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The formula is likely correct, the other half of the XP is in the box that says "Max level by element" or "Max level for discount purposes"
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Do we have any fires in the near future we need to stamp out? Currently I can only think of a few things:
- We need a Yuno rehabilitation plan, and probably talk with her again directly instead of handling her with kid gloves. Probably can be delegated because we suck at socials
- We need to curb Ami's A day plans in light of new information (and have a conversation with her at 100% capability), but not sure if that needs to happen now now.
- Ino Goo bomb deals blah blah, Jashin politics blah blah
- ...and that's it I think?
- We need to figure out how we'll handle Oro when we get PS.
- We need to figure out how to politically navigate the opening of the rift or rifts in general.
We could always ES up a knife in exchange for a religious purification ritual? With Asuma as a mediator, we could just give Ritsuo the impression that it cost us an arm and a leg to get it commissioned. It would take care of some of that Jashinism negative propaganda.
ES is really bad at shaping metal. This is probably weeks of effort. And like..... it's a waste of time. Nothing is gonna make Haggy Boi like us. He'd probably take this as mockery rather than a sincere apology.
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I feel as though this addresses the symptom, and not the cause, of what F.S. was trying to address.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean by 'curb Ami's A-day plans', but yeah, we do need to figure out what our plan actually is and get prepared for it.Do we have any fires in the near future we need to stamp out? Currently I can only think of a few things:
- We need a Yuno rehabilitation plan, and probably talk with her again directly instead of handling her with kid gloves. Probably can be delegated because we suck at socials
- We need to curb Ami's A day plans in light of new information (and have a conversation with her at 100% capability), but not sure if that needs to happen now now.
- Ino Goo bomb deals blah blah, Jashin politics blah blah
- ...and that's it I think?
So you think the bridge is completely burned? He acknowledged we actually gave Harumitsu some good training when we did it. Might be a low-bar, but it's opening, no? I think we're still training him.
Well I tied the religious stuff in as as Hazou extending a hand... I guess we could always continue making Haru the best sealmaster the Hags could hope for. That should thaw relations a little.
Wasn't it in Rocks at what is now a research facility? I thought we couldn't get it because there was too much risk of being discovered.
We probably should not delegate the Yuno issue, as 1)we're the one at fault here; 2) we're not so socially inept that we can't have a conversation with her (though we'll still need a decent plan); 3) it's a good opportunity to reduce Yuno's isolation if we can have a genuine friendship with her.
- We need a Yuno rehabilitation plan, and probably talk with her again directly instead of handling her with kid gloves. Probably can be delegated because we suck at socials
- We need to curb Ami's A day plans in light of new information (and have a conversation with her at 100% capability), but not sure if that needs to happen now now.
If Yuno enjoys teaching, perhaps we could have her teach more Gouketsu ?
I think even Asuma won't be convinced this is a good idea. Missions taking a week or less are one thing, but long term missions are probably off the table unless absolutely necessary.
I mean, both are world famous sealmasters and OOC we know F is a part of the Sealmaster Conspiracy (the 'guardians'? 'Watchers'?).
Well, she doesn't act like it either; though it might be to her advantage, as being known as an S-ranker would guarantee people would be extra wary/careful with her. She's a social spec, she wants people to lower their guard.
I mean, wasn't that how it used to be, before KEI was established? That's why Asuma's Contest was a surprise: ninjas gave away their family's secret techniques. KEI changed everything as non-clan ninjas suddenly became automatically part of a clan. KEI ninjas shared their techniques within a clan that had the particularity of having to send away their ninjas to other clans.
Although, I will admit that you're right in saying that in the end, it comes down to politics. Can the new clan get away with asking secrets about the adoptee's former clan? The new clan will never publicize it, because that's probably a casus belli right there. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was the usual practice.
We broke Ritsuo's knife. Giving him another one, and in exchange for a service he'd be doing to us (his nemesis), that would not be taken well.
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Way too late, Ritsuo hates us and there's no way he'd accept a bribe, much less a bribe we gave him which isn't actually useful to him.
We finished that apprenticeship a while ago. Hags took issue with the way we did it. He wasn't particularly happy with us pawning off Harumitsu on other sealmasters when we left Leaf.
I just think anything other than an armed truce, so to speak, with the man, is more-or-less impossible. The dagger was a regrettable action by Hazoupilot, IMO, but not really something we can address.
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I think that Pilot did a decent quantity of work to push that relationship beyond repair. The minimum acceptable outcome is that Ritsuo is disgraced and steps down as clan head, and said disgrace would need to be the sort of thing that prevents him from becoming a martyr.
Unless and until that happens, a very frosty armed truce is all we can hope for until years pass.
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Alternately, Jiraiya taking over would do the trick.
Huh. I thought we were still doing sealing stuff with him. I agree that a armed truce is the best we can get, but I think we might need to invest in Harumitsu again since there's also a chance I think he might participate in the Dragon war and GS repair.
Things might have changed after our ES reveal, but I'd imagine this is still being cooked up.
We might also need some of this lore, but I figure Harumitsu would be the best person to extract it from the Hags. I imagine the only way he'd get access is if he was doing something like averting the end of the world. Still seems like our only avenue.
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Eh, yes and no. We've met with Harumitsu a handful of times after his apprenticeship ended, we've let him know that we'd always help him out if he ever had any Sealing questions, or needed our help with a project. We've also introduced him to the entire Clan, offscreen, and were told that the meeting went pretty well (plus or minus some Goketsu Clan quirkiness), so he knows that he's always welcome on the estate.
Recently, we've also discussed trading him some basic tech tree stuff in return for his Cooling seal. Stuff like Jiraiya's Daybright Instructional Chain and the Bubble/Colored Smoke seals (from the Conclave Opening Scene) would help Harumitsu have a broad tech base to build up off from, and would help us remain connected with our former apprentice.
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I need you to stop looking at this from 'cold dispassionate RAW' and start thinking about the emotional consequence of demanding a new and very isolated member of our organisation betray the trust of their former compatriots while having the power to have this person executed on a whim. Like straight up, Hazou's behavior is unethical. Saying this as a social-worker-in-training who has ethical conduct hammered into them 4 times a year, how we have approached the adoptees is unethical.
Oh okay. Sounds good then. Definitely should interface with Haru more. He's definitely someone non-Goketsu that I'd like to empower.
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Big disagree. This is the norm for clans. They share resources amongst each other. They joined up with the explicit purpose of wanting Hazou's seals. KEI is supremely hesitant to sell any extra Adoption Tickets because they know that the status quo is that adoptees share their jutsu and skills with the Clan they adopt into.
Our adoptees accepted our invitation knowing all of the above. They accepted the invitation, knowing they would receive Goketsu Clan seals and Goketsu Clan jutsu, and that they would be asked, in turn, to contribute their own stuff to the "Goketsu Pool of Resources."
They have access to some downright solid jutsu (one of which is an S-tier quality jutsu of a jutsu type that is very rare on its own) and Hazou's personal seals. Seals that have saved their lives on more than one occasion (Haru using Rocket Boots to avoid a trap that killed his teammates is just one example that springs to mind).
Their hypocrisy is grating.
Same, honestly. Sure, there are instrumental reasons for empowering Harumitsu that continue to be valid, but I'll readily admit that my main motivator here is "Harumitsu is a good kid, who deserves more positive male role models, and his likelihood of survival as a Sealmaster can only improve with Hazou's aid."
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@eaglejarl @Velorien, can a QM give us an answer on this? This should be IC knowledge - did our actions trip taboos over stealing knowledge that Hazou is aware of (or Mari has informed him)? I don't know any other way to resolve this and I'm sick of people getting angry about 'hypocrisy' in a foreign culture that they refuse to meaningfully engage with on an emotional level.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped Is there any way to determine how difficult the calligraphy for a given sealing project will be, separate of the Sealing?
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Kindly stop thinking like a damn corporation trying to navigate intellectual property laws, because it ain't that. Techniques are the measure of someone's experience and legacy. They keep people alive. Giving personal techniques would be an act of trust and desire for another to survive. Master and disciple, blood brothers forged in battle, etc. They aren't being hypocritical, you just don't give a shit about emotional/cultural context. Even with the advent of KEI and Asuma's Contest, these cultural beliefs still exist.
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You can make your point without being an asshole about it. Probably more likely to change minds that way too.
I think your point is a good one but maybe don't immediately go for the throat of one of MfD's nicest players and assume the worst about their intentions.
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I do not appreciate the language used here, and would appreciate the profanity being scaled back.
If you want to discuss this further, we can, but I refuse to do so if this is the tone you intend to take for the duration of this conversation.
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Let me make myself clear. Ethically and competently interfacing with people from different cultures is literally something I have specifically been trained for. Resolving this very kind of organisational issue is my field. I am understandably frustrated when people decide to charge headfirst into this kind of behavior, because a) it's unethical by every possible standard and b) it obtains poor results and ends badly. Imagine the mood and reaction of an IT guy watching someone use their motherboard to cook eggs and then complaining that the motherboard breaks. That's about where I am on this.
EDIT: Whether or not RandomOTP is 'nice' is beyond my field. What is within my field is that they are behaving in an extremely culturally-insensitive manner, and if someone in my field acted like that 'on the job', they'd get reported and probably lose accreditation for misconduct.
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