not braining. For preventing runic failures, feels safer to explore known boundaries? If we can walk somewhere we can fly there.
At sufficient levels of skill and power the Earthshaping jutsu can create 'sculptures' that are suitable for use as 3D seal blanks. These blanks can then be infused to convert them into actual seals. Sealing using 3D blanks has a great deal in common with regular paper-and-ink sealing but also some important differences.

First, 3D seals have a lot more 'room', physical and metaphysical, to work with, meaning that the 3D version of a seal will be significantly more powerful than its 2D counterpart. Depending on what exactly the seal does this might manifest in various ways -- 3D explosives can be an order of magnitude more powerful for the same effort (i.e. infusion TN) or as powerful with a lower TN. Detection seals will usually have a longer range and/or higher sensitivity for the same effort. Construct seals (e.g. Air Dome) will be stronger and/or have a larger area for the same effort. Some effects that require an array of 2D seal elements (the category to which Lesser Barrier Formation and Five Seal Barrier belong) can be accomplished with a single 3D seal. In some cases a 2D seal that requires physical contact can be replaced with a 3D seal that operates from a distance.
 
Brain not braining. For preventing runic failures, feels safer to explore known boundaries? If we can walk somewhere we can fly there.
Right, that quote you linked is why I'm willing to do this.

3D explosives can be an order of magnitude more powerful for the same effort (i.e. infusion TN) or as powerful with a lower TN. Detection seals will usually have a longer range and/or higher sensitivity for the same effort. Construct seals (e.g. Air Dome) will be stronger and/or have a larger area for the same effort. Some effects that require an array of 2D seal elements (the category to which Lesser Barrier Formation and Five Seal Barrier belong) can be accomplished with a single 3D seal. In some cases a 2D seal that requires physical contact can be replaced with a 3D seal that operates from a distance.

In particular.
 
Think we should wait on Fast Forward Runes. Better to research a few more baby runes and level PS a little more first. Afraid of a rune failure. Suggested easy runes, HOWS and Runic Drag. This gives Hazō's safety estimates better calibration. Otherwise, not confident in our rune difficulty checks.

Fast Forward Rune — Hazou thinks this rune is well within his capabilities
We've already done a difficulty check that says this rune is well within Hazou's capabilities. I don't know what more you want here.

How soon can we get started on motherfuckin hyperbolic time chamber runes? Because I think that should be our priority, in the near term.

They're in my plan, plz vote 🙏
 
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My guess is more like 10% chance Hazō miscategorised the difficulty and fails on +12. Or less than +6, more forgivingly. But no reason to trust my random numbers.
Why should we think that's the case for this rune in particular? If it was another rune where the diff check came back "Hazou thinks this rune is well within his capabilities" would you be similarly concerned?
 
Why should we think that's the case for this rune in particular? If it was another rune where the diff check came back "Hazou thinks this rune is well within his capabilities" would you be similarly concerned?
If the only information we had about the rune was the check, then yes. Thinking a rune is within his capabilities is relative to his skill, not an objective measurement of difficulty.
If Hazō has reference research notes for the seal, or has done at least one day of prep, he will be able to roughly judge the objective difficulty of the seal. We'll try to remember to volunteer the information, but if we don't then feel free to ping us. The answer will be one of the following:
  • "Trivial": TN <= 20s.
  • "Genin-level": TN 10s-40s.
  • "Chūnin-level": TN 30s-60s.
  • "Jōnin-level": TN 50s-80s.
  • "Jiraiya": TN >= 70s.
As there is at least 25% overlap between seal difficulty estimates, expect that at least 25% of seals withing his capability fall within "he thinks he could maybe do it." And because he has almost no experience in the field, maybe even some overlap with "this rune is beyond his capabilities."

Theorycrafting. Rune TNs will almost always be two "difficulty categories" easier than researching the same strength effect using seals so difficulty checks can be laundered by doing prep days on easier-than Jiraiya level seals.
 
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  • Sealing Research - primarily on the Seventh Path, return for infusions only
    • 1st SSA track - RRBs, max prep, double invoke, ask Kagome for help
    • 2nd SSA track - Fast Forward Runes, full prep
      • Finish Substitution seals while waiting for this track to synchronize with the first
    • 3rd track finish Force Walls, max prep, invoke if Hazou thinks it's necessary to finish this cycle, infuse on day 7.
    • Do prep days on the following seals/runes if there's additional time on some tracks
My big problem with this entire section, with the exception of Fast Forward runes,m is that we are not making literally any progress toward the goal Naruto set us throughout it.
 
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