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OPSEC time. On the plus side, Asuma is pretty much in the loop wrt our story. We can afford to play along with Hidan and Jashinism and he won't get upset at us because he knows that we were forced into it at scythe-point. All Asuma wants out of us is that we direct Hidan in a useful direction.

The ANBU listening in on the conversation? Less so. Asuma might have sent them away to create better OPSEC conditions for Hazou, but I wouldn't bet on it. Being in the same room as two Akatsuki is dangerous enough without cutting yourself off from the outside world. If this meeting turns violent, Asuma needs ANBU around to support him and go fetch backup. Which means if we lean into the Jashinism stuff, we're putting ourselves into a corner that Asuma has to back us out of.

Overall, not the worst. The same reason Asuma accepts our Jashinism would make sense to the ANBU when it's explained to them, so as long as we keep in that narrow zone of "playing along with Hidan while still being a true Leaf-nin at heart" we should be in the clear treason-wise.

From the other side of things, we need to continue leaning into the Jashinism to keep Hidan happy, but he probably won't be testing us much because he knows that we also need to look loyal for our Hokage who is in the very same room as us. Kakuzu, of course, doesn't care one way or the other.

So that's our general demeanor, but what about the meat of the conversation? We need to convince Hidan to track Akane down, without letting him know that it's a matter of X-risks. In this fiction, Asuma is far less invested in the outcome than Hazou is. Asuma cares deeply that such a promising Leaf-nin got attacked, but wouldn't be so concerned as to hire the Akatsuki in a desperate effort to find her.

(Note: Akatsuki isn't above this kind of mission. They've done ordinary missions as mercenaries for years before the Battle of the Gods, and tracking people down sounds like the sort of thing they might have done before. What's unusual about this, from their perspective, is that it's coming from Leaf (who Akatsuki has generally refused to work with in the past) and specifically Hazou (who has a personal connection to Hidan).)

With Asuma not able to visibly care as much as he actually does, the burden falls upon Hazou to sell the narrative. Hazou's pulling strings, calling in favours, and Asuma's going along with it because he does sympathize with Hazou's grief. That's a story we can sell, that lets Asuma press his case without revealing too much. Or rather, it's the part of Hazou's perspective that would be most productive to lean into, because it is not only true but valuable for us to have Hidan believe it.

Asuma has his own angle to press, though, and that's the potential AMITY violation intertwined with the incident. He'll want to take point in the conversation as much as he can afford to, for a variety of reasons, so we should expect him to focus on that once Hazou's established the main story and motive.

From here, as things enter into the negotiation stage, it becomes harder to predict. Will Hidan be up for the mission? Will he want something from Hazou in return, like having us dive deeper into Jashinism? But at that point the OPSEC concerns are mostly resolved one way or the other, so we can simply proceed with the goal of maximizing the odds that we find Akane and/or whoever attacked her.
There's also the consideration that Kakuzu's presence is a boon for our other uplift-related projects. We have effectively infinite money and can put off paying him like a week to get that infinite money by saying "Yeah I'll need to move my assets around, but we can arrange the payment through the tower." So, whatever we need from him -- and we should need something from him, because building a working relationship with Kakuzu can only be to our benefit -- we should do that.
 
There's also the consideration that Kakuzu's presence is a boon for our other uplift-related projects. We have effectively infinite money and can put off paying him like a week to get that infinite money by saying "Yeah I'll need to move my assets around, but we can arrange the payment through the tower." So, whatever we need from him -- and we should need something from him, because building a working relationship with Kakuzu can only be to our benefit -- we should do that.
Clarification: Is Hazou aware in-character that Kakuzu really likes money? He does have the bingo book entries on the various Akatsuki members but does he know that tidbit?
 
Fuck yeah! I've missed Hidan. Praise Jashin.

Also, Asuma apparently actually contacted him. He couldn't not realize this was reasonably likely to happen. Fairly sure this means it wasn't him who killed Akane, after all.
 
Clarification: Is Hazou aware in-character that Kakuzu really likes money? He does have the bingo book entries on the various Akatsuki members but does he know that tidbit?
"His eternal rival is Kakuzu the Elemental Summoner. He's got four different summoning scrolls—Fire, Lightning, Water and Wind—and he can use all of them at once. He's said to be the oldest ninja alive—so he's probably another of the Sage's masks—and an expert bounty hunter. If it's a choice between facing him and facing a squad of hunter-nin, any missing-nin will run to welcome the squad with open arms. I can't imagine how rich he must be, if he's that old and constantly collecting bounties."
He's an expert bounty hunter and absurdly rich, so he either likes money or he likes killin' people with bounties on their head.

Which from Hazou's POV could be either/or.
 
He's an expert bounty hunter and absurdly rich, so he either likes money or he likes killin' people with bounties on their head.

Which from Hazou's POV could be either/or.
Hmm. Does Hazou have any FP? Maybe we could do an invoke to Declare he heard it in passing or something.

Akatsuki are mercenaries. We can just ask their rates.
I still want to know so Hazou can figure out he could pitch tolled NOBURI roads/Fire country mass walling & beast extermination to the guy who loves free and easy money
 
Might still be Shikamaru that did it, though. In which case, we will have the Nara clan headed by Kei, soon enough...
Yeah, I'd wanted to sneak in a "(Shikamaru did it instead)", but I'm not so sure about that as well. @Inferno Vulpix had made a good point on Discord:
Inferno Vulpix: I also note that we saw Shikamaru grappling with horrible ethical decisions only now, during the party right before Isan got nuked, instead of when he hypothetically would have been plotting the death of his friend.
Inferno Vulpix: His recent angst looks like the first time he's truly grappling with this question, not him firming up his resolve or questioning a previous decision.
Inferno Vulpix: That scene alone imo feels like moderately compelling evidence that Shikamaru hasn't had to betray his sensibilities to such an extent before the Isan incident.
Of course, assassinating a single innocent person, even if one he personally knows, may be easier for him than five hundred people. If someone had trained themselves to be scope-sensitive, it'd be him.

Still, that's an update for me.
 
Yeah, I'd wanted to sneak in a "(Shikamaru did it instead)", but I'm not so sure about that as well. @Inferno Vulpix had made a good point on Discord:

Of course, assassinating a single innocent person, even if one he personally knows, may be easier for him than five hundred people. If someone had trained themselves to be scope-sensitive, it'd be him.

Still, that's an update for me.
Yeah I think the probability mass that it was Asuma has mostly shifted to Shikamaru for me.
 
Okay, so the real puzzle here is:

How do we maneuver the conversation such that Hidan ends up expositing to us about Jashin's nature and ideology, in a way that would not look alarming to Shikamaru afterwards, when he reads a transcript of this conversation?

... I suppose we can just not worry about it, and directly say that we noticed his alarm and decided to gather information on this entity?
 
Oh good, we can ask if he can track Akane's blood and to give us Jashin lore. Also maybe accidentally mention Isan as they had Jashin lore. Oh and see if we can hire Kakuzu for...everything.
 
Something to get us started. Buying FP in case Hidan tests Hazou in combat

[X] Pray to Jashin and He Will Deliver

Word Count: 273
  • Buy 3 FP.
  • Defer to Asuma's lead when he exercises it
  • Hidan
    • Unseal quality peppermint tea prepped for Hidan.
    • Cut to the chase.
    • Ask what he's heard about Akane, broadly fill in gaps to get to the point. Don't mention Canvass' abilities unless pressed.
      • It isn't clear if she was the intended target or if they'd ambush anyone who came by. Either way, enemy ninja potentially violated AMITY.
        • If she was targeted by missingnin, their employer could've still violated AMITY.
      • Speaking as a Leaf ninja, Hazou doesn't want a return to the status quo of war and mass destruction, and swift action from Akatsuki would show the members AMITY is serious business.
      • Speaking as Goketsu Hazou, he wants to make the ones who hurt Akane pay in blood.
    • Hidan once boasted about his ability to track blood anywhere. If Hazou provided Akane's blood, could Hidan find where she was taken?
    • If not, are they willing to help investigate and find her killers through conventional means?
      • Ask what their rates are for mission hires.
  • Kakuzu
    • While he's here, ask Kakuzu what he's heard of the road to Tanzaku Gai.
      • Declare: Hazou hired the Nara to run numbers on birth rates and economic growth from building roads all over Fire.
      • Hazou has hopes to build these roads all across Fire.
        • Not only can civilians more easily transport goods, but it will be easier to keep regions clear of beasts, boosting birth rate and productivity. Toll booths could be set up at ramps to use the roads.
        • If successful, other countries may copy Fire's roads with similar systems.
      • Leaf unfortunately lost many earth users in recent years, so progress is slow, but it seems like a project that may interest Kakuzu.
 
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Something to get us started. Buying FP in case Hidan tests Hazou in combat

[X] Pray to Jashin and He Will Deliver
Word Count: 270
  • Buy 3 FP.
  • Hidan
    • Cut to the chase.
    • Ask what he's heard about Akane, fill in any gaps.
      • It isn't clear if she was the intended target or if they'd ambush anyone who came by. Either way, enemy ninja potentially violated AMITY.
        • If she was targeted by missingnin, their employer could've still violated AMITY.
      • Speaking as a Leaf ninja, Hazou doesn't want a return to the status quo of war and mass destruction, and swift action from Akatsuki would show the members AMITY is serious business.
      • Speaking as Goketsu Hazou, he wants to make the ones who hurt Akane pay in blood.
    • Hidan once boasted about his ability to track blood anywhere. If Hazou provided Akane's blood, could Hidan find where she was taken?
    • If not, are they willing to help investigate and find her killers through conventional means?
      • Ask what their rates are for mission hires.
  • Kakuzu
    • Declare: Hazou heard Kakuzu likes money [-1 FP]
    • While he's here, ask Kakuzu what he's heard of the road to Tanzaku Gai.
      • Declare: Hazou hired the Nara to run numbers on birth rates and economic growth from building roads all over Fire.
      • Hazou has hopes to build these roads all across Fire.
        • Not only can civilians more easily transport goods, but it will be easier to keep regions clear of beasts, boosting birth rate and productivity. Toll booths could be set up at ramps to use the roads.
        • If successful, other countries may copy Fire's roads with similar systems.
      • Leaf unfortunately lost many earth users in recent years, so progress is slow, but it seems like a project that may interest Kakuzu.
Why are we declaring that? Hazou already knows it.
 
As kind of weirdly gross this feels to me, if Hidan doesn't really care about our grief we could sell him on an angle he has a nominal interest in; Akane was our partner, her being back would allow us to have children, which is something that would please Jashin, Lord of Love.
 
As kind of weirdly gross this feels to me, if Hidan doesn't really care about our grief we could sell him on an angle he has a nominal interest in; Akane was our partner, her being back would allow us to have children, which is something that would please Jashin, Lord of Love.
I mean, I think he'd like that Hazou wants to do some killin too
 
What I really like about Hidan is that, while he's undoubtedly an essie of the worst kind, he's very open and non-hypocritical about it. Forget Itachi's bullshit, even Oro has this air of "I'm justified in what I do and I deserve to be treated with respect on account of how powerful I am". Like flexing their XP totals at people actually has any meaning, or says something beyond how much XP they have.

Hidan? He's an insane psychotic murderer, and he knows it, and he owns it.
 
I mean, I think he'd like that Hazou wants to do some killin too
True. Perhaps a hypothetical maximum buy-in from Hidan would include both angles, but I don't like pseudo-pressuring Akane into kids even if she's more than likely dead. Just an errant thought I had that more experienced plan makers could weave into something less gross if it had merit.
 
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