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Like, I really feel for Kagome there:
"Can we please just leave?!" Kagome-sensei burst out. "Honestly, what does it take to get through to you people? They're all stinkers here. They're mean to Kei, they're mean to Mari, they stab us in the back and send maggot worms to ruin our food and glare at us in the streets and bully Honoka and why can't we just leave?! The woods are fine! They're all busy killing each other, let's just take everyone and go back to those islands down south. It was nice there and there weren't any stinking ninja stinkers threatening to kidnap Hazō and kill him."
Imagine how it looks from his perspective, if put in more relatable terms. You move to a new city, and belatedly find out you're living next to a infamous mob boss so well-connected nothing sticks to him. One day he comes into your house, terrorizes two of your family members, almost drags one of them to his house to do ???, tries to extort you so they come voluntarily the next day. The authorities explicitly tell you to get fucked. This isn't the first time this kind of thing happens, either. And still the rest of your family adamantly refuse to move! They say it's a really nice community there, job opportunities like nowhere else, and besides, moving would be such a hassle.

Utter madness.

Poor Kagome.
 
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Like, I really feel for Kagome there:

Imagine how it looks from his perspective, if put in more relatable terms. You move to a new city, and belatedly find out you're living next to a infamous mob boss so well-connected nothing sticks to him. One day he comes into your house, terrorizes two of your family members, almost drags one of them to his house to do ???, tries to extort you so they come voluntarily the next day. The authorities explicitly tell you to get fucked. This isn't the first time this kind of thing happens, either. And still the rest of your family adamantly refuse to move! They say it's a really nice community there, job opportunities like nowhere else, and besides, moving would be such a hassle.

Utter madness.

Poor Kagome.
On the other hand, the infamous mob boss has a long enough reach that we'd be moving constantly for the rest our lives.

On the other other hand, Kagome pointed this out when we decided to move here in the first place.
 
Ami: "You're still making claims about probabilities -- I'm no happier about the Hokage risking Kei's life, something which I continue to struggle with since any risk is too much. Stopping Mari from doing the same is actually within my capabilities right now."

This is useful for me.
You don't even need to go as high as the Hokage. What would [random Wakahisa elder #7] do if you asked him to weigh Kei's life against one of his clansmen? Or even [random Nara advisor #4], forced to weigh a risk to Kei's life against a grave risk to other clanmembers or the clan as a whole? The list of ninja willing to consider harm to Kei as acceptable is very long. In fact, Mari is literally one of the 10-20 people in the world who prioritises Kei's survival the highest. The idea that Mari presents some actual non-negligible risk to Kei's wellbeing compared to most people seems... laughable. If Ami actually cared about optimising Kei's survival, she should go murder some cloud nin or something.

Ami's standard of "any non-zero willingness to accept harm to Kei is unacceptable" that they spent a large chunk of the update discussing is not really a standard she operates under. It's only being applied to Mari in this situation which indicates it's not her actual reason, rather a post-hoc justification to herself and/or a red herring style social manipulation to distract Hazou (quite successful tbh, he seems to have accepted it as valid). Ami wants to hurt Mari either out of vengeance for emotional satisfaction (my guess) or as deterrence against anyone else who would "act against" Keiko.

I do think that Ami's argument that she is committed to disproportionate and grievous punishment against anyone who actually intentionally risks Kei's life as deterrence (rather than moving against anyone who would) is a much stronger point. Under that model, she only holds people who have already risked Kei's life to her impossible standard, finds them wanting, then moves against them. I don't have a good argument against this except that it violates Kei's agency maybe?
 
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Plan makers: bringing Ami into the loop could be an alternative to precommitting to horrific things upon Keis death. She's smart and knows her utility function: Kei's health. Attacking Mari, or any Gouketsu, would be counter to bringing Kei back. We could easily promise to devote ourselves to bringing people back should any of Team Uplift die, since I imagine the VIHH will do that anyways.
 
Ami wants to hurt Mari either out of vengeance for emotional satisfaction (my guess) or as deterrence against anyone else who would "act against" Keiko
Both, I think.
I do think that Ami's argument that she is committed to disproportionate and grievous punishment against anyone who actually intentionally risks Kei's life as deterrence (rather than moving against anyone who would) is a much stronger point. Under that model, she only holds people who have already risked Kei's life to her impossible standard, finds them wanting, then moves against them. I don't have a good argument against this accept that it violates Kei's agency maybe?
The best way to not end up in a situation where you have no choice but to intentionally risk Kei's life is to avoid situations involving Kei entirely (unless you actually value Kei above everything else, which only one person does). Hence, this strategy ends up creating a deterrent against closely working with Kei, and therefore, a deterrent against becoming Kei's close ally who would genuinely care about her well-being. Kei is important, so people would still have to work with her, but they'd try to minimize involvement as much as possible.

If successful, this gives her the same public image as Oro has, basically.
 
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I'm not caught up fully with the thread, but wanted to put this out there in case it's useful and hasn't been mentioned yet:

By putting herself at odds with Mari, Ami is making Kei less safe. Sure, this time Mari put Kei in danger. Next time, it will probably be Asuma, or Rock, or Orochimaru deciding he needs to dissect her and damn the consequences. As the most powerful member of the Gōketsu Mari is still a much more powerful force for Kei's protection than for her harm, and Kei will be put in danger again, by circumstances if not by superior officers. By driving a wedge between herself and Mari, or worse by reducing Mari's ability to act in Kei's benefit, Ami makes it more likely that Kei will be hurt or die in the future.

Mari only did what she did because of Orochimaru. Instead of entering conflict with Mari, it would be more productive to work together with her to eliminate large threats to Kei like Orochimaru or Rock. Ami managed survive Orochimaru by herself. I imagine she would be capable of even more extraordinary things with Mari helping, even including eliminating Orochimaru's threat to Kei if he comes knocking again (as an example). She'll certainly be more likely to succeed than she would by herself.

Could we persuade Ami Mari's survival increases Kei's odds? Orchestrating a Leaf jounin's death could put Leaf and Mist at war, or cause internal strife between clans.
For this section, you could add something like the following points:
  • Mari is still a bigger force for Kei's protection than for her harm
    • In this world, Kei will come into harm's way again, and Ami can use all the help she can get keeping Kei safe
  • This time Mari played an unacceptable role in the danger to Kei, but even if Mari dies right here on the spot there will still be a next time, and even if she hadn't played a part it would probably have happened eventually. Orochimaru would have caught on about Snowflake eventually, and new dangers will always arise.

I can't figure out how to make it less wordy, but if you like it feel free to mangle it down to a manageable word count.

[X] In Which Hazou Proposes Catastrophic Damage As Damage Control
 
As Hazō's Severe Consequences heal only a week from now, it is time to consider how to spend Hazō's XP.

Hazō currently has 418 unspent XP and 28.72 unspent Yamanaka XP and is at Resolve 26 and Shadow Clone 30.
FOOM Multiplier: 0.5
Required Chakra Refill (excluding regular daily usage and chakra spent during training): 170 CP / day


By QM fiat, we are currently buying a suspiciously large amount of chakra to power Akane and Kei's FOOM training. When Hazō resumes FOOMing, he will require an additonal 170 CP each day he FOOMs plus whatever amount of chakra he spends on a daily life and for training itself. If his XP is spent on Resolve training, the amount of chakra he would require increases even further. This extra chakra is not feasible considering the high risk we are already taking.

Instead, we should raise Hazō's Shadow Clone from 30 to 40 so we can have a single shadow clone cast last for all three training blocks, which would drastically reduce the amount of chakra needed. With the remaining XP, his Resolve can be raised from 26 to 29. With these new levels, Hazō would have a FOOM multiplier of 0.7 and would actually have an additional 58 CP in his reserves after casting shadow clone, which could be used for daily usage, training, or as a source to give to Akane or Kei.

[X] Training Hazō: Chakra Scarcity
Shadow Clones 30 -> 40 (355 XP)
Resolve 26 -> 29 (27 Yamanaka XP + 57 XP)
Save 6 XP and 1.72 Yamanaka XP
 
[X] Training Hazō: Chakra Scarcity
[X] In Which Hazou Proposes Catastrophic Damage As Damage Control
Hazou respects Kei's choice to cut ties, so she's welcome to remain uninvolved if she prefers. However, he'd like to discuss the situation with Snowflake, if she is amenable. He wants to know what she and Kei would like to do, and how to best satisfy their, the clan's, and his own preferences.
I think the bolded should be put onto its own line before stating Hazou's respect for Kei to remain uninvolved if possible; as is I had the feeling that Hazou was claiming to respect Kei's choice but then asking her what she'd like to do anyway.
Notably, Ami stated that she'll prioritize Kei's safety over Kei's agency/desires; that'd need to be accounted for.
  • Kei, do you want Ami to destroy Mari? Should she do this to anyone she thinks might pose the slightest risk to you?
Noumero and Sentient Tree, among others, have made comments expanding on Ami prioritizing Kei's safety over her agency/desires, and I feel that it's important enough a lever that it should have more detail than this. Especially in the context of what would be made of Kei's friends staying by her side if Ami actually went and destroyed Mari.
Hazou expects Mari'd be opposed to indulging Ami at all, and might try to handle it on her own, social-spec to social-spec. Hazou trusts her judgement, but he'd greatly appreciate if she looped him into anything she does, preferably beforedoing it. A showdown between the two could have catastrophic consequences regardless of the victor.
The bolded lost its space.
 
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591 xp. That's how much we need to earn for chakra scarcity to be worth it, assuming we're going from training 1 time block a day to 7. That's quite a while for the middle of a ninja war. I'd argue we sink the xp we have into utility and let the rest of team uplift to FOOM. I really think we should use this chunk of xp for sealing, calligraphy and/or earthshaping. Bringing Jiraiya and subsequently all of the other Leaf S rankers back is game winning.
 
591 xp. That's how much we need to earn for chakra scarcity to be worth it, assuming we're going from training 1 time block a day to 7. That's quite a while for the middle of a ninja war. I'd argue we sink the xp we have into utility and let the rest of team uplift to FOOM. I really think we should use this chunk of xp for sealing, calligraphy and/or earthshaping. Bringing Jiraiya and subsequently all of the other Leaf S rankers back is game winning.

We need Earthshaping to fix the Great Seal right now.
 
Konoha Jōnin Population

Likely knowledgeable and able to pass on techniques.
Might not know the clan's high-level techniques or belongs to a clan that is new and likely has no high-level techniques.
Belongs to a clan that does has already been devestated.

Jōnin
Specialization
Clan
Not Deployable?
Notes
Asuma Sarutobi​
Hokage​
Sarutobi
X
Active Hokages are not field deployable.
Orochimaru​
Yes​
~~~​
Tsunade Senju​
Yes​
Senju
Naruto Uzumaki​
Yes​
Uzumaki
Might not be Jōnin rank.
Mari Gōketsu​
Social, I&S​
Gōketsu
Ritsuo Hagoromo​
???​
Hagoromo
Motokazu Hyūga​
Examination​
Hyūga
Kurenai Yūhi​
Genjutsu​
~~~​
Chōza Akimichi​
Heavy Combat​
Akimichi
Ruri Kei​
Genearlist​
Kei
Condor Summoner
Aika Minami​
???​
Minami
Porcupine Summoner
Kabuto Yakushi​
Medical​
~~~​
Kanata Kei​
???​
Kei
Suguru Kei​
???​
Kei
???​
???​
???​
Agent Snake?​
???​
???​
???​
Last mentioned Chapter 318 (post collapse). Might be dead.

Special Jōnin:
Yuno Gōketsu, Anko Kei, Ebisu Kei.

14/21 jōnin accounted for
5 clans have at least one jōnin who likely knows and can pass on high-level techniques


@faflec, is there any other jōnin we have seen or heard about. Also, is there a list of all the important clans in Leaf somewhere?

[Part 2/3]
I have decided I am going to actively maintain this list (link in signature) (with information as far as Hazō knows). Knowing who the power players of Leaf are is vitally important for deciding what we want to do. For instance, we now know that the majority of known jōnin are KEI-affiliated and only a few jōnin are conservative-aligned.

If anyone can think of any other named Konoha jōnin that were alive after the Collapse, please let me know.

@eaglejarl @Velorien, I have few questions.
  1. Does the list of 21 jōnin include S-Rankers and the Hokage?
  2. Does it include special jōnin?
  3. If Hazō asked Noburi for the names of the jōnin he refilled, what would he say?
  4. If Hazō asked Kei if the Nara have a jōnin, what would she say?
  5. If Hazō asked Ino if the Yamanaka have a jōnin, what would she say?
  6. If Hazō asked Mari who the jōnin in the village were, would she know anyone not on this list?
 
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I think the bolded should be put onto its own line before stating Hazou's respect for Kei to remain uninvolved if possible; as is I had the feeling that Hazou was claiming to respect Kei's choice but then asking her what she'd like to do anyway.
Done, also fixed the mushed-together words

Noumero and Sentient Tree, among others, have made comments expanding on Ami prioritizing Kei's safety over her agency/desires, and I feel that it's important enough a lever that it should have more detail than this. Especially in the context of what would be made of Kei's friends staying by her side if Ami actually went and destroyed Mari.
How would you expand on it? @Noumero @Sentient Tree Do you have input on it?

  • Mari is still a bigger force for Kei's protection than for her harm
    • In this world, Kei will come into harm's way again, and Ami can use all the help she can get keeping Kei safe
  • This time Mari played an unacceptable role in the danger to Kei, but even if Mari dies right here on the spot there will still be a next time, and even if she hadn't played a part it would probably have happened eventually. Orochimaru would have caught on about Snowflake eventually, and new dangers will always arise.
I'll try and work this in, I'm kinda hoping to stay beneath 400 words though
 
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Alright, let's try to do this normally.

The way I see it, there are four distinct reasons why Ami would seek Mari's destruction (potentially more! do tell if I'm missing anything):
  • Safety: Ami believes that Mari is a direct threat to Kei.
    • Counter: On net, Mari is a massive positive force for Kei's survival, and the negatives only come up in edge cases where anyone (except Ami) would risk Kei.
  • Justice: In Ami's world, disproportionate retribution for endangering Kei is just.
    • No way to counter that, there's only convincing Ami to let this "injustice" pass for other reasons.
  • Deterrence: Making it clear that anyone who harmed Kei would be destroyed incentivizes people not to do that.
    • Counter: This creates all manners of perverse incentives and selection pressures.
    • Most people don't value Kei above everything else, and would risk her in a sufficiently high-stakes situation. Avoiding her therefore becomes in one's best interests, and becoming her close ally turns into a terrible idea.
    • This applies to all her current allies. There'd be an incentive to abandon her now, before you end up embroiled in some disaster where you'd have to risk Kei.
    • If this goes on for long enough, Kei would end up with no safety net; and what if Ami then dies? Ami would be the single point of failure in that scheme.
    • Besides, the likes of Oro, those too powerful for Ami to threaten, won't care — and if Ami is successful in eliminating the rest of Kei's support structures, she'd be much easier prey.
  • Wrath: On an emotional level, Ami hates Mari for endangering the person she loves most, and wants to hurt her for the pleasure of it.
    • Hopefully Hazou's stunt at the end of the latest update took care of that.
This could probably be trimmed a bit and presented to Ami as follow-up arguments. Or we could run it by Mari/Kei/Snowflake first (though that might not be a good idea: if Ami figures out we took e. g. Mari's input, she might not like that one bit, same way she was pissed off about the soup thing).

@Shrooms et al., maybe consider the above.
 
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Alright, let's try to do this normally.

The way I see it, there are four distinct reasons why Ami would seek Mari's destruction (potentially more! do tell if I'm missing anything):
  • Safety: Ami believes that Mari is a direct threat to Kei.
    • Counter: On net, Mari is a massive positive force for Kei's survival, and the negatives only come up in edge cases where anyone (except Ami) would risk Kei.
  • Justice: In Ami's world, disproportionate retribution for endangering Kei is just.
    • No way to counter that, there's only convincing Ami to let this "injustice" pass for other reasons.
  • Deterrence: Making it clear that anyone who harmed Kei would be destroyed incentivizes people not to do that.
    • Counter: This creates all manners of perverse incentives and selection pressures.
    • Most people don't value Kei above everything else, and would risk her in a sufficiently high-stakes situation. Avoiding her therefore becomes in one's best interests, and becoming her close ally turns into a terrible idea.
    • This applies to all her current allies. There'd be an incentive to abandon her now, before you end up embroiled in some disaster where you'd have to risk Kei.
    • If this goes on for long enough, Kei would end up with no safety net; and what if Ami then dies? Ami would be the single point of failure in that scheme.
    • Besides, the likes of Oro, those too powerful for Ami to threaten, won't care — and if Ami is successful in eliminating the rest of Kei's support structures, she'd be much easier prey.
  • Wrath: On an emotional level, Ami hates Mari for endangering the person she loves most, and wants to hurt her for the pleasure of it.
    • Hopefully Hazou's stunt at the end of the latest update took care of that.
This could probably be trimmed a bit and presented to Ami as follow-up arguments. Or we could run it by Mari/Kei/Snowflake first (though that might not be a good idea: if Ami figures out we took e. g. Mari's input, she might not like that one bit, same way she was pissed off about the soup thing).

@Shrooms et al., maybe consider the above.
I like it, although I would prefer for Ami to be re-confronted next Velorien update when we have Mari's and Kei's (albeit biased) insight
 
@Shrooms Could you just add in a Misc section to patrol the Hyena border or something like that? So it's obvious we aren't shirking our punishment detail?

I would prefer that Hazo experiment with repairing the crack instead of wasting words Hazopilot is going to do anyway.


That is, we should make various cracked rock and see how earthshaping works to repair them. Preferably with a wide variety of materials.
 
I would prefer that Hazo experiment with repairing the crack instead of wasting words Hazopilot is going to do anyway.


That is, we should make various cracked rock and see how earthshaping works to repair them. Preferably with a wide variety of materials.

I've got an ej plan up if you're interested. 184 word so far. I can include another scene if you want. Anything besides working on Crack repair of sandstone?

Gonna go with any training plan that boost ES as well.

[X] Action Plan: Down to Earth Bros
Word Count: 184

  1. Continue summoning training with Kagome.
  2. Patrol the Hyena border per Cannai's instructions.

Bijuu Seals:

Both the Great Seal and Bijuu Seal seem to be designed to house powerful entities. It might be another avenue to explore for repairing the seal. To that end, while Kagome's studying, begin reviewing the Bijuu Seal notes. Assume the Bijuu seals are not something an IN user casually glances at, so before Kagome begins summoning training, have him mark out sections that the seals appear in.

Chakra Metal?:

Can chakra metal be produced from standard kunai and shuriken sets? If not, find out how earthshaper interacts with copper and iron ores of high purity.
  • Prep:
  1. Ask Gaku to purchase the ores.
  2. And If needed, increase the purity of iron or copper ores as much as possible. Cut off the undesirable material.
  • Test:
  1. Use the chakra saturation stage of earth shaper to mimic the exposure of metal to a chakra rich environment. Test this out on both kunai and shuriken. Saturate the ores in your possession as well.
  2. Invite Noburi to observe, give advice, or intervene if something goes wrong.
 
Related to the Great Seal: Should we be delivering the (more completed) information on the Great Seal to the rest of Leaf?
 
[X] Training Hazō: Chakra Scarcity

Trying my hand at a plan.

Feel free to let me know where I failed.

[X] Where Hazō "Uplifts"
Word Count: 385-ish

  • Relay to Mari what Ami has said
    • Stress that Mari is important to Hazō and the Goketsu as a mother and a general overseer/parent figure.
    • Ami must not succeed
    • Keep her head on a swivel, as Ami might ambush her. Be prepared until we know she's no longer gunning for her.
    • Don't attack Ami first though, only retaliate if she feels her hand is forced.
  • Meet with Ami (Sanity check with Noburi and Mari)
    • Call her out for being a hypocrite
      • Mari faced down an S-Class threat for Kei
        • On the spot, with no time to prepare
        • Has Ami done the same in the time she's been here? He should be the target of her ire.
        • Until she's done this, she can't even be put on Mari's level as far as 'caring about Kei'.
        • She has a lot of words and threats, but not nearly as many actions as Mari
    • Make it clear that destroying Mari is non-negotiable and absolutely cannot happen under any circumstances
      • Stress that it will hurt Kei more than anything else she can do
      • Stress that it will put Kei in more danger than without Mari. Mari does a lot to protect her (and us)
      • It will split Kei's family up to detrimental levels
      • Doing this on Kei's behalf trivializes her as a person and a ninja, removing her agency and indicating that Ami doesn't value her much
  • Let Kei know the full story if Ami does not relent. If Ami relents, let Kei know of her anger and that she should talk to her sister. (Sanity check with Mari and Noburi)
  • Off-Screen:
    • Delegate running the clan to Akane and Mari and Noburi if he has time
    • Ask if Noburi can takeover Kagome's summoning training
    • Sealing research:
      • Force Walls
        • Making them smaller/viable for combat
          • Possibly as swords and shields
      • Recreating basic seals with 3d sealing
        • Storage seals
        • Explosion seals/tags
        • Macerators?
    • Hyena Patrol (sanity check with Mari and Noburi)
      • Is trade possible or permitted?
      • Can we exchange information?
        • Information on their summoner?
      • On Patrol:
        • If Cannai allows trade, initiate trade talks
        • Ask about Hyena's scroll and summoner
 
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"Are there any s-sinks in the Seal?"

"Sort of. The whole point of a sink—oh, thank you." Hazō gave a small nod to the orderly who had brought in a rolling table with a tray containing bland food and tepid tea. The orderly fussed over him for a bit, bowed, and disappeared.

"The point of a sink is that it isn't connected to anything," Hazō resumed. "We don't see anything like that. There's a whole bunch of elements in this thing that none of us recognize, but they're all connected. Kagome-sensei is theorizing that they aren't sinks, they're stabilizers. They actually absorb the leaked chakra, clean it, and put it back into the system."

Harumitsu eyed him dubiously. "R-r-really? If you'll f-f-f-forgive m-me, My L-Lord, th-that sounds c-c-crazy."

Hazō chuckled and took a sip of his tea. "I know, right? If the chakra didn't get properly synchronized before being reinjected you'd get a resonance and it would all blow up. Plus, if there was too much leakage for the intake to handle it would build up and you'd have the whole vortex problem." He shifted slightly, trying to find a position where his back didn't complain so much, and sighed when he couldn't. "If Kagome-sensei is right about what's happening, that would suggest that the Seal is failing, it's just doing it slowly. The best case is that its performance will degrade until the entire thing shuts down. More likely is that the vortices build up and up and up until the entire seal fails catastrophically. Given how much chakra this thing must be pulling in, that failure is going to be truly epic."

"P-pity th-there isn't s-some w-way to add more s-stabilizers, or u-use up the ch-chakra. That c-could p-prevent the f-failure, r-right?"

"In theory," Hazō said. "It would be great if we could, but it's not practical. Even if Kagome-sensei is right about what those things are, there's no way to add more of them. We don't understand how they work, we don't understand how they perform the synchronization or manage the harmonics, and it's not like you can just insert new elements into an active seal. We'd need to redraw the entire seal with the new elements in order to ensure the balance was right, and..." His mouth gaped open and his teacup plummeted from frozen fingers, bouncing off the tray and splashing tea across his blankets.
@Kiba, the Great Seal is currently failing because the Great Seal is intaking too much (or perhaps unsynchronized) chakra. HOWS, our current and only method of slowing the failure, work by using up the chakra before it can get reabsorbed.

Earthshaping works by sending you own chakra into earth and then manipulating the infused sample. Sending our own chakra into the Great Seal could massively accelerate the failure or cause an instant catastrophe.

There are also a few other concerns. We do not know what material the Great Seal is made of and if it is a valid target for Earthshaping. We do not know what each part of the Great Seal does and what would happen if it chakra enters it. We do not know what happens if you add excess chakra to a seal, even if it isn't in the process of failing.

We cannot jump straight into using Earthshaping on the Great Seal.

We need to know more information first. I have a plan (already posted if you want to look) for researching how 3D Sealing works that I will start arguing for as soon as Hazō's severes heal next week. I also think we should investigate the cracks more before we try to do anything to them. Starting with:
A few things here. We now have gone over the entire Great Seal (including seeing it from above through a shadow clone) and have seen the entire thing. If only we had done this a few weeks earlier. We could simply have told Orochimaru that we had gone back and examined it and that's why we knew so much. No instant memorization needed. Wait, why didn't we do that in the first place? This isn't the first time we've been back to the Great Seal.

More importantly, we now know the physical cause (or at least the physical manifestation) of the Great Seal's weakening. We should upgrade our chakrameters and then see if the cracks are outputting chakra or allowing it to seep in from the outside.

We should also start working with the other sealmaster to determine what purpose the cracked areas serve.

A few questions that Hazō should know:
Are that cracks along the lowest portion of the Great Seal or along the bottom part of every bit of the stone?
Is any of the stone cracked off completely? Even a small piece would be great to bring back and analyze.
 
[X] Lord Marshal

@Shrooms I've made my own plan, but based on yours. Main differences are:
  • Explicitly calling out the ways that Ami targeting Mari is counterproductive for Kei
  • More explicitly anti-contract (although still not rejected out of hand)
Some of the changes are pretty innocuous, so please feel free to take any and all if you like them!
  • Updated wording on asking for advice for Ami conversations from Akane/Mari so it's not a "do I suck?" question.
  • Added a line updating rest of clan with high-level summary of our resolution, so Haru isn't blindsided and doesn't feel cut out.
  • Added to the Mari's survival is good for Kei section with @Sentient Tree 's suggestions
  • Engaging more with Mari as the expert on best way of resolving this in the Mari convo
    • Asking for her projections on outcomes!
  • Added modifier to contract suggestions making sure we don't accidentally spout more treason :)
  • Moved the contract details convo from Kei/Snowflake conversation to other convo; I think it belongs better in an in-clan discussion involving Mari on how to handle it
  • Slightly reduced wordcount in a few places

[X] Don't Enter the Diva Path
Word Count: 394
  • Relay Ami conversation to Kei and Snowflake. Make space for their feelings, but stay focused on delivering information. Bring Akane and Noburi.
    • Hazou respects Kei's choice to cut ties, so she's welcome to remain uninvolved if she prefers. However, he'd like to discuss the situation with Snowflake, if she is amenable.
    • Hazou is against the contract, and would talking Ami out of 'destroying' Mari.
      • Notably, Ami stated that she'll prioritize Kei's safety over Kei's agency/desires
        • Kei, do you want Ami to destroy Mari? What about others she thinks might pose the slightest risk to you?
      • Could we persuade Ami Mari's survival increases Kei's odds?
        • Mari is still a much more powerful force for Kei's protection than for her harm, and Kei will be in danger again. Driving a wedge between herself and Mari, or reducing Mari's ability to act in Kei's benefit is net negative for Kei's wellbeing.
        • Punishing Mari for placing Kei's wellbeing high but not paramount disincentivises others from getting involved with Kei, even if the effect would be net helpful. This is also terrible for Kei's agency.
  • Relay Ami and Snowflake conversations to Akane, Noburi, Mari, and Kagome
    • Hazou trusts Mari's judgement on best way to resolve.
      • If Mari wants to resolve it social-spec to social-spec:
        • Ask Mari for assessment on odds of success and best/worst/likely outcomes (can be offscreen and/or in-private with Mari). A showdown between the two could have catastrophic consequences regardless of the victor.
        • He'd greatly appreciate if she looped him into anything she does, preferably before doing it.
        • Don't sacrifice yourself, please.
      • Contract: Hazou is opposed, both ideologically and he questions its viability. But willing to do it if Mari thinks it a good idea:
        • Must be palatable to the rest of the clan — Hazou won't commit without their consent.
        • Ideas (only mention if Mari is pro-contract):
          • Pledging all clan resources to the Hyuuga.
          • Propose if Hazou-pilot doesn't think treasonous:
            • Staging an attack on Orochimaru's Basement.
            • Hazou becoming Ami's vassal, directly.
    • Was this a play to make Hazou more Ami-aligned?
    • It seems that Ami is projecting her inaction with Kei's bullies onto Mari's actions, and she essentially declared herself voluntarily irrational on the subject.
    • Akane, Mari, you've chatted with Ami often. Any advice on handling Ami convos like that in the future?
  • Give rest of the clan the high-level summary of the resolution.
 
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I'm tempted to dump the remaining XP into sealing, calligraphy, or earth shaping, but I figured using this and seeing what it does would probably be better.

[X] Training Hazou: Great Seal Sealing Ceiling
Earthshaping: 30-> 40 355XP
Resolve 26 -> 27 27 Yamanaka training XP,
Save 61 XP, 1.72 Yamanaka XP
 
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