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Remember those Sunday pottery classes EJ desperately wants to take, but can't because we keep not dying? This is why Earthshaping is a thing. Wish-fulfillment fantasy.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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[X] Raise up the ground around Konoha to form a giant pot
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AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I am very, very tired right now. As in "my single brain cell handed it off to the ghosts of its dead comrades to take a nap" tired.
But.
Beautiful Dragon Aura seems to function like Human Aura.
Maybe this means something?
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Dragons: *have a Beautiful Aura ability that forces you to perceive them as beautiful*
Humans: *have an Aura that forces you to perceive an element of their personality*
Dragons: *the Beautiful Aura can be resisted by a prepared, firmed Aura*
Humans: *the only true defense against Aura is Aura*
But.
Beautiful Dragon Aura seems to function like Human Aura.
Maybe this means something?
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Dragons: *have a Beautiful Aura ability that forces you to perceive them as beautiful*
Humans: *have an Aura that forces you to perceive an element of their personality*
Dragons: *the Beautiful Aura can be resisted by a prepared, firmed Aura*
Humans: *the only true defense against Aura is Aura*
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IIRC, there was a Noburi Interlude where Hazou wrote all the astrological information he could recall from the Rift. This may help in filtering for the Afterlife Dimension
Cariyaga
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I was thinking to myself about how it's kind of interesting the other paths seem to have chakra that's noxious to humans. The summon path turns you to stone, Naraka causes your memories to fade...
But then I realized: If sage mode is able to handle summon path chakra fine, is there an equivalent for the Naraka? A way to meditate that keeps your memories and chakra in tact on the path of the dead? Moreover: Would Jiraiya be able to work that out for himself?
e: On which note, we should ask Ma and Pa about this.
e2: Oh! Also ask them about if human path chakra has weird effects.
But then I realized: If sage mode is able to handle summon path chakra fine, is there an equivalent for the Naraka? A way to meditate that keeps your memories and chakra in tact on the path of the dead? Moreover: Would Jiraiya be able to work that out for himself?
e: On which note, we should ask Ma and Pa about this.
e2: Oh! Also ask them about if human path chakra has weird effects.
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what would Hazō think as a Summoner about the feasibility of traveling from the 7th Path back to the human path using something Hazō made as an anchor point, rather than the location he and the summoning Scroll departed from?
Important tidbit about wayshredding, it's done on the wayshredders initiative, and the summoning stunt is the formalized learning of that process soooo any Intuitions? Like
"Well, what I'm returning to is the corkscrew-inflected-periwinkle pulse of my penultimate chakra puff in the summoning technique, I'd need a totally different technique to travel this way"
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"Hmmm the summoning technique records the redvelvet/interior-curved interference from when the technique completes, and stores that until you use it to return. I guess if I found a way to change the techniques storage, or could build something else for the technique to record in the first place, it's possible."
Important tidbit about wayshredding, it's done on the wayshredders initiative, and the summoning stunt is the formalized learning of that process soooo any Intuitions? Like
"Well, what I'm returning to is the corkscrew-inflected-periwinkle pulse of my penultimate chakra puff in the summoning technique, I'd need a totally different technique to travel this way"
Vs
"Hmmm the summoning technique records the redvelvet/interior-curved interference from when the technique completes, and stores that until you use it to return. I guess if I found a way to change the techniques storage, or could build something else for the technique to record in the first place, it's possible."
Iris-Iven-Ibis
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Holy shit I love this idea so much when do we have Hanzo learns this after all I imagine each one of them having a different basis for what stat you need to use it for sage mode it's like physical because animals/summons tend to be stronger and then the average human chakra capacity because they have more mass than human so imagine for what I'm going to call afterlife mode would use resolve because the king of the Dead needs it to make judgments no matter what and some other stat maybe also chakra capacity that could be like a universal thing with all of them I wonder what benefits it would give you I know maybe you can consume memories and chakra living things kind of makes you a budget The Grue this is my current guess on how that would work also if you're wondering why there's no punctuation this is basically one thought in my brain
If this is still open for the players to take up, I can think of a few scenarios where we can come up with an excuse to encounter a genjutsu spec.
1) Hazou's upcoming rift expedition could be filled with all kinds of ddanger. Seeing how how Hazou ffights off genjutsu in the field might come in handy for that trip.
2) It'll be interesting to compare genjutsu specs vs that beautiful dragon on the 7th path.
3) I really want to see if we can help Mari by finding some useful jutsu out there that so she can buff herself. Maybe there's some cache or genjutsu lore we can case after? Might be something Mari would know more about.
That's all I got for now. Hopefully the other players are interested.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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...WAIT.
The sage of six paths. That's WHY HE'S CALLED THAT. He's a sage for all six paths that are not the human path.
Iris-Iven-Ibis
Interested-Idiot-Immortal
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@Cariyaga you are a genius
Now the question is what were the six paths that he mastered I believe that they are the same paths as the paths of pain I have this quote from the Naruto wiki about them below
"numbered from one through six using daiji characters and are ordered counter-clockwise around the room with a numbering scheme that corresponds with the ordering of the six Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation:
壱 (1) - Deva Path.
弐 (2) - Asura Path.
参 (3) - Human Path.
四 (4) - Animal Path.
五 (5) - Preta Path.
六 (6) - Naraka Path."
Now to add to this I believe that the sage was in fact not from any of these paths that he mastered in fact the reason why he was able to master them to the scale he did (he did supposedly create them after all) was that he was naturally an enlightened being. I believe that he was some kind of designer baby born of the Out after all the outer path is one of pains techniques so it stands the reason that he could be from there. now you may be wondering why do I think he's an enlightened being from birth well the answer is simple the other paths are based around the Buddhist cycle of reincarnation then the outer path is were you go once you break it it is literally in its name it is the path outside of all others.
Hell of a time is a understatement for sure anyways welcome the story is good enjoy some snacks and read some of my insane theories on various Mark for death things here and in the discord
Iris-Iven-Ibis
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I'm aware of the outer path I literally theorized that he was from there and because of that he was an enlightened being from birth
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Sorry, I must have missed that! My bad.
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Ninja are probably worth more points than civilians.
Someone would have to calculate how many civilians is equal to one ninja kill to settle who has the higher kill count.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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I think you mean "uplift the ground"
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Hey, it's nice to have you here! ^.^
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Welcome! Hope you have fun here and it's not too long before you get to cause your very own localised apocalypse.
If only you knew where to find the Death Summoner and earn their favour so they could teach you Dark Sage Mode.
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Welcome! Lovely to have you. How did you find out about us?
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@Velorien The contrast between Hazō, who set up a system that gave Snowflake 12 hours of freedom/life, and Shikamaru, who gave Snowflake the diary of Tobirama, the man who both created and enslaved shadow clone, is interesting and a bit sad.
Hazō worked to help Snowflake gain more freedom, so that she could experience life more, so that Snowflake could flex her own agency and become whomever she decides to be.
Shikamaru gave Snowflake a humanizing diary of the monster who restricted her freedom. Who made her a permanent slave to the orders of another (thankfully Kei has a thing about agency and found the line between "order" and "request" as soon as humanly possible).
And being confronted with a (perhaps unintentional?This reads more as Shikamaru thinking that he's giving out a cool/rare philosophy book) attempt at humanizing someone who does that to you is a knife in the gut. After all, why should you care about their trials and tribulations, their hopes and their dreams, when they sought to take your very personhood away?
Perhaps it needs to happen in order for you to heal, perhaps you can heal without that. But if it is to happen at all, it is to happen on your own time, at your own pace.
TL;DR: Interest contrast that implies things about Shikamaru's character.
Hazō worked to help Snowflake gain more freedom, so that she could experience life more, so that Snowflake could flex her own agency and become whomever she decides to be.
Shikamaru gave Snowflake a humanizing diary of the monster who restricted her freedom. Who made her a permanent slave to the orders of another (thankfully Kei has a thing about agency and found the line between "order" and "request" as soon as humanly possible).
And being confronted with a (perhaps unintentional?
Perhaps it needs to happen in order for you to heal, perhaps you can heal without that. But if it is to happen at all, it is to happen on your own time, at your own pace.
TL;DR: Interest contrast that implies things about Shikamaru's character.
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Why debate it when it's 100% facts? She was already an elite jounin at the start of the quest. Since then she's acquired the pangolin conditioning jutsu, Skywalkers, Shadow Clone, Chakdar, Rocket Boots, MARS and anything else Jiraiya taught her. That alone has hugely upgraded her combat kit. Add in that she's been FOOMing for over a year.
And she is just going to get stronger and stronger thanks to those fat FOOM gains and that she has an S-rank sealmaster getting her more tricks to add to her kit. Heck if we want to we can send her and Hazō on a road trip to snag her a scroll whenever we want.
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OK this part I don't fully agree with. He is the Sage of Six paths because he is a sage of six paths, yes, but those six referred to are the "typical" paths:
Naraka, Preta, Animal, Human, Asura, Deva
If you need more proof, Pain, who has the same powers as the Sage of six paths, has the six paths of pain with the exact same naming schema.
What IS interesting is that Pain refers to the Nagato body as the 7th pain, the "Outer Path" and it's that body which possesses the ability of the Samsara Heavenly Life technique (Samsara being the name of the cycle of reincarnation you seek to escape via enlightenment) as well as the ability to summon the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path. To sum up, in canon at least the 7th Path of the Rinnegan, the Outer Path (as in, outside of the rules of Paths) is supposed to control Life and Death itself rather than drawing from a specific Path in mythology, which is supposed to be distinct from the Naraka path of pain that has Hell related powers instead.
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I note that Shikamaru never states an intent to humanise Tobirama; he mentions that feature of the notes as an explanation for why they aren't publicly available. You omit his final line which does state his intent, as well as Snowflake's own interpretation of the gift's purpose.